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A lot of great responses and thought provoking comments. I really appreciate those who took the time to elaborate on why they voted the way they did. As a third (or fourth?) generation American (my great grandparents were all born here with the exception of my father's grandfather I believe) I love living in this country. But like many I know it is not a perfect country. Though I cannot think of any other I would want to live but in large part that is because I never really gave it tons of thought. My family is here and my life is here and I know there are good qualities and bad qualities about life anywhere. No one has the monopoly on perfection. If only.
I love the people here but I am sure I would also love people wherever I lived as there are good and not so good people all over this world and that is not a uniquely American quality LOL. Do I love the government here? No not at all and it has been disappointing seeing promises and hopes broken and manipulated much of my adult life regarding what the politicians promise the people. I don't know enough about other governments to be able to intelligently comment about them but would guess politics is politics all over and I value living in a democratic country with the freedom to say and do and be whom I want to without fear (mostly) of repercussions.
Yes, I completely agree machiko and find your posts to be intelligent and thoughtful and articulate. Thank you for joining the PS community. You are a welcome and lovely addition.
Like many others here I feel fortunate I was born in the USA and in general I respect our country and what we (as a people) stand for. The opportunities we enjoy here to make something of ourselves and the acceptance to be who we are (for the most part but you won't find me living in a small town probably just because I wouldn't fit in or feel as comfortable as a place where there is cultural diversity). Helping countries who need our help and in my view being a caring country (especially the people living here as opposed to just looking at the politics which can be distressing but again I cannot comment compared to other countries because I do not know enough about other countries as I have never lived anywhere else). Going back in time if it wasn't for the USA more of my relatives would be dead. Few countries offered the Jewish people living abroad a refuge, a place to go when Hitler was massacring us and so many other minorities.
Of course we have a dark past concerning this topic (and many others unfortunately) as well because it was a delayed response for political reasons of course and as a country we did not act fast enough IMO. And going back to another thread that was deleted unfortunately I would like to remark on someone's comment there that just because we take in refugees doesn't make us a great country. Umm totally disagree. We don't (I mean I know we do sadly but not as often as some other countries do) turn our backs on people in need. People who need to come here for safety reasons, people who are being persecuted just because of who/what they are. And that does make us a great country for that reason alone. Generally I believe we offer safety and refuge to those in need. I do not know the whole story and I do not know who and why we turn others away but I believe if someone needs a place because their life is in danger elsewhere (and as long as they become productive members of society and do not break laws) America offers them that opportunity and hope.
I believe living here (and other countries too I am sure but just commenting on what I know personally) one can make their dreams come true with hard work and yes a bit of luck. There is an inequality here as I think there are in all other countries to some degree. Some a larger inequality and some less so. And there is much that needs to be changed.
However even with all that I still would choose to live here time and again. Though I am not above changing my mind should my circumstances or my families circumstances change. As a PSer and a woman I reserve the right to change my mind at any time. Though I will not change my mind in saying I believe America has a lot to offer to many. And saying that does not detract from other countries. There are many wonderful countries in this world. Wouldn't it be lovely if we could all just get along and work in harmony to make the world a better and safer and happier place to live and raise future generations to be strong healthy and happy people who genuinely care about others. Don't underestimate altruism as an important driving force in this world. That is what makes people and countries great.
I love the people here but I am sure I would also love people wherever I lived as there are good and not so good people all over this world and that is not a uniquely American quality LOL. Do I love the government here? No not at all and it has been disappointing seeing promises and hopes broken and manipulated much of my adult life regarding what the politicians promise the people. I don't know enough about other governments to be able to intelligently comment about them but would guess politics is politics all over and I value living in a democratic country with the freedom to say and do and be whom I want to without fear (mostly) of repercussions.
I think there is a distinct difference between being patriotic (loving one's country) and thinking you are inherently better than everyone else (as implied by the social commentators who use American exceptionalism as a term to describe how the US is the best country in the world, which suggests that they think all other countries are bad and interior.)
Yes, I completely agree machiko and find your posts to be intelligent and thoughtful and articulate. Thank you for joining the PS community. You are a welcome and lovely addition.
Like many others here I feel fortunate I was born in the USA and in general I respect our country and what we (as a people) stand for. The opportunities we enjoy here to make something of ourselves and the acceptance to be who we are (for the most part but you won't find me living in a small town probably just because I wouldn't fit in or feel as comfortable as a place where there is cultural diversity). Helping countries who need our help and in my view being a caring country (especially the people living here as opposed to just looking at the politics which can be distressing but again I cannot comment compared to other countries because I do not know enough about other countries as I have never lived anywhere else). Going back in time if it wasn't for the USA more of my relatives would be dead. Few countries offered the Jewish people living abroad a refuge, a place to go when Hitler was massacring us and so many other minorities.
Of course we have a dark past concerning this topic (and many others unfortunately) as well because it was a delayed response for political reasons of course and as a country we did not act fast enough IMO. And going back to another thread that was deleted unfortunately I would like to remark on someone's comment there that just because we take in refugees doesn't make us a great country. Umm totally disagree. We don't (I mean I know we do sadly but not as often as some other countries do) turn our backs on people in need. People who need to come here for safety reasons, people who are being persecuted just because of who/what they are. And that does make us a great country for that reason alone. Generally I believe we offer safety and refuge to those in need. I do not know the whole story and I do not know who and why we turn others away but I believe if someone needs a place because their life is in danger elsewhere (and as long as they become productive members of society and do not break laws) America offers them that opportunity and hope.
I believe living here (and other countries too I am sure but just commenting on what I know personally) one can make their dreams come true with hard work and yes a bit of luck. There is an inequality here as I think there are in all other countries to some degree. Some a larger inequality and some less so. And there is much that needs to be changed.
However even with all that I still would choose to live here time and again. Though I am not above changing my mind should my circumstances or my families circumstances change. As a PSer and a woman I reserve the right to change my mind at any time. Though I will not change my mind in saying I believe America has a lot to offer to many. And saying that does not detract from other countries. There are many wonderful countries in this world. Wouldn't it be lovely if we could all just get along and work in harmony to make the world a better and safer and happier place to live and raise future generations to be strong healthy and happy people who genuinely care about others. Don't underestimate altruism as an important driving force in this world. That is what makes people and countries great.