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tap02150, thanks a lot for the information, you have definitively made me thing now hahahah, Im thinking whether I need to reevaluate my search constraints.

ChunkyCushionLover,also thank you for the information,the fact that one of them could not be eye clean does worry me, that would definitively be a no for me right now.


The jeweler from NY that offered me one of the original diamonds I posted sent me more options, do any of these diamonds that are under $4.5K look good?

Thanks!
Sal.

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Can't really tell much without at least a crown height and even with that it is a rough guess. Best to get an ASET image.
 
Stone-cold11, thanks I am requesting that information right now!

Thanks!
Sal.
 
Hey Sal, check out this link... the numbers of two diamonds could be exactly the same, but the light performance can''t really be determined unless you have an IS or ASET. I like viewing the ASET for princess diamonds.

Check out this link, it will help you to read ASET images. Before buying any princess cuts, i would HIGHLY recommend having an ASET picture for you to check out. That is why i prefer vendors that provide them.

http://www.highperformancediamonds.com/index.php?page=education-performance
 
tap02150,thank you for the link with the info. Based on their page the diamonds I have are not the best but they seem to be above average. Maybe im wrong?

Ellen, I really appreciate the suggestion I will contact them and see what info they can provide me about that diamond and maybe one or two more
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Thanks!!!
Sal.
 
i''d agree with that, the ASET images you have provided are not THE BEST, but above average. What was your preference again? did you want above average or the best?
 
Well, to be honest until I found this forum the ASET was not even on my radar, I had heard of the idealscope but was unaware that its not so good for non rounds. I think I would be happy with something above average. If there was a stone that happened to be the best and just slightly out of my budget I think I could scrape the extra cash
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but otherwise I would stick with the best possible within my constraints.


Thanks!
Sal.
 
Lol same here. I was like wtf is a chevron? an ASET? lol

Are you hesitant to buy online? did you like any of those White Flash diamonds Stone-Cold and I linked earlier? If you were nervous about the I color, i''d contact them and let them know what you are looking for exactly. This way, if something comes into their possesion, they could give you a call. Thats how i found my beauty with whiteflash. I told them i wanted one of their ACA''s and gave them my specifications.

1 other question: How did you feel about going under 1 ct to stay in your budget and get "the best" cut? like .8-.9?

or did you prefer a 1 ct diamond, with an above average cut?

Did you read my earlier post on the diamond size? the .8ct and the 1.03 ct you poster from JA were like, .30 mm different length and width wise.
 
tap02150, I really do not have a problem buying online as long as they have good return policies (JA and whiteflash policies for upgrades are also great), I read your post about the diff in sizes, I might go to a jewelry today to see different sizes and compare how much difference there really is, but I would like to stay close to 1ct as much as possible. If there was a considerably better stone at .97 or something around that number I would really consider going down. Thank you so much for your feedback, its really great to have so much feedback in this forum.

Thanks!
Sal.
 
no problem at all; it might be worth noting that a better cut diamond, will appear larger because it will sparkle form one end of the diamond to the other.

ALSO worth noting; when you go looking in the stores, 2 diamonds can have the same ct. weight, but can be the same size. Remember ct. weight is different from the face up size. The first two measurements, 5.15-5.20 is the length and width.

a .90 ct can actually be smaller in face size than a 1.0 ct diamond if the diamond is cut to deep and the weight is in the pavilion (noted as the depth). *Another reason to buy a superb cut diamond so that the dimensions are appropriate.

Stone-cold or anyone else, feel free to add to this if i am mistaken....

-Ted
 
I found this online:

http://www.ajediam.com/Sizes-of-Diamonds.html

If that chart is accurate then from .85 to 1ct there is really much difference at all.

Thanks!
Sal.
 
HOw do this:
http://www.whiteflash.com/princess/Princess-cut-diamond-2152679.htm#

and this one that was suggested by Stone-cold11:
http://www.whiteflash.com/aca_princess/Whiteflash-ACA-Princess-cut-diamond-2150719.htm#

Compare to the ASETs that I posted before? I thikn the one Stone-cold11 suggested from whiteflash looks much better... ideas?

Thanks!
Sal.
 
Thats for round cuts.. but thats what i have been trying to tell you lol.

I gotta go out for a bit, but i''ll be back later tonight if you find something you like, post it :D Good luck Sal.


-Ted
 
Date: 9/5/2009 1:37:07 PM
Author: tap02150
Thats for round cuts.. but thats what i have been trying to tell you lol.

-Ted
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You can click on the left side for different shapes.
 
Date: 9/5/2009 12:46:16 PM
Author: tap02150
no problem at all; it might be worth noting that a better cut diamond, will appear larger because it will sparkle form one end of the diamond to the other.

ALSO worth noting; when you go looking in the stores, 2 diamonds can have the same ct. weight, but can be the same size. Remember ct. weight is different from the face up size. The first two measurements, 5.15-5.20 is the length and width.

a .90 ct can actually be smaller in face size than a 1.0 ct diamond if the diamond is cut to deep and the weight is in the pavilion (noted as the depth). *Another reason to buy a superb cut diamond so that the dimensions are appropriate.

Stone-cold or anyone else, feel free to add to this if i am mistaken....

-Ted
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Great point, I was just going to mention this.

Sal, you really want to focus more on diameter. In looking at the last batch you posted, you have two 1.01 ct. stones, that have diameters of 5.54 vs. 5.27. See? So don''t get too hung up on the "carat mark".
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Sal, one other note, if upgrades are ever a possibility in the future. JA's policy is not near as lenient as WF and some other vendors. With JA, an upgrade purchase has to be at least twice the original amount. With WF there is no specified amount.
 
Ellen, I was actually just noticing that too, that whiteflash upgrade policy is not as strict. I think just now I am starting to realize the whole carat thing,I will focus more on cut quality and surface area. Its hard at first since carats are all we get bombarded with at first :-)

Thanks so much for the feedback!!
 
Date: 9/5/2009 2:27:25 PM
Author: chava007

Ellen, I was actually just noticing that too, that whiteflash upgrade policy is not as strict. I think just now I am starting to realize the whole carat thing,I will focus more on cut quality and surface area. Its hard at first since carats are all we get bombarded with at first :-)

Thanks so much for the feedback!!
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I totally understand. One really has to turn a LOT of their thinking around once they learn what to truly focus on. It''s a lot to absorb!

And you''re very welcome.
 
I have this diamond on hold, while they verify whether the spots on the picture are inclusions or an error because they do not show on the map. Here is the ASET :-)

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Looks good.

Good luck. :)
 
Date: 9/5/2009 11:47:10 PM
Author: chava007
I have this diamond on hold, while they verify whether the spots on the picture are inclusions or an error because they do not show on the map. Here is the ASET :-)
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Nice ASET! Also don''t worry too much about crown height, its good to know but does not tell the whole story, more important are how all the proportions work together, you don''t want to throw out a good looking stone with good images if the crown height isn''t quite as high as it could be.
 
Actually I made a mistake this is the correct ASET, the other ASET is from another diamond I was recommended... is the other one nicer?

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Well, it is different and a 2 chevron cut which you say you do not like as much as a 3 chevron cut.
 
Date: 9/6/2009 5:10:29 AM
Author: chava007
Actually I made a mistake this is the correct ASET, the other ASET is from another diamond I was recommended... is the other one nicer?
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Its a great image, also concerning the '' eyecleanliness '' of any diamond, do not assume going by images that any diamond will or will not be eyeclean, the ONLY way to know is to ask the vendor and make your expectations clear.
 
Date: 9/6/2009 5:10:29 AM
Author: chava007
Actually I made a mistake this is the correct ASET, the other ASET is from another diamond I was recommended... is the other one nicer?
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In my opinion, yes. (as far as distribution of colors) Do you have the real life photo of it?
 
Hey Sal, I like the first image much more. That is also a three chevron while the second image you posted was 2 chevrons. Good luck with your pick!

-Ted
 
Here is the pic and the specs of the stone: (not the one I have on hold (2 chevrons), but the one with the nicer ASET (3chevrons):

Report: AGS
. Shape: Whiteflash ACA Princess
. Carat: 0.820
. Depth %: 58
. Table %: 62.3
. Girdle: Thin
. Measurements: 5.14-5.12X3.76
. Light Performance: 0
. Polish: Ideal
. Symmetry: Ideal
. Culet: Pointed
. Fluorescence: Negligible


Thanks!
Sal.

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Date: 9/6/2009 7:48:05 PM
Author: chava007
Here is the pic and the specs of the stone: (not the one I have on hold (2 chevrons), but the one with the nicer ASET (3chevrons):

Report: AGS
. Shape: Whiteflash ACA Princess
. Carat: 0.820
. Depth %: 58
. Table %: 62.3
. Girdle: Thin
. Measurements: 5.14-5.12X3.76
. Light Performance: 0
. Polish: Ideal
. Symmetry: Ideal
. Culet: Pointed
. Fluorescence: Negligible


Thanks!
Sal.
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This is a beautiful Princess! I think you might have your depth and table percentages reversed?
 
Date: 9/6/2009 7:48:05 PM
Author: chava007

Here is the pic and the specs of the stone: (not the one I have on hold (2 chevrons), but the one with the nicer ASET (3chevrons):

Thanks!
Sal.
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This is a great diamond!
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