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Julie said that 3-6-9-12 is safer, because of the way that most damage occurs. But since 4 prongs are oriented in both ways, I''d hope that neither could be too dangerous. I think she was asking if you knew which one you visually prefer.

I''m just a newbie though, so does anyone know more about this?
 
Sorry, Julie, I didn''t see that last response of yours.
 
Oh, so the 3-6-9-12 is more safe? Well, it''s the one I like. I don''t really have a preference, but it seems to me, with cathedral build up on two sides, you''d get more of the petal effect if it was set up like 3-6-9-12.
 
I have heard GoodOldGold quoted as being really great to work with on here, and well, I can''t seem to figure out how to get to the actual diamond searching section. Anyone care to share how it works on that site?

Also, I happened upon Washingtondiamond.com, (I don''t even remember how now) and was wondering if they are reputable?
 
Thanks, Julie. I''ll do that.
 
Date: 3/2/2006 7:58:05 PM
Author: argh&stuff
Hey, it''s the one I like, like, love, again. And the pricescope discount is sweet!!

http://www.whiteflash.com/diamonds/diamond_Details.aspx?itemcode=AGS-6639401
If it''s eye-clean, I say go for it!
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How long do WF diamond postings usually last? I mean, I love that diamond, and I know it''s the kind that will make her smile HUGE....

but, I''m still apprehensive about going through the steps to buy online...
 
Hi, I purchased my diamond and setting from WhiteFlash and I could not give you a better review other than to say that they were amazing to work with. We looked for my ring for over a year before I found this site. I (like so many here) asked a lot of questions and was given great information. Whiteflash went out of their way to find a great stone for me. My husband was a little scared to purchase online but once he learned that it was FedExed out and that we would be able to decide if we wanted to keep it or send it back he was up for it. We had it sent to us, took it to an appraiser to confirm it was what the paperwork said it was and then decided to keep it. I sent it back to have it set and got it back a week later, more beautiful than I thought it could be. The whole process was so easy.
 
I just heard something about carbon being heated to 5000 degrees, and then it makes a diamond? Is this true? They''re supposed to be a lot cheaper, too, but made of the same things. Is it a "real" diamond?
 
Argh,
Call WF tomorrow to see if it''s eye clean. They are great to work with. They are very honest and will tell you the truth. I have bought from them as well. Sounds like you are making real progress. I can''t wait to see this ring. She''s a lucky girl!!!
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Date: 3/2/2006 9:12:10 PM
Author: argh&stuff
I just heard something about carbon being heated to 5000 degrees, and then it makes a diamond? Is this true? They''re supposed to be a lot cheaper, too, but made of the same things. Is it a ''real'' diamond?

You mean a Cubic Zirconium? Physically it''s a real diamond, but it''s man made.
 
Or is this carbon heated to 5000 degrees something like a "moissanite" stone?
 
Well dang! I was just thinking, heck, if I can find a manmade one that''s "real" then I''ll go that way. But if CZ is "real" for manmade, that just won''t work.

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Lots of great advice about the diamond...

Retunring to the setting part... it looks like the ''tulip'' head + a skinny cathedral shank are the winners - waiting to be put together.

Both components reside hapily on Wink''s list, in the form of a die-struck 2-2.5mm shank (if it comes 2.5mm... it can be polished thinner, the other way around it doesn''t work) and there is a tulip ring nearby, so the heads should be right there waiting too.

Well finished and polished, the sum total should look pretty darn good. Perhaps the height of the head can also be adjusted upon assembly, since you liked the lower profile of the Niwaka ring.


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If you wonder what a 40 pts diamond looks like in on of these tulip heads, here''s one


 
Date: 3/2/2006 9:12:10 PM
Author: argh&stuff
I just heard something about carbon being heated to 5000 degrees, and then it makes a diamond? Is this true? They''re supposed to be a lot cheaper, too, but made of the same things. Is it a ''real'' diamond?


There are companies that make "cultured" diamonds, which like other created gemstones (sapphire, ect) are "real" just not natural. Unfortunately it doesn''t seem any one makes (well, at least no one sells) white created diamonds, only coloured.

A cubic zirconia is not a created diamond, it has different chemical and physical properties. CZs are simulated diamonds, they just look like them, no relation
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Date: 3/2/2006 9:16:15 PM
Author: sunkist


Date: 3/2/2006 9:12:10 PM
Author: argh&stuff
I just heard something about carbon being heated to 5000 degrees, and then it makes a diamond? Is this true? They're supposed to be a lot cheaper, too, but made of the same things. Is it a 'real' diamond?

You mean a Cubic Zirconium? Physically it's a real diamond, but it's man made.

Nope. It isn't heating and neither CZ nor Moisanite have the same composition as diamonds. Actually - these three have nothing in common as minerals. What they do share are close RI (refraction indices) which is the physical property that determine brightness in the cut stones. But the look is more than brightness alone: Moissanite is doubly refractive (i.e. facets appear doubled through the table) and tinted green, CZ has allot more fire (dispersion) than diamond. Also, none of the simulants have the surface lustre of diamond. Being softer, wear gives them away. Pictures are cool, but can't show much of what makes these guys non-diamond looking anymore than they show diamonds well (i.e. not too well - dispersion dies out, so does very light although visible shades of color)

CZ is also allot heavier per unit of volume... but it isn't like one is going to feel the weight difference on 1 carat or so.


Anyway, synthetic diamonds would be of the same structure, and, of course looks and properties as the real thing. They can and have been made. The technology involved quite a bit more than heating, to the point that it is (for now) too expensive to use for futile applications like jewelry
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Colorless synthetic diamonds are not available for sale... they are not being produced in quantity. Colored... there seem to be a few floating around, at about the same price as colorless diamonds.

The problem? I don't think these synthetics can be discussed here... The rules of the forum prohibit synthetics. There are other corners of the NET for that.
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Anyway, given that these things are nowhere less expensive than the natural colorless diamonds already discussed... 'guess the option is irrelevant.

And I wouldn't do CZ without actually telling the girl. If she can't tell (or wouldn't want to)... someone else may tell her. And that's not cool at all.

It may be that she would agree to this. Or you could end up with a sapphire or some other colored thing instead (for those synthetics exist and are relatively inexpensive to boot). But... Hell, this stretches forum policy enough.
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Date: 3/2/2006 9:39:49 PM
Author: valeria101
Lots of great advice about the diamond...

Retunring to the setting part... it looks like the ''tulip'' head + a skinny cathedral shank are the winners - waiting to be put together.

Both components reside hapily on Wink''s list, in the form of a die-struck 2-2.5mm shank (if it comes 2.5mm... it can be polished thinner, the other way around it doesn''t work) and there is a tulip ring nearby, so the heads should be right there waiting too.

Well finished and polished, the sum total should look pretty darn good. Perhaps the height of the head can also be adjusted upon assembly, since you liked the lower profile of the Niwaka ring.


wrsh197_t.jpg



If you wonder what a 40 pts diamond looks like in on of these tulip heads, here''s one




That looks fabulous! I''m not a huge fan of the tulip but I think that''s the best looking one I''ve seen yet! Argh...check on Wink''s selection of diamonds. I just bought something from him and he''s spectacular to work with :)
 
Date: 3/2/2006 10:58:40 PM
Author: Small


That looks fabulous! I''m not a huge fan of the tulip but I think that''s the best looking one I''ve seen yet! Argh...check on Wink''s selection of diamonds. I just bought something from him and he''s spectacular to work with :)
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couldn''t help trying to put the pieces together - at least on paper (so to speak).

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Date: 3/2/2006 11:12:50 PM
Author: valeria101

Date: 3/2/2006 10:58:40 PM
Author: Small


That looks fabulous! I''m not a huge fan of the tulip but I think that''s the best looking one I''ve seen yet! Argh...check on Wink''s selection of diamonds. I just bought something from him and he''s spectacular to work with :)
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couldn''t help trying to put the pieces together - at least on paper (so to speak).
Well you did a great job...looks wonderful! Makes me almost wish you would have posted that before I chose the platinum cathedral for my stone. But I know the cathedral will look awesome so no worries. But ARGH...pay attention...that looks great!
 
Ana, any way you could put together the shank with the two cathedral wings bypassing each other (like near the end of page 2.)
 
Yeah, that''s SO nice looking. Thanks for "building it" for me. :)

It''s finally the weekend (I live for them, as it''s my time with my girl...) and I popped online while she''s immersed in a mystery show on TV.

Thanks for the help, all of you! I''ll keep you up to date, as things progress.

(I was sent an email of some "packages" from washington diamond.. will post soon.
 
Well, the weekend went well. It usually does.

However, my girl has found out my workings on Pricescope. I guess I''m not such a good sneak after all.

So, we are looking at Whiteflash for ideas for the tulip ring....

Sadly, we didn''t find any available in the stores for her to try on.
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She''d really been wanting to have it on, to see how low it sat, etc...

Anyway, she likes the .42 diamond posted in a previous post on here... emailed Whiteflash, they say it''s eye clean, so that''s good to know.

I still think the niwaka setting looks to be the best as far as holding the diamond down closer to the band. But their prices are ridiculous and we don''t want platinum.

White flash quote 700 something for the ring portion, but that was with side diamonds and we want a single solitaire only. So maybe they''ll have a better offer soon! Here''s hopin....

Thank you all again for the help.
 
Oh no! How did she find out?? Did she also find anything that you/we wrote about possible proposal ideas??

As a sidenote, I realized that I need to be a little bit more careful with what I post too. My BF found a post with how I thought he might propose, so it looks a mountain top proposal at sunset might be out... (He wants the proposal to be a surprise, and probably realizes that driving to a mountain near sunset would be a give-away.)

One bonus for you though is that you know that she''ll love the ring.
 
Well, I never told her I posted, she just found out I''d been learning about diamonds, and since I''m not a fast thinker when I''m on the spot, I had to cough up that Pricescope taught me things.

It happened like this: She''d mentioned a few days after I "found" the tulip setting, that she''d just found a picture of one online, and liked it a lot... So, this weekend, we went to see if we could find one for her to try on (to see if the diamond would sit low enough for her or not...) and while we were there this salesperson tried his smooth talking lines and all that, so I asked him questions about the diamond in the solitaire he''d been trying to hype up, and he didn''t know the answer to the depth of the stone, whether or not the stone had been treated in any way, or if it was certified.

She asked how I knew those things (very IMPRESSED, by the way... thanks all!!!!), and I didn''t know what to say other than Pricescope had a lot of information on diamonds, and I''d taken some time to learn more about them, so I''d hold less of a chance of being scammed.

She was SO thrilled, and it was hard not to show her the .42 diamond at whiteflash (which far outshined the diamond that bafooon was trying to sell for a ridiculous price). So, I showed her. I know it''s just a picture, but she LOVED it...

And so, the wheels started turning, and now she''s trying VERY hard to convince me to get it, and to do the setting I want, "as long as it has a tulip head or a cathedral, or both." (That means, I think, that she wants both, but still wants me to think I''m holding the cards. Yeah ooookay...)
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I hope to goodness she doesn''t snoop around and "find" me here... She''s pretty busy with a project for work right now, so that may occupy her time. I''m gonna hate having to think up all new ideas for asking her to be mine for life...
 
Date: 3/6/2006 6:09:26 PM
Author: argh&stuff
Well, I never told her I posted, she just found out I''d been learning about diamonds, and since I''m not a fast thinker when I''m on the spot, I had to cough up that Pricescope taught me things.

It happened like this: She''d mentioned a few days after I ''found'' the tulip setting, that she''d just found a picture of one online, and liked it a lot... So, this weekend, we went to see if we could find one for her to try on (to see if the diamond would sit low enough for her or not...) and while we were there this salesperson tried his smooth talking lines and all that, so I asked him questions about the diamond in the solitaire he''d been trying to hype up, and he didn''t know the answer to the depth of the stone, whether or not the stone had been treated in any way, or if it was certified.

She asked how I knew those things (very IMPRESSED, by the way... thanks all!!!!), and I didn''t know what to say other than Pricescope had a lot of information on diamonds, and I''d taken some time to learn more about them, so I''d hold less of a chance of being scammed.

She was SO thrilled, and it was hard not to show her the .42 diamond at whiteflash (which far outshined the diamond that bafooon was trying to sell for a ridiculous price). So, I showed her. I know it''s just a picture, but she LOVED it...

And so, the wheels started turning, and now she''s trying VERY hard to convince me to get it, and to do the setting I want, ''as long as it has a tulip head or a cathedral, or both.'' (That means, I think, that she wants both, but still wants me to think I''m holding the cards. Yeah ooookay...)
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I hope to goodness she doesn''t snoop around and ''find'' me here... She''s pretty busy with a project for work right now, so that may occupy her time. I''m gonna hate having to think up all new ideas for asking her to be mine for life...
Just giggling to myself picturing this whole exchange. Get her the .42 from WF. She will LOVE it. Way to go on impressing her, BTW. Lots of (not most, not all) guys wouldn''t try that hard. You''re a peach.

shay
 
Yeah, Shay, she was really impressed. I love it when I get the, "Wow! How''d you know THAT?" look... it''s sweet.

The woman my girl''s been talking to from Whiteflash says that particular diamond may not be available for long; I don''t have enough money to buy things right this second now.

Other great diamonds full of fire will come along, right?
 
What about a credit card?
You can ask them about financing too.
I am really confused as you went through all this and you still are not able to buy?
 
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