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This has a decent depth, no? What do these MO things mean?

It''s listed at 613.35, so I''m using this for you all to teach me what''s wrong with it. :)

DIAMOND DETAILS


Stock number: 27924844
Shape: Round
Cut Grade: Ideal
Carat weight: 0.47
Color: E
Clarity: I2

Depth %: 61.8
Table %: 54
Symmetry: Very Good
Polish: Good
Girdle: ME-
Culet: NO
Fluorescence: NO
Measurements: 4.99x5.04x3.10
 
Argh:

The Niwaka tulip setting posted above by Diamond_Quester is really stunning. It''s much softer and more delicate looking than the Stuller tulip-head, and it looks as though it would really complement a 1/2 ct. stone ... I sense that your GF is somewhat delicate ... is the Nikawa (or a similar custom setting) something you might consider for your GF???

ALSO, if you hang around PriceScope long enough you will see that many of us who post here started out just like you - skeptical about making such a substantial purchase sight unseen over the Internet. In the final analysis, however, none of us (myself included) have any regrets - you can''t beat the selection, quality, pricing or service of the e-vendors recommended on this forum. Many of the diamond vendors provide much more information than most B&M jewelers, and the return policies can''t be beat. While there are no guarantees as to value, in nearly each instance I''ve read about on PriceScope, the diamond and/or ring purchased from an e-vendor recommended on this site appraised for way more than the actual purchase price. More importantly, the diamonds purchased from e-vendors tend to outperform those that are available at local jewelers ...

While it is certainly possible to find a beautiful diamond at a great price in a local B&M jewelry store, I''ve read of more horror stories which involve in-person purchases than I have of internet diamond purchases. Given your limited budget, I really feel you would do much better buying your diamond (and possibly your setting) with one of the e-vendors recommended on this forum.

Best of luck to you, and let us know what you decide!


 
Sorry, I meant ME on the girdle. I''m suspecting the I2 is a bad clarity? I''ve never heard of an I without an S before it.

How am I doing at figuring out why it''s less expensive?
 
I was just admiring the Niwaka setting. I like how it seems to sit the diamond down a bit lower. And the cathedral portion of it just seems like something she''d like.

I called the local jewelist lady during lunch today; she said the ring (see earlier post) we''d looked at before had a wide enough opening to hold a tulip head, and that she thought it''d look fine. So, if all else fails, I have that. :)

I have begun to really consider getting a "standard" band to hold the tulip, though. With a cathedral, too, I think. (She''s partial to that, I''ve found.) But, I figure it''d be doubly better to have a ring that represents her favorite flower, and to have a band with little tiny diamonds scattered around it. That would also leave me with the option of purchasing them separate, whereas I''ve been told when you get an interlocking set, you ought to buy them together.

Still, she really likes the idea of interlocking bands. I don''t know. I think the tulip paired with a band like described would be wonderful for my girl.
 
You are doing soooo good! Be proud of yourself :)
Yes, I clarity is something you want to stay away from. I believe someone on here found a great I clarity diamond but that is few and far between. With I clarity (imperfect) you most certainly see the inclusions.
You are on the right tract and have these amazing people here who are helping you. I''ve learned so much and am making my own purchase now. Keep listening to everyone''s advice and looking at all the threads. You''ll get the hang of what is a great stone and what''s not. Some of the stones that have been posted here already look really good. You''ll find what you are looking for in no time!
 
Stock number: 28129873
Shape: Round
Cut Grade: Premium
Carat weight: 0.49
Color: I
Clarity: SI2

Depth %: 61
Table %: 60
Symmetry: Good
Polish: Good
Girdle: TN-M
Culet: N
Fluorescence: M
Measurements: 5.08x5.15x3.12


*What does "premium" cut mean?

This is listed at 849.66
 
I saw that diamond on abizias and it is an EGL certification. I would stay away from that on a I Si2 diamond, as they are more lenient with grading.

premium means nothing, btw. it is just a catch phrase for a jeweler.
 
So, EGL is bad, too?

Dang, there are so many "bad" things to remember!
 
Date: 2/28/2006 6:07:54 PM
Author: pinkflamingo
I saw that diamond on abizias and it is an EGL certification. I would stay away from that on a I Si2 diamond, as they are more lenient with grading.


premium means nothing, btw. it is just a catch phrase for a jeweler.
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Yeah, if the symmetry and polish are only ''good'', then premium cut means about as much as ''premium'' coffee at a gas station in the middle of the desert!
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F Si1

I am no expert, but what do you guys think of this one? worth looking into further? it looks a little out of round, but the diameter is good.
 
This may have been posted already, but bare with me. I "found" it on my own.

Item Code: AGS-6639401
Price: $745.00
Report: AGS
Shape: Round Ideal Cut
Carat: 0.420
Color: H
Clarity: SI1
Depth: 61.7
Table: 55.6
Crown Angle: 34.7
Crown %: 15.6
Pavilion Angle: 40.8
Pavilion %: 43
Girdle: Thin to Medium Faceted
Polish: Excellent
Symmetry: Excellent
Culet: Pointed
Fluorescence: Negligible
Measurements: 4.81-4.84X2.97


*What does cutlet mean?

And, also, what does the Idealscope do? Looks like a kaliedscope to me... Interesting, but I don''t have a clue what I''m looking for...
 
idealscope shows light leakage.. it should be dark red and black, any lighter red or grey or white areas show where light is leaking out. It helps show which diamonds are cut the best and throw back the most light to the eye; sparkles!
 
what about this one?

Item Code: GIA-13836885
Price: $730.00
Report: GIA
Shape: Round Ideal Cut
Carat: 0.41
Color: H
Clarity: SI1
Depth: 61.6
Table: 55
Crown Angle: 35
Crown %: 15.6
Pavilion Angle: 41.1
Pavilion %: 43.5
Girdle: Thin to Medium-Faceted
Polish: Excellent
Symmetry: Very Good
Culet: None
Fluorescence: No
Measurements: 4.79-4.82X2.96
 
So, of the two I posted so far, which "leaks" the least?
 
If the picture posted is the "real" picture, I think the 745 carries nice sparkle. I can see her admiring that when she''s bored at work. :)
 
Ebree,

More initials? Ah... You''re killin me here! :)

What does 2.8 mean?
 
I read that you said that you are nervous about purchasing a diamond online when you will not be able to see it. This is not the case however. Many online vendors (really, the best of them) will send a diamond you are interested in to an independent appraiser in your area for you to inspect and get an appraisal on before you decide to purchase. You are not obligated to buy.
 
Maybe this is me being a guy, but I really want to find a "good" one on my own. Do I want a cutlet that''s pointed, or do I want none at all?

I''m glad I love this girl, otherwise, I''d be fully frustrated by now. :)
 
HCA is Holloway Cut Adviser. You can find it if you go to "Tools" at the top and click on "Cut Adviser." When you have the table, depth, crown, and pavilion numbers, you can enter them into the HCA. A score below 2 allows you to eliminate poor performers. For a ring, I like to stick with around 1 and above.

I would go with the stone Ebree posted if I were you.
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A "pointed" culet is the same as no culet.
 
Date: 2/28/2006 6:26:40 PM
Author: argh&stuff
If the picture posted is the ''real'' picture, I think the 745 carries nice sparkle. I can see her admiring that when she''s bored at work. :)
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Yes, that pic is real. If it is a sample, it will be clearly marked as such. That diamond is killer. Woohoo. She won''t just admire that at work. She will admire it while driving. Be afraid, be very afraid.
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shay
 
I read that you said that you are nervous about purchasing a diamond online when you will not be able to see it. This is not the case however. Many online vendors (really, the best of them) will send a diamond you are interested in to an independent appraiser in your area for you to inspect and get an appraisal on before you decide to purchase. You are not obligated to buy.

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REALLY? Now, that''s something I would definitely be interested in. How would I go about inquiring about that? Has anyone done that? Do they charge extra for that to be done? That would make me feel SO much better about the process... Because honestly, I''m thinking I''d be a lot more likely to just go to the local jewelist lady (she really is a nice woman, always willing to answer my incessant questions) and ask her to plop down the ones she has as close to my price range, then just compare them. She said she could get about 8 in for my inspection. But, the one that really made my girl''s jaw drop was about 1000 alone, and I just can''t do that. Again, I have to be responsible here. I know sparkle is what really "gets" her, and I also know I don''t want to go as low as 1/3 carat, but that size really doesn''t matter all that much to her (thank my precious God!!).
 
Okay, what?

I''m lost.

How do I find out the HCA number for the one that''s listed at 745?
 
Both of the following images are examples of good IdealScope images. The first has white areas in key places that give contrast. The second has more of a colorful scintillation.

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The 745 gets a HCA of 1.4. Is that good?

The idealscope on it has some "white" areas, but is it really bad?
 
Date: 2/28/2006 6:47:37 PM
Author: argh&stuff
The 745 gets a HCA of 1.4. Is that good?

The idealscope on it has some ''white'' areas, but is it really bad?
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1.4 on the HCA is excellent.

The idealscope on that one is quite good overall, with maybe just an area of leakage in that grey area on the left towards the middle. The small white areas near the edge are fine--they show contrast. If you feel comfortable buying this one, go for it.
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However, I''d call Whiteflash up and ask them if it is eye-clean.
 
Okay, I just realized I''ve posted several times in the past hour, and should probably slow down. So, I''m going to take a break and have some dinner, and try to learn more about these silly initials that keep coming up. Dinner... canned soup again. (Going on three weeks now; I figured it''s a good way to save up just a little more money for this special gift.)

I''ll be pretending it''s steak....
 
Date: 2/28/2006 6:47:37 PM
Author: argh&stuff
The 745 gets a HCA of 1.4. Is that good?


The idealscope on it has some 'white' areas, but is it really bad?
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VERY VERY Good! Do you have a link for that one? maybe you posted it already but I didn't see it.

Actually some white bits around the edges is good because it provides symmetric visual contrast and makes the flashes of white and colored light stand out more. While light is lost, our eyes read more sparkle. cool, huh?


ETA: Ah there it is, expert selection on WF. Cool, I'd go for it! And I'm sure WF can make you a tulip setting or get one from stuller.
 
Item Code: AGS-6639609
Price: $795.00
Report: AGS
Shape: Round Ideal Cut
Carat: 0.410
Color: E
Clarity: SI1
Depth: 60.8
Table: 55.3
Crown Angle: 34.9
Crown %: 15.6
Pavilion Angle: 40.8
Pavilion %: 43
Girdle: Thin to Medium-Faceted
Polish: Excellent
Symmetry: Excellent
Culet: Pointed
Fluorescence: Medium Blue
Measurements: 4.84-4.87X2.95


**This one has flourescence. Is that bad?

Doh! I have been reading tons of threads talking about flour... I was thinking as in bleaching... flour that you bake with is white. They really meant flourescence. Well, that solves that inquiry I was about to make regarding why people flour diamonds.


I''m going to check the HCA, although I don''t really understand what it does, either. :) I do think it''s hilarious that it has a section called "older people rings" and "younger people." Too funny!
 
Well, it''s a 1.4, too. Good. I guess. The other one is less expensive, and they''re both the same size and all that other stuff, too. Basically.
 
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