24 y/o Man needs help picking ROCK! Pics

[ProspectorGeo]

What the commitment to put it on hold? I do like it! I will look into things now

 

[arkieb1]

Now phone them and put the darn thing on hold.

 

[Gypsy]

These are both cast in something cheap, but I was told I could have it in my gold, easy.

I'd say it's thin. However, maybe I should do away with some of the prongs if I am going for a .5 ct

Another update...

she doesn't want the ring to be to "pushy"

clueless here

No. It's prongtastic and set high. Plus its awkward.

Have them get something close to this: http://www.stuller.com/products/121855/3233131/?groupId=110433


If they are looking for a casting catalog style, try this one: http://www.adwar.com/products/styles/20763L/view or this one: http://www.adwar.com/products/styles/25896L/view This is a casting company, the setting is the right size for the stone I posted for you. And the style is what she wants.

 

[Niel]

How about this:
http://www.b2cjewels.com/dd-4311997-0.76-carat-Round-diamond-J-color-SI1-clarity.aspx It's VERY affordable. Looks perfectly clean.

1733.21 is the price. So... that's really good!!

It's EXTREMELY well cut. And with the yellow gold, the J color will be just fine.


I would advise you to get this one. It's a really good deal. And it's a 6mm size stone.


Please put this on hold and trust me.

nice call.



OP, i don't love that setting either, the basket odd to me

I looked at there sight, if they could thin the band out a little, this setting is pretty. i don't know if they made this ring or not though

https://thejewelersguild.com/colored-stone-rings/sapphires/green-sapphire-antique-filigree-ring-one.html

 

[Gypsy]

What the commitment to put it on hold? I do like it! I will look into things now

GOOD!

No commitment to hold.

ETA: ASK IF IT IS EYECLEAN! (fingers crossed)

 

[arkieb1]

I like the second Adwar one Gypsy posted that your jeweller can get and make with your own gold - that is my definition of thin and elegant!!!!

 

[ProspectorGeo]

its on hold

 

[Gypsy]

That one is my first choice (76 point stone). BUT if it is not eyeclean, then this one would work too : http://www.b2cjewels.com/dd-4739652-0.71-carat-Round-diamond-J-color-VS1-clarity.aspx

 

[Niel]

I like the second Adwar one Gypsy posted that your jeweller can get and make with your own gold - that is my definition of thin and elegant!!!!

i didn't know thats how it works for companies. That is the best option.

 

[ProspectorGeo]

Im going to grab some fast food real quick...my tummy craves junk after slaving away looking at diamonds and trying to make sense of math I will never understand! Be back in a few! I am so thankful for all the help you guys have been!

 

[Serendipity99]

Prospector,

First of all, congratulations and good luck!! I am no expert on diamonds but I wanted to share a thought with you on the setting.

I get that you came into this with the ideal situation being that you use your gold for the setting etc. etc. and it is super cool that you are using gold that you were able to "mine" yourself. That said, you also say you are in a rush and you seem to have lots of other choices (and stress!) to handle right now without attempting a custom setting design right away. Have you seen the posts from other members who are doing custom settings? It can take awhile because there can be so many little changes and adjustments, even with seemingly simple settings.

My suggestion would be to take a deep breath and listen to Gypsy and the rest of the experts here guiding you to the various beautiful rounds. Then choose a setting that matches what your girlfriend likes. If you choose the stone Gypsy most recently suggested, you will be just $83 over budget if you do this setting:

http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/engagement-rings/solitaire/tapered-tiffany-style-half-round-18k-yellow-gold-5540y18

The reason I suggest that one is that it tapers towards the stone, which more closely aligns with the setting I think she likes than this one would, for instance:

http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/engagement-rings/solitaire/four-prong-solitaire-14k-white-gold-5342w14 (still beautiful and less, so worth considering).

I would use the gold you have for the wedding band instead.

Here are my reasons - first, the medical field is evolving and it is likely she may not be able to wear a ring with a stone anyway (as other posters have stated) so if you do it as the wedding band, that is the one she always wears. Second, if you decide to upgrade her engagement ring down the road, it is likely that she still wears the same wedding ring and.. again, it is the gold you found so many years ago at that point.

(edited to get the links to work.. whoops!)

 

[lovemybling]

I just wanted to second using your gold for a wedding band. I have been married for 20 years I have changed my "ering" several times but I ALWAYS were a band. Mots women I know NEVER take off the wedding band but have taken off e-ring for jobs or once they had their first kid. There is just something about the pointy prongs and new baby bums that you seem to want to avoid as a new mom.

That being said I remember when William and Kate got married a few years ago they made a big deal about how her wedding band was made from special welsh gold that had been give to the Queen's father in the early 1900 and all the wedding band since have used that special gold.

Really consider using your special gold for her wedding band.

Good Luck!!

 

[Gypsy]

It's your decision to use the gold anyway you want.

But I agree about the wedding band. I've changed my engagement ring setting several times. But my wedding band is well...sacred. Nothing else can take it's place.

I know I didn't understand it before I actually went through the wedding, and our vows and the ring on the actual day. But there is nothing that can take the place of my wedding band. It is the one piece of my jewelry I am most tied to and that I cannot ever replace.

I think it would be lovely for you guys to come up with a design together and use your gold for custom bands.


And since you are shopping at B2C for the band... I wouldn't go for a BGD setting. There's no real point.

This is what I think you should get:
http://www.stuller.com/products/121855/3233131/?groupId=110433 B2C can order it for your stone. And it will be VERY affordable
Alternately
http://www.b2cjewels.com/Traditional-Solitaire-Settings/Embracing-Solitaire-Diamond-Ring-14K-Yellow-Gold%281.7-mm%29-6432-1.aspx
Or
http://www.b2cjewels.com/Traditional-Solitaire-Settings/Cathedral-Solitaire-Diamond-Engagement-Ring-14K-Yellow-Gold-%282.0mm%29-6457-1.aspx

And then you can do custom wedding bands with your gold (it would be cool if you had enough for both your bands. Both with gold from the same source!) together.

I think that would be pretty awesome.

 

[ProspectorGeo]

Heard back from B2C

I've heard back from the "gemologist" (salesperson? lol) at B2C. Here's part of his email. What do you all think?
Thanks again Gypsy- even if you don't like this stone anymore haha....I think its still a candidate but I want everyone's opinion.

If you are new to the thread, evaluate this stone considering my priorities:
ExExEx
As close to eye clean as I can afford
Carat Size
As little yellow as possible...
BUDGET DIAMOND- less than 2k

I am willing to dive into J's if its a good range to stretch my budget for a larger stone without jeopardizing Ex,Ex,Ex, and clarity.


"...As per our conversation earlier, I did have our gemologist look at stock# 4311997 to find out how the diamond performs. He stated, that this diamond has a very slight brown tinge which is common for diamonds in the I or J color range. This tinge is however not noticeable to the naked eye. This means you would only notice the color difference if you compare the diamond live right next to a D or E colored diamond. The diamond is therefore definitely good in terms of color.

Also, this diamond has 3 white and 1 black inclusion as noticed under 20x magnification. These inclusions are not visible to the naked eye and therefore the diamond is 100% eyeclean.

Please look into this and let me know your thoughts...."

 

[ProspectorGeo]

Two more worth considering, smaller size though

 

[Niel]

reasons I like the h one you just posted.

I like fatter arrows, and the arrows would be fatter on the half ct h than the half ct I

It has a smaller table. That equates to more fire, so I like the smaller table.

Things to question : is it eye clean.

 

[ProspectorGeo]

So you would pick the smaller .5 ct one as opposed to the larger .76 J stone

 

[Niel]

So you would pick the smaller .5 ct one as opposed to the larger .76 J stone

Not necessarily. Are they both eye clean? Can you get a pic of both? What are both prices? What size is. Normal in your area? Half ct or a ct?

 

[Gypsy]

So you would pick the smaller .5 ct one as opposed to the larger .76 J stone

No. I'd take the larger J. It's eyeclean and good to go. I don't understand what the issue is.

 

[Gypsy]

I'd buy the 76 point stone in a heartbeat, and really believe that's what you should do. I like B2C. They have been a good company on here.

But if you want options:

try these two if eyeclean (cal land ask) and put on hold (no obligation, no cost) and get an idealscope image (will take 3 days): http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut/0.77-carat-j-color-si1-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-311864
http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut/0.73-carat-j-color-si1-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-311816

 

[ProspectorGeo]

I'm not sure I understand all of this...

But, before I call up and purchase, can you please help explaining these? These are from the J .76 ct stone. Are these good?

 

[Gypsy]

Yes, they are very good.

The colorful one is an ASET; http://www.highperformancediamonds.com/index.php?page=education-performance

The red with the Black Arrows is the Idealscope: https://www.pricescope.com/wiki/diamonds/firescope-idealscope

The two red and white ones are the hearts image and the arrows image. https://www.pricescope.com/wiki/diamonds/hearts-and-arrows-diamonds

The two that matter most are the ASET and the Idealscope because those are the performance tools (must have). The hearts and arrows are the precision tool (like to have, but can easily skip).

 

[ProspectorGeo]

To quote the link you provided:

"In general RED should be maximized. Some BLUE is necessary. Too much GREEN is undesirable. The distribution of the three colors is important. WHITE should be minimized."

I'm not sure I would come to the same conclusion that the ASET is good? Seems to have a lot of blue and green with little red...I am inexperienced though...

 

[Gypsy]

That's just the photography difference you are seeing.

There is a TON of red in that image. And only green and blue where you want it. Anything pink/orange is really red with that photo set up.

Also the idealscope is really the one that matters with rounds.

 

[Gypsy]

I suspect it's the green center that's got you confused. If you really want to read up on it to understand here you go:
[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/aset-with-green-center.170949/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/aset-with-green-center.170949/[/URL] the green center: "it simply means the pavilion angle is under 40.7 "
[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/optimal-agsl-light-performance-map-question-area-above-culet.148354/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/optimal-agsl-light-performance-map-question-area-above-culet.148354/[/URL]

 

[Gypsy]

Here this will help.

With another photo set up, this is what your stone would look like: See lots of red. That photo set up is just bleaching the colors strangely.

 

[Gypsy]

Or similar to this: (see how much difference a photo set up can make):

 

[OoohShiny]

Awesome links and info for the ASET and Idealscope, thank you

 

[TristanC]

Just wanted to say hello Gypsy! It has been so long and I've forgotten how patient the experts here are and how long you have been helping on PS

Makes my heart happy to know people on this forum are getting some of the help that they are.

To the OP, congrats and good luck. Don't ever feel bad about saying no to a sales person, and don't forget that people without ANY vested interest are frequently the best sources for fair and genuine helping information.