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Why is James Allen is hiding/deleting GIA Certificate numbers?

Discussion in 'RockyTalky' started by lamouse, Feb 18, 2019.

Is it okay to buy a diamond without the GIA number?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  1. distracts
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    by distracts » Aug 11, 2019
    I would have no problem with JA not sharing the reports/report numbers IF they shared the proportions from the report - depth, table, angles, etc. that way you could still run rounds through the HCA and whatnot.

    ETA: also the inclusion chart. I was looking at a diamond the other day where I couldn’t tell if it was one inclusion reflecting or multiple inclusions - and since I was not seriously shopping and think they limit how many things you can ask them to send you, didn’t ask for the report and thus had no way of knowing.
     
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  2. Garry H (Cut Nut)
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    by Garry H (Cut Nut) » Aug 12, 2019
    Sledge, and all, did you notice that we now have regained all the listings of James Allen on PriceScope, including images when they are available.
    All the stones have HCA and HCA LL results available.
    Yes, the cert numbers are not there to stop Rare Carat and others using the information to redirect sales to lazy sneaky cheapskates and bait and switchers. But does anyone seriously think JA would cheat and switch certs and stones?
     
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  3. Garry H (Cut Nut)
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    by Garry H (Cut Nut) » Aug 12, 2019
    @Karina Tarkjhanian just find the stone here on Pricescope and you will get free HCA score and how big the stone looks for it's carat weight like this one:
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    Click the Coloured HCA score and you will get results like this:
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    Click anywhere alse and it will take you to JA's site and you can check the Hearts photos and the ideal-scope for arrows symmetry plus leakage etc.
    Post the info on this forum and get free and expert help from all here.
    But keep it on hold because if it is a keeper someone else may jump in and buy it.

    Then if you want further gemo info call, get a copy of the cert and send it here and there and please rest assured, JA will not swap the stone. I promise.
     
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  4. distracts
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    by distracts » Aug 13, 2019
    Garry - thanks for the info, I rarely use PS search so I had not noticed that.
     
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  5. Garry H (Cut Nut)
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    by Garry H (Cut Nut) » Aug 13, 2019
    May I ask why you do not use the search Distracts?
     
  6. distracts
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    by distracts » Aug 13, 2019
    Because I spend most of my time in the colored stones forum and generally chime in over in RT about settings and fancy shapes! I have not personally bought any diamonds, preferring colored stones. I think several years ago when I helped out more with diamonds I used the search more (I took a break from PS to save up money for some bigger colored stone purchases... so you can guess why I'm back :twisted:), but I most enjoy helping out with fancies and it's easiest with those to go straight to the vendors who have videos up.

    And when I assisted my brother buying a diamond engagement ring, we went straight to the vendors based on what we thought the requirements were: first looked at Diamonds by Lauren when we thought his fiancee wanted a pink diamond (it turns out she didn't, even though all her inspiration pictures were pink diamonds) and then went straight to looking at GOG and Whiteflash since we had narrowed it down to an ideal round in a Vatche setting and knew those stores carried Vatche, and he chose GOG based solely on the fact that they answered the phone when he was ready to buy.

    But the main reason is just that the parts of PS and stone searching I enjoy most either are colored stones and not on the search, or fancy shapes and harder to narrow down with the search because so many of the results are diamonds without video.

    I suspect I'm an unusual user in that regard!
     
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