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Who has the best super ideal RCB diamond prices online?

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Whiteflash seems much pricer than James Allen?

Who has the best super ideal Round Cut Brillant pricing online?
 
James Allen doesn’t speciaize in super ideals, I wouldn’t always consider their True Hearts to be super ideal.

Whiteflash actually has a pretty competitive pricing amongst the popular super ideal vendors (WF, BGD, CBI, VC). Furthermore, their upgrade policy is much more generous than JAs and their offer a one year buy back. Those are all added benefits that of course come at a cost.
 
You’re never gonna get a bargain on a super ideal. I searched high and low, and realized that ultimately, you’re paying for the quality...thus, no deals to be had, unfortunately.

I’d say that Whiteflash is the most competitively priced out of the super ideal vendors.
 
JA is not a super ideal vendor. WF, BGD, HPD/CBI, VC always come to mind when I think super ideal H&A. WF is usually the most competitive in their pricing.
 
Just want to reiterate that JA isn't a super-ideal vendor. So if you want super-ideal, look elsewhere. BGD has a super ideal line, WF has the a cut above (ACA) super ideal line, crafted by infinity is the line from High performance diamonds, and victor canera also has super ideals.
 
JA does not cut their own diamonds. They just buy them from around the world. China. RUssia. India. And probably many other countries.

The following vendors have their own proprietary cut of the MRB diamond. They also have propriety cuts of other cuts as well. Victor and August Vintage cut European cut rounds as well.

WF
BGD
CBI
Victor Canera
GOG

Get it? If you go to each website and read about the business, you will get a better understanding of each vendor. The only way you will score a “deal” with these stones is if you get them pre-loved. Not too many come on the market because of the many reasons provided in your other thread. If you want to jump on these keep checking on the pre-loved forum and one may pop up. However you are pretty limited as to specs as you will need to go with what becomes available.
 
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Are you sure you want a super ideal? Here are plenty of pretty stones that aren’t super ideal. I’m not at all disparaging them. If I bought a MRB I would get a super ideal. But if you haven’t compared them in real life and you don’t see he difference for yourself maybe you won’t care. You know. If you’ve never had it, you won’t know what you’re missing anyway. I’m just asking because you seem to be having an issue getting over the premium that comes with super ideals and the very advantageous upgrade and return policy that comes with these vendors. If budget is an issue and you don’t feel a need for the flexibility of a good/great upgrade program, I would suggest you post your requirements and allow PSers help you find a nice stone.
 
WF is probably the most competitively priced (as super ideals go- they don't really fluctuate much in price as it is anyway) and has a large inventory. Having said that, BGD does run 'specials' now and then (look out for their upcoming black friday offers), which MAY make a comparable super ideal very slightly lower priced... though the price difference is fairly minimal. WF's upgrade policy is better than BGD though...
 
JA might not be a super ideal vendor per se, but I think you can find a few super ideals on their site. They do carry some AGS 000 with angles in the PSers preferred specs with perfect looking H&A images; however, the certificate number is (usually? I have never seen one with) not engraved on the girdle, and it is virtual inventory.
 
Others correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe we’ve been seeing JA’s true hearts collection going for more than WF recently.

Regardless, for a super ideal at the best price point, it’s WF all the way.
 
You are not going to find a super ideal with a bargain basement price tag. There is truth in numbers and too many are telling you the same thing. Trust me that those of us on this forum know that to be a fact from experience. If you appreciate the attributes of a super ideal cut stone, then you have to pay for it. I, for one, did it with Whiteflash and have never regretted the decision. However, everyone's criteria for choosing a diamond can be very different. You use the word 'value' and I'm not sure you can quantify that in terms of a diamond. They are luxuries from jump and the more particular you are about performance the more you will pay. I don't look at my diamond as being a good value but rather a thing of beauty that brings me pleasure that I happily forked over money to own. It really is just that simple.
 
Even an AGS0 grade, while it will be beautifully cut, doesn’t make it “super ideal”. So look for AGS0 on JA or blue nile, or better yet, at Whiteflash’s PS and ES lines.
 
Not Tiffany
 
AprilBaby said:
Not Tiffany
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Haha yeah PS has spoiled me from ever buying Tiffany.
That being said, there is “value” in branded pieces when it comes to resale market so I’m told
 
I get the feeling that you will not be happy with your purchase unless you feel like you got an amazing deal which makes me feel a little sad. The way I look at jewelry, it is an sentimental purchase that brings pleasure to both the giver and receiver and price is only one consideration in making a decision.
 
Yes it seems that the deal is most important in the transaction.
 
I appreciate the chasing of the deal because that is what I do. I’m tight with my money. I scrutinize every freaking purchase I make because that is how I am. (I grew up in a super unstable household financially and I’m sure it comes from that— I never want to go through that again, no matter how unrealistic).

However, with superideals, they are totally worth the price point. So I will spend money on them.

With my Blue Nile upgraded earrings, I wound up finding a pair that are basically “super ideal specs” but are not super ideal. Of course, through pricescope and learning about super ideals, I leaned I like small tables (55/56) and cut for fire. And they are earrings, so I am not scrutinizing them all day long. I did not pay super ideal prices for them— in fact, I would say I got a deal on them. The price was right.

Aside from that (and by the way, I have never compared my studs with my super ideals because mentally I don’t want to introduce anything screwy into my thinking lol o_O— you know how we are) I go for super ideals now and I pay the premium.

So I can see how it’s a jump for a thrifty person to want the gorgeousness of a super ideal, but want to find a deal on it too. Heck, I’m going through this right now with Cartier tank watches lol.

But now that I own two super ideals, I would now just call a super ideal company and order one up and pay what I need to pay. Done. I have also learned to appreciate how easy it is to do that— no analysis paralysis. Pick one in your price range and specs and you are now done and have IMO the best your money can buy.

But, as I said, I will always appreciate the thrifty person who wants to find the deal .
 
kmoro said:
JA might not be a super ideal vendor per se, but I think you can find a few super ideals on their site. They do carry some AGS 000 with angles in the PSers preferred specs with perfect looking H&A images; however, the certificate number is (usually? I have never seen one with) not engraved on the girdle, and it is virtual inventory.
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Superideals do, although quite rarely, make it into the open market. They might show up at BlueNile, JamesAllen or any other vendor. A very patient soul could select for AGS0 stones and try to find that rare one that has an inscription from an actual super-ideal vendor. If you narrow that very small pool to those within a specific color and clarity range, you make the probability even lower. But, if you have time (months to years) and patience, maybe you can find one.

JA does not otherwise sell super-ideals. The TH line is a selected line within their selected tolerances. There have been some well-cut stones, but as many we can't recommend. They are also often near or equal to the price of WF super-ideal.

Tiffany, Cartier and Harry Winston stones can be found on the secondary market (not super-ideals anyway), but you have to be very very careful to avoid fakes. Nothing super-ideal , but the settings are often desirable due to branding.
 
OP’s threads are reminding me of the threads that lucida posted up last year about her search for an “investment” grade diamond that will hold value...
 
Thanks everyone for the great info. Pretty amazing and responsive community here.

I’ve decided on a purchase and process that I believe has exceptional value and one that I’m comfortable spending my money on. Plus, it’s exactly what she wants so I know she’ll love it.

Happy holidays and thank you again!
 
MissGotRocks said:
You are not going to find a super ideal with a bargain basement price tag. There is truth in numbers and too many are telling you the same thing. Trust me that those of us on this forum know that to be a fact from experience. If you appreciate the attributes of a super ideal cut stone, then you have to pay for it. I, for one, did it with Whiteflash and have never regretted the decision.
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Yup, No Filet Mignon for hamburger price. ;(
 
So are you going to tell us what it is?
 
The deciding factor:
retail market price = x
price paid by OP = y

Maximum value = maximizing x-y
for a somewhat branded piece (eg. Tiffany, super ideal vendor)

I predict the OP will be happy with his purchase.
 
bmfang said:
OP’s threads are reminding me of the threads that lucida posted up last year about her search for an “investment” grade diamond that will hold value...
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