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Whiteflash Stone..running out of time...Input?

ShinySearcher

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Finally decided online may be best bet. I have spent so much time researching that Im running out of time to pull everything together before the big day and would love your input on this whiteflash stone (link below, details below, and plot pic below).

For WF to bring in stone and get idealscope, etc I need to make payment and I just want to be pretty certain before doing that because i dont have time to have money tied up. I am currently awaiting local stone to come back from GIA for Re-cert (original was 2006) but its an Si2 with feather that kind if goes into table which concerns me.

http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3024613.htm#

1.15 CT GIA Ex/Ex/Ex (6.70-6.71 x 4.18)
G color (hoping for F)
SI1 (See pic twinning whisp, needle, feather)
HCA 1.4 (X,X,X,VG)
Girdle 3.5
No Fluor
54 table (Seems smalll?)
62.4 Depth
34.5 Crown
40.8 Pav



plot_1.jpg
 
I think you're missing a great opportunity to take advantage of what WF and most of the PS vendors specialize in. Their in-house diamonds. Pretty much any vendor can call in the stone you're looking at, possibly for even cheaper than what WF would charge. I suggest taking a look at their ACA/ES stones, especially if you're running out of time. There's always the chance that when WF does the imaging, it may not be the best performer, which just means you've wasted time and effort, while there are ideal cut diamonds with the imaging already in their possession.

There may be a trade-off with size, but I bet an ACA will outsparkle that virtual stone
 
si1 with twinning whisp as the grade setter with additional wisps not shown are about 50/50 problematic in my opinion.
1/2 will have at least slight issues under close inspection.
With a si2 its higher than that.

I don't get what you mean by you hoping F?
Its official grade is a G according to GIA.
Hoping that GIA miss-graded it and its an F is not a good bet.
It happens but it is not common.
 
To answer the other questions, 54 table is fine and the gia numbers look promising.
The GIA numbers are not all that accurate, they are averaged then badly rounded so no definite conclusions can be drawn.
 
Karl_K|1385157570|3561443 said:
si1 with twinning whisp as the grade setter with additional wisps not shown are about 50/50 problematic in my opinion.
1/2 will have at least slight issues under close inspection.
With a si2 its higher than that.

I don't get what you mean by you hoping F?
Its official grade is a G according to GIA.
Hoping that GIA miss-graded it and its an F is not a good bet.
It happens but it is not common.
I think he meant he was originally looking for an F
 
Thank you for reviewing. Yes I meant I was originally looking at F's. I can see where that didnt make sense. The price jump for the in-house stones in fairly significant. I was originally looking at the .95-.99 CT range in F-Si1/VS2 GIA XXX but then realized that the setting we choose it much more suited for a larger 1.2-1.5 CT stone.

The sample or "model" ring we originally saw held a 1.25 and since its a wide ring with alot going on I checked it out with .95 vs 1.2 and the 1.2 was much better looking. The smaller stone kind of got "lost" in the ring because there is alot of channel set small stones around the whole thing.

So in going up to 1.1-1.2 size I started to drop clarity from VS2 to Si1 and possibly even Si2, which worries me. I also am now going for G minimum versus F-E. my budget for stone is around 7500 max, and so I am trying to find best option.

I have a local store that is selling me the ring currently re-certifying (via GIA because original cert was from 2006 which worried me) a 1.2 CT, E, SI2, HCA 1.8 (VG, VG, VG, X). The plot although not best picture is attached is you would like to comment?

I basically is clean other then a grade setting SI2 feather that does slightly go into table area. Its pretty much eyeclean unless you are looking at the exact perfect angle. From the bottom the feather looks worse but I dont think that would ever be visible with it set. My concern is the feather and also I have heard that once an SI2 gets dirty the clarity characteristics start to be more noticeable?

Thank you for your inputs.
michaels_1.jpg
 
Most diamonds that get dirty lose their brilliance. Seeing the VG VG VG on the older report doesn't bode well even for the arrival of the new report.
 
silvar-surfer|1385166995|3561516 said:
Most diamonds that get dirty lose their brilliance. Seeing the VG VG VG on the older report doesn't bode well even for the arrival of the new report.

Hi, Sorry I should have said its a GIA Excellent Cut, Excellent Symm, Very Good Polish and the (VG, VG VG, Ex) you are seeing is actually the Holloway Cut Advisor (HCA) score which was 1.8 overall. Does that change anything?

I was told that if I cant get a triple Excellent ad had to go Very Good in one area, polish was the best sacrifice area?
 
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