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What do you guys think of this diamond? {1.9 HCA score}

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TheRabidDiamond

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Hi everyone,

I'm on the cusp of purchasing this diamond, i have it currently reserved. I requested the idealscope images but i won't get them in-time, as by the time i get them, the diamond will already have been released back into the market.

1.29 Carat, H color, VVS2, AGS000 (True hearts ideal), Length/Width Ratio of ~1.009:1.

It scored a 1.9 HCA score, and the price was right in my budget at $9,700.

Also it'll be going into a 6 prong, 14K rose gold solitaire setting.

Link:
https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...olor-vvs2-clarity-true-hearts-cut-sku-5775885

Thank you so much!
 
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Could go lower on clarity, but JA doesn't have other options unless you go down in size and they will not be H&A. This will be a good stone, it is an AGS 000. ASET on the report looks fine.
 
True Hearts stones should be very good in terms of cut symmetry and accuracy. VVS will definitely be eye-clean and H will show only a hint of a tint from the side (tint not being a bad thing, just personal taste). High crown should increase coloured fire and HCA <2 indicates crown and pavilion angle should work well together.

Should be a good stone, then, so if it meets your colour/clarity/carat/cost requirements (and you've checked the other Pricescope-recommended vendors as well) you're good to go, I would say :)
 
Thanks so much for the quick replies! I feel much more confident now, it's one of the biggest purchases I've made!
 
yup, looks good! Especially if you've looked around at other options and are still wanting this one. It will be a good performer!
 
Not too bad. Slightly high crown angle at 35.1, but it doesn’t appear to have impacted on light performance according to the report’s ASET.
 
Do post pictures of the finished item and handshots if you would be happy to do so! :))

(Don't forget to check the other Pricescope-recommended vendors for alternative options, just in case!)
 
Congrats!
 
Where is the pic of the hearts?
 
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This is the idealscope i got from James Allen, what do you think? Based on the specs and photos, do you think it's close a super ideal? If not, what else should i be looking for that this diamond doesn't have?

I've requested for the hearts photo as well, since i haven't seen them myself, but haven't gotten it yet.

Thanks for your help!!
 
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Any opinions on this? Thanks!
 
TheRabidDiamond said:
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This is the idealscope i got from James Allen, what do you think? Based on the specs and photos, do you think it's close a super ideal? If not, what else should i be looking for that this diamond doesn't have?

I've requested for the hearts photo as well, since i haven't seen them myself, but haven't gotten it yet.

Thanks for your help!!
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Depends on your definition of super ideal and close. According to NiceIce, these are super ideal proportions:

Total Depth between 59 – 61.8% (only effects the diameter of the stone)
Table Diameter between 53 – 57% (least critical factor)
Crown Angle between 34.3 – 34.8 degrees
Pavilion Angle between 40.6 – 40.9 degrees
Girdle: prefer 0.7% thin up to 1.8% medium, faceted
Culet: GIA none or AGS pointed (same thing, different terms)
Polish: GIA Excellent / AGS Ideal (the highest from each lab)
Symmetry: GIA Excellent / AGS Ideal (the highest from each lab)

Based on that the CA, depth, and table are outside the above parameters. Will you actually be able to tell the difference with the naked eye? Not sure about that and it may be more of a mind clean issue.
 
Ahh ok, thanks for the replies. Does the ideal scope look good? The middle looks a little lighter, is that something to be concerned about?

Once I get it, just for peace of mind, I might take it to a brick and mortar store to see if I can tell the difference between this diamond and a super ideal.
 
You could pick up a rock in the parking lot on your way in & that would fire under b&m lighting. It's best to compare in natural lighting.
The diamond you showed will be awesome, there's just a mind clean best of the best cut mentality once you start reading these threads.
Search some threads on ideal scope & what it says about varying shades of colors & leakage if you're worried. But I'm sure once you see the diamond in person you'll love it.
 
TheRabidDiamond said:
Ahh ok, thanks for the replies. Does the ideal scope look good? The middle looks a little lighter, is that something to be concerned about?

Once I get it, just for peace of mind, I might take it to a brick and mortar store to see if I can tell the difference between this diamond and a super ideal.
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Will you be able to find a superideal in a b and m store anyway? I think the stone you have here is lovely. It doesn’t fit superideal proportions, if you compare it to a Whiteflash ACA, for example (their proportions are on the website), the crown angle and depth are slightly out. If you want one of those you might need to drop clarity or size as pointed out above, although I can’t see the price of your stone to compare. Your stone is an AGS 0 which means it’s been tested for light performance and should be a good choice. It sounds like you might want the “mind clean” aspect of having a superideal, though??
 
I think the lighting on the IS image is too bright - the HCA of 1.9 means that the crown and pavilion angles should be working together!

Getting it and assessing it in person in a variety of different lights, including against local stones, is a good plan :)
 
I think the scope looks fine. As an AGS000 with Ideal light return, I think you're in good shape. If you dont think its doing what it should
when you get it you can always return it (but I dont think you need/want to).
 
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I think the lighting on the IS image is too bright - the HCA of 1.9 means that the crown and pavilion angles should be working together!

Getting it and assessing it in person in a variety of different lights, including against local stones, is a good plan :)
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HCA is most useful for GIA stones and their very broad definition of excellent cut. AGS cut score of 0 ensures you're getting one of the top performing cuts out there.

Agreed the back lighting looks a little bright. No worries on this stone. To the OP, your plan of trying it on different light environments is a great idea, but I do believe you will be pleased with this stone.
 
Stay out of B&M stores, unless you have a hearts on fire retailer or AGS member retailer nearby. First, “normal” jewelers will claim that their stones are better (without any proof) and second they’ll tell you that anything you bought online (meaning not from them) is a piece of crap.

They do this to plane seeds of doubt and hopefully make a sale of their subpar wares.

Your stone is AGS 0. That is 99% better than anything sold on normal B&M and most online places (outside of pricescope, of course).

I can’t wait to see it. How are you setting it?
 
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