What are your thoughts on how government is handling COVID-19

[Dancing Fire]

And I just gotta say, with all the "likes" you get from me, I clearly have no problems with your behavior!

I haven't received 1 like on political threads from any liberal PSers...

 

[BMI]

@Dancing Fire Looks like you'll be eating out sooner than you thought!

Sacramento, Solano counties allowed to expand Stage 2 reopening

Sacramento and Solano counties have been approved to move further into Stage 2 reopening, officials said Wednesday.

www.kcra.com

 

[Dancing Fire]

@Dancing Fire Looks like you'll be eating out sooner than you thought!

Sacramento, Solano counties allowed to expand Stage 2 reopening

Sacramento and Solano counties have been approved to move further into Stage 2 reopening, officials said Wednesday.

www.kcra.com

Time for Dim Sum!... but most restaurants may not be ready to reopen by this weekend.

 

[Demon]

I haven't received 1 like on political threads from any liberal PSers...

Really? I'm shocked!

 

[Queenie60]

Really? I'm shocked!

 

[NonieMarie]

From our liberal Governor.... . He will try to keep businesses closed for as long as he can, b/c of his liberal ideologies many of these small businesses in Ca. will close up shop forever...

California Gov. Newsom: Federal Government Has Responsibility To Help States Recover

California led the nation in issuing a statewide stay-at-home order. And it's paying an economic price: a $54 billion deficit. As the state reopens, it seeks to balance the economy and public health.

www.npr.org

What??? Did you read the article? That is nothing like what he said. He is my governor and I think he has done a great job. You repeatedly use the word liberal as a disparaging remark. Why?

 

[Dancing Fire]

What??? Did you read the article? That is nothing like what he said. He is my governor and I think he has done a great job. You repeatedly use the word liberal as a disparaging remark. Why?

Why?? b/c he wanna give free money to illegal immigrants and then ask the Feds to bail him out of 54 billion deficit...

 

[Tekate]

Do you understand the word fabrication? like in fabricated facts? maybe you have alternate facts? that's it.. alternative universe.

Texas LOVES illegal immigrants. We LOVE LOVE THEM.

You know what I want? I want all my tax money that I pay back because it goes to red states! that's what I want.

Most Federally Dependent States are below, see the pattern, if not I'll explain it to you. Ya know I think all the states that Clinton won should all cut taxes a LOT before asking for federal assistance. Yup.

Rank (1 = Most Dependent)	State	Total Score	‘State Residents’ Dependency’ Rank	‘State Government’s Dependency’ Rank
1	New Mexico	82.21	1	6 (Clinton)
2	Mississippi	79.41	5	4 (Trump)
3	West Virginia	70.70	4	9 (Trump)
4	Montana	70.70	14	1 (Trump)
5	Kentucky	69.78	6	8 (Trump)
6	Alaska	67.92	7	7 (Trump)
7	Arizona	65.61	12	5 (Trump)
8	Indiana	62.77	9	10 (Trump)
9	Alabama	61.56	8	14 (Trump)
10	South Carolina	61.31	3	30 (Trump)
11	Wyoming	58.92	23	2 (Trump)
12	Louisiana	54.20	30	3 (Trump)
13	North Dakota	53.11	2	44 (Trump)
14	Maine	47.40	15	19 (Clinton and Trump)
15	Tennessee	46.90	21	11 (Trump)
16	Pennsylvania	46.43	17	16 (Trump)
17	Missouri	44.47	24	12 (Trump)
18	Maryland	41.82	13	31 (Clinton)
19	Oklahoma	41.42	19	21 (Trump)
20	Vermont	40.45	18	24 (Clinton
21	Arkansas	39.26	40	13 (Trump)
22	South Dakota	38.59	25	17 (Trump)
23	Georgia	35.21	32	18 (Trump)
24	Oregon	34.45	26	26 (Clinton)
25	New York	33.89	46	15 (Clinton)
26	Michigan	33.52	29	23 (Trump)
27	Idaho	33.39	20	33 (Clinton)
28	Florida	33.26	27	27 (Trump)
29	New Hampshire	32.67	35	22 (Clinton)
30	Rhode Island	31.49	37	25 (Clinton)
31	Nevada	31.37	36	29 (Trump)
32	Ohio	30.38	45	20 (Trump)
33	Wisconsin	30.22	16	45 (Trump)
34	Texas	30.15	42	28 (Trump)
35	North Carolina	27.95	31	35 (Trump)
36	Colorado	25.66	39	36 (Clinton)
37	Connecticut	25.31	22	43 (Clinton)
38	Iowa	25.30	34	37 (Trump)
39	California	24.97	43	34 (Trump)
40	Nebraska	24.78	44	32 (Trump)
41	Hawaii	24.65	10	50 (Clinton)
42	Washington	24.18	38	38 (Clinton)
43	Virginia	23.73	11	49 (Clinton)
44	Minnesota	19.75	28	46 (Clinton)
45	Massachusetts	19.16	47	39 (Clinton)
46	Illinois	18.40	48	41 (Clinton)
47	New Jersey	17.55	49	40 (Clinton)
48	Delaware	15.42	50	42 (Clinton)
49	Utah	15.23	33	47 (Trump)
50	Kansas	11.84	41	48 (Trump)

Why?? b/c he wanna give free money to illegal immigrants and then ask the Feds to bail him out of 54 billion deficit...

 

[Slickk]

What do you all think about this? It makes me uneasy as I have family in FL who think they are invincible and in the clear. Seems the Covid19 reporting is lacking in some states, but they are reporting many more pneumonia deaths than usual... hmmm. Trying to keep their states open by fudging the numbers?

 

[Tekate]

I think many states are under-reporting, now that we are opening up - my state - has the most cases ever. I think fudging is the game in these red states personally.

What do you all think about this? It makes me uneasy as I have family in FL who think they are invincible and in the clear. Seems the Covid19 reporting is lacking in some states, but they are reporting many more pneumonia deaths than usual... hmmm. Trying to keep their states open by fudging the numbers?

 

[OboeGal]

Yes, I've been seeing in the medical and research subreddits about COVID-19 that there is quite a bit of evidence of under-reporting and fudging.

 

[Dancing Fire]

I think many states are under-reporting, now that we are opening up - my state - has the most cases ever. I think fudging is the game in these red states personally.

So is better to over report?

Washington state over-reporting COVID-19 deaths - Freedom Foundation

Washington state's reported COVID-19 death total is inflated by as much as 13 percent due to state’s practice of counting every person who tests positive for COVID-19 and subsequently dies, even if the death was not caused by COVID-19.

www.freedomfoundation.com

Colorado Changes The Way Coronavirus Deaths Are Reported To The Public

Questions about the way Colorado is reporting COVID-19 deaths has caused the state health department to change its practices.

www.cpr.org

 

[voce]

My Canadian future MIL is genuinely worried for me because they follow the news and think it's safer for me in Canada. I think that speaks volumes about the lack of confidence people have for what American government is doing.

 

[MakingTheGrade]

Ugh. I can’t imagine how his friends and family must feel reading this tweet from their president while their loved one is in serious condition at the hospital.




Here’s the video of the incident and an article explaining the background

Trump suggests without evidence 75-year-old man shoved to the ground by Buffalo police was a "set up"

Mr. Trump was referencing a report from One America News Network, which cited a conservative blog.

www.cbsnews.com

 

[Tekate]

Sure, and I have a bridge for Trump to buy.. vote blue.

Ugh. I can’t imagine how his friends and family must feel reading this tweet from their president while their loved one is in serious condition at the hospital.




Here’s the video of the incident and an article explaining the background

Trump suggests without evidence 75-year-old man shoved to the ground by Buffalo police was a "set up"

Mr. Trump was referencing a report from One America News Network, which cited a conservative blog.

www.cbsnews.com

 

[Calliecake]

Reporter April Ryan tweeted the following today:

Stephen Miller, who crafted @realDonaldTrump immigration policy at the southern border, including separating families and caging children, is preparing @WhiteHouse speech on race relations. @aurnonline #AURN report.

 

[House Cat]

Trump is having a rally in Tulsa next week. He is making everyone attending sign a letter releasing liability if anyone gets the virus.

 

[Demon]

Its no wonder NC wouldn't commit to the GOP convention. Here's a partial look at today's numbers.

 

[Dancing Fire]

Strange, The left wasn't too concern about the virus spreading during the Floyd protest but concern about spreading during a Trump rally??..

 

[Queenie60]

Strange, The left wasn't too concern about the virus spreading during the Floyd protest but concern about spreading during a Trump rally??..

Don't you know? The protesters are exercising social justice; therefore, Covid is taking a "time out". One sided, I must say.

 

[BMI]

@Demon
Just an FYI that my husband pointed out to me a while back and I thought you might find helpful. If you click on the arrow in the column heading for New Cases it will reorder the entire graph in either ascending or descending order for that column. I use this feature all the time now when I am looking at the different statistics.

 

[the_mother_thing]

Don't you know? The protesters are exercising social justice; therefore, Covid is taking a "time out". One sided, I must say.

Yup! "Good for me, not for thee" says NC Gov. Cooper, seen here ‘demonstrating’ leadership for a photo op while marching with protesters, and at the same time blowing off the RNC, continuing to deny his state’s citizens the ability to return to work, and permitting the arrest of business owners who dared re-open to put food on their table.

 

[MakingTheGrade]

Yeah... indoor unmasked rally is not the same risk profile as outside masked protests... I’m curious if trump will mandate masks inside the venue. They are boasting 300k tickets sold or something inane like that (venue capacity is 20k).

I have been active in my city’s BLM protests. Our hospital in fact had a #whitecoatsforblacklives protest event where we all knelt, 6 feet apart, in masks, in an outdoor field. We as healthcare workers were all aware of covid risk, none of us thought it was taking a “time out”, and we mitigated the risk as we could since masks+outdoors+distance is very very low transmission risk.

Even in the larger protests I went to where people couldnt maintain 6 ft distance, they still maintained as much distance as they could and everyone wore masks, even the kids!! Of course not all protests and protesters take precautions, but many certainly do.

Equating a movement to end systemic racism and the murder of black Americans to a partisan political rally is not even apples to oranges in my book, it’s like apples to airplanes.

Here’s the last protest march I went to:


Here’s what the BOK center looks like in Tulsa where the rally will be hosted with apparently al seats sold. It’s a sports and concert venue.

 

[OreoRosies86]

Trump supporters don’t care if he does anything to unite the country during times of disease and protest. They don’t care if anything he does benefits them. They just love that he attacks the same people they don’t like. The protestors, the scientists... *yawn*

 

[the_mother_thing]

Annnnnnnd the usual, intolerant anti-Trump whining continues, perpetuating their "good for me, not for thee" mentality by cheering on these protests during COVID, yet the same gang harshly criticized the thousands of peaceful citizens exercising their first amendment rights with their anti-lockdown protests during COVID ... where - as a reminder - no people/businesses/property was harmed or damaged ... but yea ... ‘Orange Man Bad’.

 

[Calliecake]

It was on every news station how concerned both sides were regarding the spread of Covid during the protests. If you watched protests you would see the protestors were wearing masks.

If you are comparing the BLM protests to a Trump rally, @MakingTheGrade said it best, it’s comparing apples to airplanes. How one can fail to see the difference is astounding.

 

[the_mother_thing]

SOME protestors wore masks ... where they were supposedly ‘mandated’ ... definitely not all, definitely not distancing ... definitely LOTS of shouting/spewing droplets ... lots of physical contact with strangers ...






Meanwhile, I have yet to read where anyone has said masks were banned and/or no one would be allowed to wear a mask at a Trump rally or convention if they choose to do so.

 

[Demon]

It was on every news station how concerned both sides were regarding the spread of Covid during the protests. If you watched protests you would see the protestors were wearing masks.

If you are comparing the BLM protests to a Trump rally, @MakingTheGrade said it best, it’s comparing apples to airplanes. How one can fail to see the difference is astounding.

Yep. I saw almost everyone masked during the FLoyd protests. Rallies and open the state protests? Not so much.

 

[Demon]

@Demon
Just an FYI that my husband pointed out to me a while back and I thought you might find helpful. If you click on the arrow in the column heading for New Cases it will reorder the entire graph in either ascending or descending order for that column. I use this feature all the time now when I am looking at the different statistics.

Thanks, that's handy. Though I go back and forth between wanting to see which state has had the most total, and which state has the most new cases.

 

[OreoRosies86]

I think it’s absolutely hilarious that he’s having rally attendees sign a waiver that says they won’t sue him if they catch covid. Why would that even be a problem if masks and social distancing are the problem in this big ol’ freedom stealing hoax