I am getting so many Ruby vibes from this thread. It's uncanny. Almost as if she were still here with us!
"Don't worry... I'll always be with you... no really, I'll never leave."I am getting so many Ruby vibes from this thread. It's uncanny. Almost as if she were still here with us!
Maybe because in the 1990's the issue became prominent on the global stage, the 2002 Boston Globe expose, and subsequent public exposure of the issue and most importantly, the Catholic religious machine admitting there was abuse and coverup. And still, male and female victims alike were not believed. Some parents didn't believe their children. Females who reported were often treated differently than males who reported (no surprise there). Quite a few victims understandably lost faith in god and their church and ceased attending. There is a very different psychology at work when children are abused by "men of god". This is an old but still relevant article https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/...use-male-compared-female-victimization-impactI had a very interesting discussion today about why, when men came forward after being abused by priests 30 to 40 years ago, NO ONE questioned their stories.
And I would concede that your bolded statement is also correct. Attitudes, tolerances, etc. for 30+ years ago (even 5 years ago) were vastly different than they are today (please don’t read that to mean I think these crimes were ‘acceptable’ then; I’m don’t). That’s part of the challenge with these types of cases, along with what was legal then may not be legal today, and/or vice versa. It’s VERY complicated. And NONE of our individual analysis & back-and-forth bantering will help solve matters unless we can collectively - as people (not victims, men or women) - come up with strategies that make the process for reporting & investigating such crimes compassionate to victims and fair to all in accordance with the constitutional rights.
No one can repair & erase the past, but I do believe there can be a process created by which victims can confidentially report crimes, evidence confidentially & compassionately gathered, and the accused tried fairly. But it definitely won’t happen when some people remain close-minded to all sides of the ‘debate’ except their own, and it surely won’t happen running around demanding every man have his pecker cut off for breathing. And it definitely won’t happen with the yahoos in DC having pissing contests for the sake of votes.
Me too. He is dotard.You.Got.What.You.Wanted.I.Thought.You'd.Be.Satisfied
I literally just punched my screen.
You.Got.What.You.Wanted.I.Thought.You'd.Be.Satisfied.
I literally just punched my screen.
Sooooo, just to clarify, are you suggesting by this comment that Ford's testimony is tainted (as Santorum suggested this morning by alluding to her as a pawn) and as the gop prosecutor attempted to do when she asked Ford who gave her advice about which law firms to approach?Feinstein should be proud for having recommended them to Ford.
Sooooo, just to clarify, are you suggesting by this comment that Ford's testimony is tainted (as Santorum suggested this morning by alluding to her as a pawn) and as the gop prosecutor attempted to do when she asked Ford who gave her advice about which law firms to approach?
Sooooo, just to clarify, are you suggesting by this comment that Ford's testimony is tainted (as Santorum suggested this morning by alluding to her as a pawn) and as the gop prosecutor attempted to do when she asked Ford who gave her advice about which law firms to approach?
I am at work but have been listening to the entire testimony and I don't have time for typing long thoughts right now.Sooooo, just to clarify, are you suggesting by this comment that Ford's testimony is tainted (as Santorum suggested this morning by alluding to her as a pawn) and as the gop prosecutor attempted to do when she asked Ford who gave her advice about which law firms to approach?
Funny what people choose to focus on in regards to Ford's testimony....