Trump Threatens Protesters At Tulsa Rally He Plans

[AGBF]

President Trump has issued a threat to anyone who protests at the rally he plans to hold in Tulsa.

"Mr. Trump on Friday morning issued a thinly veiled threat to people who want to protest his campaign rally, scheduled for Saturday evening. 'Any protesters, anarchists, agitators, looters or lowlifes who are going to Oklahoma please understand, you will not be treated like you have been in New York, Seattle, or Minneapolis,' Mr. Trump wrote on Twitter. 'It will be a much different scene!'
Mr. Trump drew no distinction between peaceful protesters, whose right to assemble and speak out is protected by the First Amendment, and violent looters, some of whom were responsible for vandalism and fires that broke out during mass protests across the country where tens of thousands of people took to the streets to express outrage over the killing of George Floyd"

Court Allows Trump’s Tulsa Rally to Go Ahead (Published 2020)

The ruling is the latest twist in the lead-up to a campaign rally that has become a flash point, as the country grapples with the coronavirus crisis and intensifying calls for racial justice.

www.nytimes.com

 

[Matata]

He's such a good little fascist.

 

[doberman]

He's already done this at other rallies. There have been a number of stories of people who have been manhandled at his events. All he needs is some torches to set the scene. His minions can put on brown shirts.

 

[ItsMainelyYou]

Wants another massacre, does he?

 

[OreoRosies86]

He’s so tough and brave (on Twitter)

 

[Matata]

I'm uneasy and queasy about the Tulsa rally. Agent Orange (Spike Lee's name for him which I think is apt) has already signaled to his supporters that the protesters are enemies. It has the potential to turn violent.

 

[AGBF]

Yes. It is a set up. He is going into the home of the people of Tulsa and now will blame them when they become enflamed. He is bringing in "the outside agitators". I saw man who came for the rally interviewed. He had come from Arkansas with his dog because he had promised himself if Trump was ever close enough he would go to one of his rallies. He wa wearing a "Don't Tread on Me" T-shirt.He was not wearing a mask in a place where covid19 is running rampant.

I'm uneasy and queasy about the Tulsa rally. Agent Orange (Spike Lee's name for him which I think is apt) has already signaled to his supporters that the protesters are enemies. It ha s the potential to turn violent.

 

[missy]

Tulsa braces for Trump's 'wild evening' amid unrest and coronavirus fears

Donald Trump threatens protesters and ‘lowlifes’ as mass rally draws outrage and campaign confirms six staffers tested positive for Covid-19

www.theguardian.com

"The indoor rally, at Tulsa’s 19,000-person capacity BOK Center, comes as the city and the state of Oklahoma experience a surge in Covid-19 cases and local public health officials urge the campaign to reschedule the event over fears that the close contact between attendees – who will not be forced to wear face masks – could lead to more deaths.

Tulsa’s mayor G.T. Bynum issued a curfew, which was later rescinded after Trump personally intervened. “Enjoy yourselves - thank you to Mayor Bynum!” the president tweeted after the curfew was withdrawn.


Tulsa’s city health director, Dr Bruce Dart, has said publicly throughout the week that he wants the event to be postponed, noting the likelihood of coronavirus spread as cases during the rally as cases in Oklahoma continue to drastically spike to successive new highs over the past few days.

The Trump campaign has made attendees sign waivers accepting they will not hold the president or the campaign responsible if they contract the virus.

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[MaisOuiMadame]

I'm not sure if it makes sense to try and understand the unreasonable.
But what's he intending?
I'd think if people get mass infected at a rally they won't vote for him anymore... Am I missing something?

 

[MakingTheGrade]

I'm not sure if it makes sense to try and understand the unreasonable.
But what's he intending?
I'd think if people get mass infected at a rally they won't vote for him anymore... Am I missing something?

I’m pretty sure he just doesn’t care. He wants to dominate the news cycle more than he wants to protect his voters.

And after the news from last night with Barr lying about Berman resigning, trump will probably be more provocative than ever to try to pull the media into Tulsa and not focus on that flagrantly corrupt move. I’m flat out expecting violence at this point.

 

[Tekate]

Second this. Leave your masks home. Share food. Bring it back to your brethren.

Vote Blue in November please.

"Tulsa’s city health director, Dr Bruce Dart, has said publicly throughout the week that he wants the event to be postponed, noting the likelihood of coronavirus spread as cases during the rally as cases in Oklahoma continue to drastically spike to successive new highs over the past few days."

I'll comment.
I say, Go Ahead On! Leave your masks at home. The more, the merrier!
Fewer survivors voting for Agent Orange in November might just help make American Great Again.

 

[MaisOuiMadame]

And after the news from last night with Barr lying about Berman resigning, trump will probably be more provocative than ever to try to pull the media into Tulsa and not focus on that flagrantly corrupt move. I’m flat out expecting violence at this point.

Yes, that's even the main headline internationally...

 

[AGBF]

I just watched Sheila Buck, who had a ticket for the rally, be arrested for "trespassing" at the venue where Trump is about to have his rally. She was sitting peacefully on the grounds of the area but was wearing and "I Can't Breathe" T-shirt. She was obviously denied her First Amendment rights.. She announced her name and that she was an American citizen as she was bundled into the police car.

 

[the_mother_thing]

I just watched Sheila Buck, who had a ticket for the rally, be arrested for "trespassing" at the venue where Trump is about to have his rally. She was sitting peacefully on the grounds of the area but was wearing and "I Can't Breathe" T-shirt. She was obviously denied her First Amendment rights.. She announced her name and that she was an American citizen as she was bundled into the police car.

The ACLU says otherwise ... the campaign has First Amendment rights, too.

Campaign events are open to the general public, so the nondiscrimination laws that apply in all places of public accommodation govern them. A campaign can no more exclude people based on their race or religion than a restaurant can refuse to serve them on that basis.

Here’s the thing, though: Campaigns can opt to exclude protesters from campaign rallies. The First Amendment doesn’t stop them — in fact, the First Amendment protects the campaign’s right to control its message. Generally, a campaign rents space for its rallies, which gives it the right to exclude people for “trespass” as well as get law enforcement’s help to do so.

A campaign can declare someone to be a trespasser if their presence interferes with the campaign’s chosen message. At a rally, for instance, enthusiastic sign-waving can be a requirement of attendance. A campaign has the right to control its own political theater, within the limits of nondiscrimination law. Deeming someone trying to attend a rally to be a protester because of her race or religion would, of course, violate the law.

 

[Calliecake]

It was just announced that 6 Trump campaign staffers working on Tulsa Rally test positive for virus. This rally needs to be cancelled.

 

[OreoRosies86]

This is the most disgusting thing I have ever seen. Arrested for a tee shirt. COWARDS, and RACISTS. ALL of them!

 

[bludiva]

The ACLU says otherwise ... the campaign has First Amendment rights, too.

i saw a video clip and a couple of photos...it looked like she was outside, not inside the rally, so i would have thought that does fall under her 1st amendment rights. i wonder if there are any lawyers on the thread who can speak to this. the rules should be the rules, apolitical. i'm wondering what the rules are in this case. can a rally refuse a participant entry if they are wearing a shirt that doesn't align with their cause or signifies they might be a protester? if it's a private event, i would think so, but up until she goes into the venue, i would think not...

 

[caf]

I just watched Sheila Buck, who had a ticket for the rally, be arrested for "trespassing" at the venue where Trump is about to have his rally. She was sitting peacefully on the grounds of the area but was wearing and "I Can't Breathe" T-shirt. She was obviously denied her First Amendment rights.. She announced her name and that she was an American citizen as she was bundled into the police car.

I’m a lawyer. This is odd. I don’t know OK law or Tulsa ordinances (which could include some distance requirement for protesters from venue) but she’s peacefully protesting, right? Outside the venue wearing a shirt Trump organizers don’t like? Sounds
problematic for the arrest. Like a clear them out first, worry about grounds later.

 

[the_mother_thing]

@bludiva I believe it is considered a private event since it’s paid for by the campaign; therefore they have rights, too. I think it’s like renting any other venue - you decide the guest list, theme, and probably dress code; just can’t discriminate based on protected group status. I assume since the area surrounding the venue was cordoned off not only for those going inside but the outside portion of the event as well (it isn’t just an indoor event), as well as for security & screening, that she technically was on what is considered event property.

A lot of people assume it’s because of her shirt, but that hasn’t been confirmed that I have read. Anyone have evidence that’s the case? The video I saw only picks up after there appears to have been a verbal exchange underway between her and police ... no telling what transpired beforehand, so I’ll wait for more info.

On a positive note, not a single rally attendee appeared to heckle, counter-protest, shout obscenities, or otherwise negatively engage her that I saw on the video. Everything thus far reveals an otherwise peaceful event, which is refreshing after weeks of nightly riots and violence plastered all over the news.

 

[caf]

The ACLU says otherwise ... the campaign has First Amendment rights, too.

She’s not in the rally - she’s outside. Again some cities/jurisdictions enact ordinances to disallow someone to get within x feet of a private property venue. But @ the mother thing - I think you’re right there is more to this story and I’m glad it was peaceful. I don’t disagree with your take on this. And we’ll have to wait to hear the rest of the story.

 

[AGBF]

Should any event funded by the federal government (as any event to which the president of the United States travels is), which means our taxes, or addressed by the President of the United States be off limits to protesters? Air Force One. The Secret Service.and much, much more. Not to mention the costs to the State and the municipality for the honor of hosting him.

In other words, can the president be private while taking our money for all his expenses?

 

[AGBF]

i saw a video clip and a couple of photos...it looked like she was outside, not inside the rally, so i would have thought that does fall under her 1st amendment rights.

They made her step aside after she showed her ticket because they said she could not wear her shirt into the arena. That may not be legal, private event or not. I wonder what The Supreme Court would say.

THEN they accused her of trespassing.

 

[AGBF]

Who said your First Amendment rights stop at a Trump rally?

 

[caf]

Should any event funded by the federal government (as any event to which the president of the United States travels is), which means our taxes, or addressed by the President of the United States be off limits to protesters? Air Force One. The Secret Service.and much, much more. Not to mention the costs to the State and the municipality for the honor of hosting him.

In other words, can the president be private while taking our money for all his expenses?

It’ll all be stuffed under the heading of security for POTUS. But great question!

 

[bludiva]

Who said your First Amendment rights stop at a Trump rally?

i don't know...protesters do get thrown out of events but i'm not sure what makes that ok - i would think if they are being disruptive. i don't know the legality about the message on one's shirt. imagine a biden event and neo-nazis walk in with "make america white again" shirts. would they be allowed to stay? would they be thrown out? i appreciate this woman standing up but am wondering what the rules are when it comes to this kind of protest.

 

[caf]

Who said your First Amendment rights stop at a Trump rally?

They don’t. But isn’t the issue more of what can the Trump campaign legally do to silence them? Drag them out...

 

[caf]

First Amendment rights are not unlimited. For instance, in High schools they can be legally restrained.

 

[AGBF]

They don’t. But isn’t the issue more of what can the Trump campaign legally do to silence them? Drag them out...

Trump gave a warning before that he would not put up with "protesters". Protesters have a right to protest. He has to put up with them. He also has to allow them to assemble peacefully. Even in the park across from The White House. Even if it makes a photo op for him inconvenient.

 

[AGBF]

First Amendment rights are not unlimited. For instance, in High schools they can be legally restrained.

And you can't call "fire" in a crowded theatre. Neither of which applies here.

 

[the_mother_thing]

Private campaign events are not funded by the Federal govt; this is no different than every POTUS before him. That ACLU link I posted above cites that Hillary, Obama and others have exercised similar rights.

He isn't denying people the right to protest; his campaign is exercising their right to permit or deny access to their privately-funded campaign event; what’s the problem?

Who would want to pay for an event geared toward a particular audience, then have members of that audience denied entry because agitators wanted to snatch up the tickets with the sole purpose of crashing it; they can stand out by the fence and shout all they want.