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[tiffanytwisted]

Lysser I am so sorry for your loss. I was really hoping you''d get good news today. I don''t know what else to say except that it just sucks. We are here for you girl. I hope your hubby is taking good care of you!!

 

[february2003bride]

Lysser- I am so so sorry. And you are right, it''s good to know you CAN get pregnant! I know waiting the next month will be hard, but Ebree is right that it gives your body a few weeks to get back to normal. (((((hugs)))))))

Ivana- congratulations!!

Ebree- How exciting! Cramps and boob pain? Two good signs!

 

[drk]

Lysser - Sorry to hear about your loss. I m/c in Jan at 8.5 weeks after betas that didn''t rise like they were supposed to, and then spotting after a couple reassuring u/s with a heartbeat. Despite my loss being further on than yours, I think I bled for about 11 days, not much worse (except crampier) than one of my usual periods, and then I had what seemed to be a really normal cycle. Great great EWCM. I''d have taken advantage of it, except DH was in India on business. Of course I''d been trying for 2.5 years at that point with only one pregnancy to show for it at age 33, so every cycle really counted. I''ve seen quite a few charts on FF of women conceiving during the first cycle after m/c. I guess it all depends on how you feel and what your doctor says as to when you can start again. With such an early loss and betas already back to 50, I''d bet you''ll have a fairly normal cycle this month.

IVANA! I''m so stoked to hear your news! I''d been wondering what was up with you! Glad to hear the IVFs have turned out well for you. Hope you have a smoother pregnancy than I did - sounds like things are going great so far.

Hi everyone else. Don''t know if you remember me from my infertility thread from last fall or my sh!t-I''m-probably-miscarrying thread from Jan. I''ve been lurking forever on here and the pg thread, and finally feel like coming out of lurkdom to say hi. I''ve been TTC for 3 years this month. 1 year before heading to the RE, then 3 months progesterone supplementation, HCG supplementation, then 5 rounds of clomid and timed intercourse. All BFN. And the clomid by the end had totally dried up the CM. Then on to femara - success first round of that, but m/c at 8.5 weeks. One cycle break, then back on the femara for 3 more with no success. And last month I did femara + Gonal-F injects + HCG trigger and timed intercourse. Had a couple cysts at the end of that cycle and the doc running my cycle was away in August, so this month has been a forced natural cycle. I think I O''d (for once in my life got a good positive OPK on Fri) on Sat, so I''m now knitting away at 3dpo. And of course in the same time I''ve been trying, my brother (younger) and his wife have gotten pregnant and had two kids, the youngest of which is now 6.5 months old. I think I''ll cry if they announce a #3 on the way before we finally manage to get pg with a sticky one.

I only managed O-4, O-1, and O for the BD line this month, and DH has semen volume issues, plus borderline morphology and motility, so we''ll see what happens. Please keep your fingers crossed for me!

Hopefuly I''ll get to know more of you soon. Personals are too overwhelming to even really try at this point...

Kate

 

[E B]

Date: 9/2/2008 10:00:07 PM
Author: february2003bride

Ebree- How exciting! Cramps and boob pain? Two good signs!

Thank you, Feb! I'm leaning more toward not pregnant, however, mostly because the boob pain fades in and out. They haven't hurt since this afternoon. I just don't know what to think.

Did AF ever come, or did you have your tests today?

 

[littlelysser]

DD - I''m already making plans for sushi and drinks! And maybe some soft cheese. Although that may be a one way ticket on the vomit comet...but hey...why not! Oh, and the puppinses have been getting an extreme amount of squeezes!

Robbie - I''m in the city. And to say I loved them would be an understatement. My doc, who is my GP and my gyno, (and who is my favorite doctor I''ve ever had in my entire life - I LOVE HER) recommended them. They were really responsive when I called with questions during business hours. I called this past Sunday, semi-freaking out...called the emergency number...left a message. They got back to me almost immediately and the on-call doc was great. Basically told me I wasn''t a nutter, and that I could either come in on Tuesday morning or go to the ER that night. I hemmed and hawed and she basically said that she could tell I was worried, and that I should just go to the ER. She told me she''d order an U/S and they''d consult with her. After I arrived at the ER, the doc on duty said she wasn''t going to do a U/S because it was so early. Long story short, she called the on-call doc and the doc basically insisted on the U/S because she''d told me I''d have one...I was really impressed with that. When they called to give me the bad news today, I spoke with the nurse practitioner and she was great. I was just really impressed with everyone there. Plus, the practice group is all women, which I REALLY like.

Ebree - When are you officially late? DUST DUST DUST!!!

 

[tiffanytwisted]

Welcome drk!
I do remember the infertility thread from last fall. Thanks for sharing your story and good luck!

 

[littlelysser]

Feb - Thanks for the kind words! We are okay with waiting as long as the doc says it is necessary, which is one cycle...A month of care free living coming my way!

DRK - I just read your earlier thread. I''m so sorry for what you went through. This whole TTC ordeal can be so darn difficult and heartbreaking. I have to say, this thread is awesome and this is a wonderful group of smart, funny, and compassionate women. I hope you''ll stick around and get to know us! And even more than that, I hope this cycle works out for you!!!!

 

[Dreamer_D]

DrK welcome to the loonie bin! I really hope this month turns out to be the magic month, I think you timed the BD really well with three shots in the fertile phase. I''m curious, are you a medical doctor? I''m a doctor too, but not a "real" doctor

, just a boring old PhD. There seem to be quite a few of us over-edumacated types around here. I also wonder if you have ever tried charting? Many of us are way too obsessed with it so I just wondered if it was a tool you had ever tried.

 

[robbie3982]

Just a quick check in before I dry my hair and head off to work:

I had a small temp rise this morning, but it''s not high enough to mean I O''d. Plus my cervix is still high and soft. Lame. On to day 7 of the marathon. Here''s my chart just for fun:

 

[Pandora II]

Just thinking about your post about your OB team Lysser, and I have a bit of a conundrum that maybe you guys could help me with...

I have an AMAZING GP who has been so supportive of all my nightmares with my pain meds and my bipolar issues. I don''t know what I would have done without his help when I had my last really bad depressive episode. (He''s bipolar as well so understands the situation).

I have a bit of a problem though and it probably sounds totally ridiculous. Everytime I go to see him I’m always there for a good half an hour (appointments are 8 minutes in the UK) as he likes to chat about health service politics and various other things that aren’t necessarily related to whatever ailment or other I have gone with.

To be perfectly honest I know he has a bit of a thing about me – not in any way that I would feel he would ever try anything (he’s very happily married with 2 kids) and he doesn’t make me feel uncomfortable and frankly, looking at the area he works in - a very impoverished inner-city practice - and looking round his waiting room at most of the people there, I would like to see me too!

I know my father – who is also a GP always had ‘favourite’ patients but it didn’t mean anything other than he just liked seeing them.

But, I don’t think I feel totally comfortable with the idea of having to take any clothes off etc. We’ve discussed my TTC and he has been very helpful. I feel really bad if I use him as my GP right up to when/if I get pg and then say ‘Oh, now I’d like a female doctor’.

I wouldn’t feel like this about a male OB/Gynae who I just saw at a hospital, but my GP is someone who has a more holistic relationship.

I hope all this makes sense….

Do you think male GPs are used to women suddenly saying ‘thanks very much, you’re a great doctor but now I’d rather see a woman – but I’ll come back when there’s no removing of clothes involved.’

 

[Dreamer_D]

Hey Robbie, I notice that the two high temps on CD 11 and 14 (maybe off it's from my memeory of your chart) are open circles... was this b/c they were taken at a later time? If so, they could be odd-balls and could be excluded then this rise today could be ovulation... here's hoping, I know how exhasuting it can be waiting...to...finally...O!! (I just mean mentally excluded the high odd-balls.)

Pandora I understand not wanting to hurt hurt feelig, but do whatever makes you feel most comfortable during your prenatal care and the birh of your baby! You don't even have to tell him why, just choose your new doctor and say call this practice and say, "I'm going to see Dr. so-and-so for prenatal care, can you please put that in my chart?" I don't think you even need to tell him in person unless you feel compelled to.

 

[fisherofmengirly]

Here is an update of my chart. I was so excited this AM when I had a big temp rise, but it''s just the same as what I had 5 days ago, so I think that means no ovulation for me. And if not, then another 6 days of baby making CM isn''t likely. Argh!

Is it common to have baby making CM then have it go away for a day, then come back again? I''ve noticed that sometimes I have it at different times of the day. Is that common for you guys, too?

 

[littlelysser]

Pandora - as much as you don''t want to hurt your GP''s feelings, I say you need to be totally comfortable with your OB...as my understanding is that when you go into labor, you pretty much check your clothes and modesty at the door!

I''d hope he''d be able to understand that...ya know?

As for us...we are doing alright.

I love DH so darn much. He''s just the best. When we were in bed last night, he was all cuddly cute and was telling me how much he loved me - and said one of the reasons was because he knows what a great mother I''ll be. It was just really sweet...particularly considering that we haven''t always wanted kids and that he was slower than I to come around on the issue.

 

[fisherofmengirly]

Oh LL, that is precious. I think that during TTC, you learn even more about your spouse, their compassion, etc. I''m so glad that your husband is being a sweetie. They say rough times are what make you stronger. I think they''re also part of what shows you the character and love your spouse possesses.

For me, I''ve learned so much more about the true heart Paul has to be a daddy because he does get disappointed when we find out it didn''t happen this cycle, etc. It''s sweet to see. It''s also good to actually know that it''s something he wants, because he too was slower to come aboard on the baby making boat.

I''m glad you two are doing okay.

 

[fisherofmengirly]

Pandora, since you see a dr. more often during pregnancy than any other time (when you''re healthy), I think you should definitely see one who you are comfortable with. Lots of GPs get passed by when a woman gets pregnant. I don''t think it''s anything a Dr. should take personally, but there are specialists for a reason, you know?

Good luck making a good decision!

 

[fisherofmengirly]

So, this weekend Paul and I did a little dreaming and went to Babies-R-Us. We don''t plan to find out the sex of our child once we are pregnant (but I''m not sure how that will work out, in reality), so we wanted to see what sort of bedding sets that they had that would work for a girl or a boy.

We rarely agree on decor type items and I knew nothing even remotely "girly" would be acceptable to him, in case we bring home a "little man."

Anyway, I found the cutest crib set and he liked it, too. He said it''s not flowers on the print, it''s "nature." Oh how I agree!

Here''s hoping they still make this set when we are preggo, because I love it!!

 

[fisherofmengirly]

Then, last night we putted around online and found more that we both like (they are decidely more "boyish," by the way):

Monkeys...

 

[fisherofmengirly]

Fishies:

 

[fisherofmengirly]

And finally, stripes and circles:

 

[mela lu]

hi all! This little thread is not so little anymore!!! We''re 130 pgs strong! YEY GIRLS!

Ebree - glad to hear that boob spur has settled down. Hopefully the intermittent pains are good signs when is AFF due?

Ivana - TWINS!!!!!

Congrats~ You are certainly in the right place for twins. Can''t wait to learn more about your story.

drk (kate) - welcome and thank you so much for sharing. Your story reminds us how precious and miraculous this whole process is. It is truly a blessing; not to be taken lightly. I''m so sorry that you have had such issues and emotional trials. I''m really hoping that you have some good ol'' fashioned luck soon. You deserve it! Hang in there, and stay strong! I''m glad you came out of lurkdom

LittleL - hi girlfriend. you ok today?

LovelyL - oh oh oh oh oh. Hangin'' tough!

Robbie - Hopefully your temps will go up again tomorrow, making today a slight temp rise...I can only imagine how "tired" you must be! O-dust for you!

Pandora - I betcha your Doc has had this happen before. I wouldn''t feel badly, as I agree what has been said about feeling comfortable with your prenatal care. You have to do what''s best for your family

. You can still see him for other things, right? Sprained ankle, indigestion, lock jaw. LOL.

Fisher - not sure about the CM thing, but mine did "change" throughout the day between watery and eggwhite. I think that''s normal.

As for me, I''m 7DPO, *know* I''m KTFU, but have to wait for my BFP for proof. Today was neg on my cheap pee stick. Honestly, If I''m not PG, They I''m dying of that meat contamination that''s happening here in Ontario, Canada. Oy!

 

[mela lu]

oh Fisher - I LOVE with a capital L that "nature" one! We''re going to do the same thing and get unisex things. SO FUN! I''ve already decided I want the nursery to be "magic forest" theme (whatever that means, i made it up...) but you know, winged fairies, funny trolls and stuff....like a NON-scary pan''s labyrinth.

 

[radiantgirl]

Ivanadiamond - congrats on twins!!!!

Lysser - so glad you are feeling better and isn''t it sweet how our hubbies can be so compassionate. That''s the reason why you married him, right?

drk - welcome again and so sorry for everything you have gone through in the past. Fingers are crossed for you!!!

Ebree - hopefully you will know something soon. Good luck, hun!

robbie - good luck on Oing soon. Hopefully with a few month high temps, FF will give you crosshairs to confirm it. I hate waiting to O more so than being in the 2 ww. Hopefully your sex marathon will soon end.

fisher - hopefully you will O soon too! GL!

As for me, I am definitely out this cycle. I''m on CD 30, 13 dpo and my temp did a huge nose dive this a.m.

I''ve been cramping so bad since Labor Day and last night was pretty intense and had some spotting. I told my hubby that I totally expect a temp drop this a.m. and sure enough I was right. I feel so numb right now. I really thought this was our month. It doesn''t really help that my 31st birthday is coming up in 2.5 weeks and EDD is at the end of the month on 9/26/08. I''m not getting any younger. Guess we just have to keep on trying. This really sucks. Sorry for the vent...

Oh and Dreamer Dachsie - you were right and FF were right about my O day because my LP is 14 days. I guess this month, I was a slow riser on my temperature to verify O.

One good thing though is that my cycle seems to be getting back to normal since my missed m/c back in March. This is my third cycle since then. The first cycle took me 105 days to get AF because my body still thought I was pregnant for so long. Last month, my cycle was 37 days with O on cd 23. This month is a 30 day cycle with O on day 17. I was really looking forward to having a May baby, but now we can just hope for a June 2009 baby.

Here is my chart if you are interested.

AFF should show up either later on today or tomorrow.

 

[blushingbride]

Hi girls! Just a quick drive by as I have a short work week this week - I'm off Friday for a wedding and need to get all my stuff done between today and tomorrow. I'm on CD 4 and my fertility monitor arrived yesterday so, I set it this morning and waiting to POAS so it can figure out my fertile days. Very exciting stuff!

Ebree and Mela - waiting to see some positive tests from you gals!!!

Lovely - I know, damn AFF! You and I are in the same boat it seems. Here's hoping that this is OUR cycle!!! I feel much more positive about this one than my last one, so maybe the positive thinking will help the process! Beautiful pics of the beach BTW - sounds like you had an amazing time!

Ivana - congrats to you on your long awaited BFP!!!!!

Drk - Welcome!!!

I remember you from a thread you started a while back regarding infertility and PCOS. I was following along with that thread for a while. Wishing you all the best for this cycle as it seems you've had a tough struggle. I hope you find this thread to be helpful and motivational as you continue to TTC!

Robbie - I'm with DD - today could be your O-day. Your temp doesn't need to skyrocket in order for it to be considered ovulation. See what happens tomorrow and if it continues to rise, then today was definitely your day.

Radiant - ugh...I'm sorry to hear about your dip in temp and AFF on her way. Your chart looks awesome and it's proof that TTC is all about chance...no matter how well we try and plan for everything to be "just right" in the end, it's not up to us. Well, it's not over until it's over so, hang in there!

To everyone else waiting to BD, BDing, knitting or KTFU...GOOD LUCK!!!!

 

[mela lu]

I''m so sorry Radiant. Boo hiss. I''m sorry that you''re in the dumpolas today. Damn AFF.

the positive: Here''s to a June baby?!

 

[Dreamer_D]

Date: 9/3/2008 9:02:08 AM
Author: fisherofmengirly
Here is an update of my chart. I was so excited this AM when I had a big temp rise, but it's just the same as what I had 5 days ago, so I think that means no ovulation for me. And if not, then another 6 days of baby making CM isn't likely. Argh!

Is it common to have baby making CM then have it go away for a day, then come back again? I've noticed that sometimes I have it at different times of the day. Is that common for you guys, too?

Fisher typically, once fertile fluid arrives it is there to stay until you ovulate, but it is not unheard of to have it for a few days and then have it disappear for a few days, then have it return and then you ovulate! As for variation during the day, it can be all over the place. If at some point in the say you have EW or the wet panties

, then count the WHOLE day as fertile CF, even if later in the day you seem dry or something. Maybe you will see a nice high temp again tomorrow, that would probably confirm ovulation, but if not, then fertile CF could reappear later.

ETA Radiant, I'm so sorry you are out! I know it is hard, but it does take an average of 6 months TTC to get preggo, and since your body is just getting back on track, this is really like cycle 1! And you are not old chikita, many of us are much older crones

on here, like our good friend Lisa who is 39 and preggo with twins right now, and many many of the women in the mommy and preggo thread were 35 or over when they conceived. Your are a relative spring chicken! hee hee... I am 30, btw, so I hear you on feeling old. It'll happen. If it makes you feel better, your chart is gorgeous and suggests a nice healthy and fertile body! {{HUGS}}

 

[AmberWaves]

So much has happened!

LL, again, I''m so sorry, but it''s always nice to have a DH that is a rock. It''s nice to feel taken care of.

DRK: Welcome! I remember you from before, and I hope to hear more from you!

Ivana: Yay for twins!!! Congrats congrats congrats!

Radiant: So sorry about the AF dip. Of all the unwelcomeness.

Fisher: I also love that natural bedding. Babies r us, you say?

Ebree: I hope hope hope you caught that egg(s) and everything is great!

Robbie: I hope your O shows up soon!

Pandora: I totally agree with everyone else, get a new OB, it''ll make things easier.

Mela:: Yay for PG feelings! I hope your "feelings" are spot on!

Blushing: I hope things are good for you, and yay for the fertility monitor!

Tiffany: Howdy lady.

Now, for me. I''m CD17, and I''m pretty sure I o''d on Saturday. I have had two high temps, but one was 97.41 and then the next day was 97.33, so we''ll see. I know for sure, though, I had the mittleschmertz and EWCM for years. But, the family drama began to crescendo yesterday, and spent all last night just sobbing for my poor dad. I don''t know what we''re going to do, he''s convinced the sisters will kick him out of the house, and being unemployed and uninsured, I''m just devastated that sisters who claim "family first" would do that. I don''t even know what to think anymore.

 

[fisherofmengirly]

Amber, it is from Babies R Us, indeed.

I hope the family stuff calms down soon for you, girl. I wish that what people say matters most in life would be what they lived, you know? It''s sad.

I can''t remember if it was you or Ebree (or someone else, maybe) who said they were going to get a Peanut Shell for their baby some day. While we were in Babies R Us, there was a new mother who was using the pink circle one. Another very preggo woman was asking her about it and the new mom said it''s great and that she had another kind of carrier/pouch that dug into her skin and this one is the best fit, ever. The baby looked so snuggly in it, too.

I have added that to my list of dreams, too!

 

[robbie3982]

Pandora, I would definitely find a new doc if you''re not comfortable with this one. I''m confused though, is it different over there than it is here? If he''s your family doctor, wouldn''t you need an OB anyway? (If I missed this please forgive me since I''m at work having the week from hell filling in for someone else and I only had time to scan)

DD, the open circles were because I checked "sleep deprived." For some reason I was having a hard time sleeping through the night. They were taken at regular time though. I looked through my old charts and I''ve never had the day after O be less than 97.3 and it''s usually higher. My temps pre-O usually bounce back and forth between 96.8 and 97.2, so it''s still in my normal pre-O range. I''m hoping maybe I just O''d and my temp was on the way up, but I doubt it. More EWCM today. Is it weird that it''s getting more watery as the days go on? I was almost thinking it could be semen or lube (though would that really still be around over 12 hours later?), but then a blob fell in the toilet and stayed a blob so I guess it is actually CM. (sorry if that''s tmi)

Fisher, it actually happens frequently for me to have at least one patch of fertile CM before the one that leads up to O. I think I''ll cry if that''s what''s happening with me right now. The baby stuff you found is so cute! My friend is doing a jungle theme for her little boy who''s due in November.

Mela, thanks for the O dust! DH suggested that we just skip yesterday. I was like, Are you crazy? What if today is O day?! Then all of this sex will have been for nothing and I''ll never know if having sex today would''ve given us a BFP if I get a BFN! LOL. My poor baby is tired. I hope you get your bfp soon!

Radiantgirl, I''m sorry you''re out

. Booooo AFF!

Lysser, I''m glad your DH is being so great.

Oh geez, Amber

. I was really hoping the family sitch was getting a bit better.

 

[Pandora II]

Maybe it's different in the US.

Here you only see an OB perhaps twice in the whole pregnancy and a bit more if you have problems - and 'maybe' at the birth (if you're high risk you will normally be under a consultant for the birth). Normally it's just a midwife at the birth and sometimes they are looking after 3 or 4 people at the same time...there's a doctor on the ward (normally a registrar) in case there are problems but you might never see them.

Do I love the NHS or what...

So, 99% of your pregnancy appointments are with your GP. This is the problem... I guess I should just talk to him when it happens. I'm quite happy to leave modesty at the door with people I don't feel I know...

Your GP surgery does pap tests etc over here as well (every 3 years), but normally it's one of the nurses that does it.


In the US it seems like you have a specialist for most things, here it's mainly your GP who does everything.

Just out of interest, how many scans do you get in the US? We get one at 12 weeks and in some areas another at 20 weeks, but a lot of places it's just the one.

Sadly going private is unbelievably expensive - it's about $32k for a normal birth...

 

[cara]

Pandora- in the US women will be shipped off to the ob/gyn for all pregnancy related things. Non-pregnant women are also usually allowed regular visits to their gyn. doctor without special referral from their GP under many insurance plans. Except for "family doctors", which are broad-based care providers more common in rural settings, most regular docs do not deliver babies or prenatal care.

One common reason for this is insurance. Malpractice insurance for delivering babies is insanely expensive, even if this is only a small component of your practice. Thus many doctors that used to deliver babies as only part of their practice have stopped as they cannot pay for the insurance required. This has also squeezed out licensed midwives/ob. nurse practitioners in some states.

Get the care that will make you comfortable. Think a little bit about if his knowing your previous medical history well would make it worth getting over your nekkid discomfort, but go with your decision without making it too personal. Its your medical care.

Yes, $32k is what the hospital bill said for my friend's completely normal birth. Her insurance only paid a fraction of that (and she was not liable for the rest), but it is what an uninsured person would have been billed. Going off insurance is not an option for most people here either.