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Date: 9/3/2008 11:53:12 AM
Author: Pandora II
Maybe it''s different in the US.

Here you only see an OB perhaps twice in the whole pregnancy and a bit more if you have problems - and ''maybe'' at the birth (if you''re high risk you will normally be under a consultant for the birth). Normally it''s just a midwife at the birth and sometimes they are looking after 3 or 4 people at the same time...there''s a doctor on the ward (normally a registrar) in case there are problems but you might never see them.

Do I love the NHS or what...
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So, 99% of your pregnancy appointments are with your GP. This is the problem... I guess I should just talk to him when it happens. I''m quite happy to leave modesty at the door with people I don''t feel I know...

Your GP surgery does pap tests etc over here as well (every 3 years), but normally it''s one of the nurses that does it.


In the US it seems like you have a specialist for most things, here it''s mainly your GP who does everything.

Just out of interest, how many scans do you get in the US? We get one at 12 weeks and in some areas another at 20 weeks, but a lot of places it''s just the one.

Sadly going private is unbelievably expensive - it''s about $32k for a normal birth...
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Pandora, our system in Canada is similar in almost every respect. I find the minor inconveniences (like only 2 u/s, maybe just 1) a small price to pay for universal free medical care... but that is another thread
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Just wanted to add - GPs don''t deliver babies unless they have to: ie you go into labour in their consulting room.

Some I suppose may do homebirths, but both my GP and my father have a rule that anyone who wants a homebirth will need to find a new GP as they strongly disapprove and don''t want to be responsible for caring for that patient.
 
Pandora, what country are you in?
 
DD, I think we only get 1 or 2 US here in the US too. I think the first is usually early on to date the pregnancy and the second is to find out gender.
 
Date: 9/3/2008 12:56:21 PM
Author: peonygirl
Pandora, what country are you in?
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I''m in the UK
 
Morning ladies!

Feb- Any updates?

drk- Welcome! I remember your thread...I hope this is your month. It looks like you got a great amount of bding in!

Robbie- I hope you o today, we only went five days last month so I can only imagine how tired you guys must be!

Pandora- I think it is critically important that you be comfortable with your GP. That you would feel uncomfortable being examined in a gown is probably not a good sign (as you well know since you posted!). Are there any other holistic GPs that you can try out? Asking around might not be a bad idea, especially before you get pregnant.

LL- Glad to hear that you are hanging in there. Your DH is so sweet!

Mela- I love that you know that you are pregnant! How long is your luteal phase normally?

Radiant- I''m sorry you are out, it''s great that your cycles are normalizing though! Hang in there.

Blushing- It''s great that the monitor arrived so early in your cycle, I love mine!

Amber- I hope things settle down soon, it''s cruel to keep your dad in such limbo.
 
CD8 here, still low on the monitor. I think we are going to bd every other day (started Monday) until I get high readings on the monitor (then switch to every day). I''m curious to see when I o as last cycle it was late for me (cd16). I really hope this is our month, but the rational part of me says that we could be in for a long ride. Like all of you, the not knowing/being able to control component is the hardest for me to wrap my head around. We''re only on our second cycle so I know patience is key, but man, I''d LOVE to be pregnant!
 
Am- for some reason I always skip you when loading up my shout outs to everyone! So sorry!! It''s so hard to wait and be completely powerless, isn''t it?
 
There seem to be a lot of TTCers here in the middle of the two week wait.

Here''s hoping happy thoughts for all of you!!


My car''s in the shop today, so I''m working from home. Since it doesn''t matter when I work as long as I get in my hours, I''ve been putting around on the computer. Kind of a lot. So now my new fascination is trying to find a BBT chart that looks like mine and still ends with at least an ovulation. Fun times making myself sick about something I don''t even know to be worried about yet.

Why do we do this to ourselves?

*By the way, that post about the 14 steps of taking a pregnancy test. I SO did that in Feb/March when I was absolutely convinced I was preggo. I was putting that thing up to the light, checking it outside and inside, dismantling it, everything. I blame evaporation lines for my insanity. Surely it''s not natural.
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Do you girls ever think about how you''ll react when you finally get the positive test results? I know it''ll be total shock and excitement and giddiness will flow through me, but I think I''ll also have that thick feeling in my tummy of "Oh my gosh, it''s for real now. Am I ready? Can I really do this?" Paul has already warned me that the "realness" of it will take him weeks to process and he said I shouldn''t be sad if he acts weird, like in shock, when I tell him. Goodness, I hope he''s excited. It is always so hard to know how you really will react when something so life changing (although wonderful) happens.
 
Fisher, I think I''ll have the same reaction. I had a similar reaction when we got our 2nd cat. I went from super excited to "OMG, what did we just do?! Everything was perfect and now it''s going to be different!". I imagine a baby will give me the same feeling time about a million.
 
Am04 - that''s our plan too. We''ll be BDing every other day until a high is reached and then from high to after O we''ll be BDing every day. Lets see if we can stick to it!
 
This whole time of TTC (okay, it''s not been a long time, but still), I''ve tried really hard to not be too obsessed with it, as I have a tendency to do with things that are "big" in my life. I had thought about getting an OPK monitor type thingy, but yeah, I don''t know. Does it work with women who have irregular cycles? What I mean is, would I end up spending tons of tests on just one cycle, since I don''t have a clear set time of ovulating? I think I need to just wait out this cycle and see if I have any luck with BBT charting, to see if I am ovulating. Since so much of what you put into the chart is your own observation, I kind of doubt that I''m doing it right (what if what I think is one thing is another?), though. What gets me is that at the beginning of the cycle I''m all low key, ready for the wait. Then about half way through, I get nuts. This weekend I read an article online stating all these "rules" for the kind of sex you can and can''t have while trying to have a baby. It''s almost like the more information I get, the more nervous it makes me.

A friend of mine at work has a heart shaped uterus and hasn''t had a successful time getting pregnant for over a year now. My heart breaks for her, and then I get upset with myself that I''m so impatient and I don''t even have a reason to think anything is wrong with me at this point...

Lack of control over what you want in life can be so powerful over your thoughts and feelings. I had a dream on Sunday night that I was pregnant. I felt the baby move and it woke me up. I was so sure it was real. I called to Paul to feel the baby and he was asleep so he just patted me on the arm and rolled over. It''s amazing how you think you can feel something you''ve never felt. I have no clue what it would feel like, for real, but I knew it was a baby kicking me in my dream. Nuts.
 
Date: 9/3/2008 2:43:17 PM
Author: fisherofmengirly
This whole time of TTC (okay, it''s not been a long time, but still), I''ve tried really hard to not be too obsessed with it, as I have a tendency to do with things that are ''big'' in my life. I had thought about getting an OPK monitor type thingy, but yeah, I don''t know. Does it work with women who have irregular cycles? What I mean is, would I end up spending tons of tests on just one cycle, since I don''t have a clear set time of ovulating? I think I need to just wait out this cycle and see if I have any luck with BBT charting, to see if I am ovulating.
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I think it''s best you ride out this cycle and temp. A monitor will totally work for you, but you are right, you''ll probably have to go through a lot of sticks. I personally love my monitor but I think it would annoy me if I had a long cycle. Based on your fertility signs, cm, maybe you will be ovulating earlier this cycle. If your cycle continues to "normalize" post-bc then the monitor might not be such a bad idea but at this point it would be costly.
 
oh fisher. I believe that "craztown" that we''re all in is the ol'' TICK.
"baby on the brain"
"biological clock"
"baby-crazy"

yup. This little thing had taken hold of our sanity and is making us lose our miiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinds.
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Date: 9/3/2008 3:16:57 PM
Author: mela lu
oh fisher. I believe that ''craztown'' that we''re all in is the ol'' TICK.

''baby on the brain''

''biological clock''

''baby-crazy''


yup. This little thing had taken hold of our sanity and is making us lose our miiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinds.
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Very true! In my industry, CM is a very commonly used abbreviation, but it doesn''t stand for the same thing. That''s definitely the first thing that comes to my mind though when I hear it even though I''ve been at this job for almost 6 months now and we''ve only been TTC for 1!
 
Mela- Couldn''t have said it better!
 
Date: 9/3/2008 1:13:35 PM
Author: robbie3982
DD, I think we only get 1 or 2 US here in the US too. I think the first is usually early on to date the pregnancy and the second is to find out gender.
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I think the second one, at around 20 weeks, is technically an ''anatomy scan'' to make sure that all the parts have formed up nicely, no heart issues, spinal area in order, that kind of thing. They check each organ to make sure all is well, because if something is wrong, as with Pave''s baby who possibly will be born with a heart defect (surprisingly common), they may need to operate as soon as the baby is born.

You can usually find out the gender at this point too, but that''s kind of a fun side effect of seeing all the other, more critical stuff!

From what I''ve heard, sometimes, the 20 weeks anatomy scan is the only ultrasound you get!
 
I know this has been asked for 100000000000 times already, but can anyone give me the link to that website healthyfetus or safefetus or whatever it was called? I think it''s buried deep-dish in this thread now.

SPANX!!!!
 
Here you go!

http://www.safefetus.com/
 
thanks am!
 
hi fisher - I know that the CBE monitor isn''t recommend for women with PCOS, but I''m not certain about irregular cycles generally.

radiant -
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AFF
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hang in there! and Happy early birthday!!!!
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LittleL: your DH sounds like a keeper
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my dh and I had sushi last night
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a delicious non-pregnant compatible delight!! hope that today is a *good day*

amo4: I''m on CD 8 also! this morning I got a high reading
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last cycle my first high arrived at CD 9 and my second peak was at CD12 . . . so that was pretty early to begin with and this cycle seems even earlier . . . not sure what that means aside from the fact that it is BD time
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so i called my dr. this morning to follow-up with my original message and got a return call from some random person saying that my dr''s advice was to come in for an appointment and to call the general appointment line. how helpful. i called the line and the nearest appointment was OCT 2.
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needless to say I started looking for another place pronto. I was using a hospital in my area, but I found one highly recommended ob/gyn group of about 6 or so drs and one individual practicioner. I made appointments with both and while they aren''t until the end of September, I feel better knowing that I''m going to get some more individualized attention (fingers crossed).
 
One other funny thing I''ve totally noticed I do (okay, Paul pointed it out to me) is that I count pregnant women when we are out in public. It''s like when you buy a new car and then you notice all the cars like yours. Funny stuff. I count pregnant women in public. "ooh, there''s one." "Number 5." "Wow, she''s a beautiful pregnant."

On a happy note, I am still thinking that maybe I will ovulate this cycle, and before day 40, even. Whoo Hoo! I had more fertile CM today. Although, I don''t have anything that''s dropping into the toilet, like Robbie did.

This is hilarious; I totally bonded with the LIW girls because we were all waiting to get to marry our forever loves, and then in BWW, you get to talk about flowers and cakes and happy stuff like that. Here, not so much: CM and "puppetering" and things of that nature. I had gotten to where I missed the LIW threads and the BWW; but here it''s like I''m re-connecting with some of the LIWs from my time frame and the BWWers and now, new people, too.

It''s fun. Every time someone pops on with a positive test, I get so elated. I run and go tell Paul almost every time, like he *knows* you, too.

Back to possible ovulation: does that sometimes come with a headache or a slight feeling of wanting to puke? I''ve felt that way the past three days when I woke up, but then I got to thinking it was my prenatal. I''d taken it at night for the longest time, then switched to mornings because it was easier to remember, but it''s been over a month since I switched to taking them in the morning. Seems weird it would be the vitamin, since I''ve been doing it in the AM for so long now.

Anyway, when I got the prenatals, I got the GIANT bottle of them (something like 250) and now I''m down to only three left. I wonder if I should try another brand. I picked the one I did because it had a high level of iron and folic acid and I am borderline anemic, so I figured a slightly higher level of iron than the other two kinds at the store was a good thing.
 
fisher - I had nausea and migrane headaches LAST cycle around o. I think it''s normal. Also, i love that you refer to your DH by his name. paul. It''s so much more personal and i *feel* like I know you two better as a result. hilar.

I''m going to test on Friday (which will be 9DPO). It may seem early, but I feel confident, and if it''s neg, then I''ll just have to pee, dip, wait and repeat on Sat!

Only 2 more sleeps....
 
Confession: last time I thought we were pregnant (okay, the only time) I took a pregnancy test before the egg would have even implanted. I wasn''t so savy yet (and have a ways to go), and I thought hey, we could be pregnant, let me check. All I know is that I spent at least 50 bucks that month on testing. It was nuts. But there''s just something about that first time when you feel like it could actually be true, for real. It was impossible to drive by a drug store and not stop to see if they had brand better than the other stupid ones I''d already used that kept saying negative. It was so real to me that I wrote a letter to our child, just knowing the little nub was growing in me. I kept the letter, though. She/he will have it some day, so they will have confirmation that 1. Mom loves them like nuts and 2. Mom is nuts.
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Then I found out about ordering the little bitty strips online. For cheap. And you get like 20 in one pop. It was like Christmas in March!!
 
Good luck on the test, Mela. There are a lot of girls waiting to pee on sticks right now. What an exciting time for this thread!!
 
Date: 9/3/2008 4:01:08 PM
Author: mela lu
fisher - I had nausea and migrane headaches LAST cycle around o. I think it''s normal. Also, i love that you refer to your DH by his name. paul. It''s so much more personal and i *feel* like I know you two better as a result. hilar.


I''m going to test on Friday (which will be 9DPO). It may seem early, but I feel confident, and if it''s neg, then I''ll just have to pee, dip, wait and repeat on Sat!


Only 2 more sleeps....
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Heeey, I call my DH Paul, too...
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Fisher, you will not believe how much I have been sitting here and nodding my head reading your posts... been there, done that, am not the only obsessive nutter on this board!
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I POAS this am (I have LOADS of internet cheapies so I can indulge without worrying about my bank balance!) - BFN, but I knew it was way too early, so not bothered by it.

Tomorrow is another go, oh, and Saturday and Sunday etc etc

My temps were down a tiny bit today - 36.60 yesterday to 36.57 this morning so I'm hoping like mad for a rise tomorrow.

I'm now 8DPO and don't feel like I'm pg in the slightest... no sore bbs, no nausea, no nothing - I am totally exhausted all the time, but that might just be recovering from all that BDing.
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I guess if I get a migraine on Sunday I know I'm out.
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Date: 9/3/2008 5:22:33 PM
Author: AmberWaves

Date: 9/3/2008 4:01:08 PM
Author: mela lu
fisher - I had nausea and migrane headaches LAST cycle around o. I think it''s normal. Also, i love that you refer to your DH by his name. paul. It''s so much more personal and i *feel* like I know you two better as a result. hilar.


I''m going to test on Friday (which will be 9DPO). It may seem early, but I feel confident, and if it''s neg, then I''ll just have to pee, dip, wait and repeat on Sat!


Only 2 more sleeps....
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Heeey, I call my DH Paul, too...
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Haha, you know, Amber, I was thinking about that a while back. Seems like most post DH here or whatever, but I always say Paul and you do, too. Must be the name, huh?
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Paul is a junior, and so goes by his middle name, as his father goes by his first name. Anyway, when I met him, I was disappointed that his name was Paul. Every time I heard it, I thought of a pall bearer. And who wants to think about death and caskets when you first meet a guy you just adore? Haha... the name has grown on me now and I can''t imagine him as anyone other than my Paul.
 
Pandora, I think we were cycle buddies, huh? Girl, I haven''t even confirmed an ovulation yet. Oh to be 8 days past ovulation...

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Good luck. And yeah, we''re all nuts. Pee on a stick all you want to. I won''t tell.
 
Date: 9/3/2008 4:01:08 PM
Author: mela lu
fisher - I had nausea and migrane headaches LAST cycle around o. I think it''s normal. Also, i love that you refer to your DH by his name. paul. It''s so much more personal and i *feel* like I know you two better as a result. hilar.


I''m going to test on Friday (which will be 9DPO). It may seem early, but I feel confident, and if it''s neg, then I''ll just have to pee, dip, wait and repeat on Sat!


Only 2 more sleeps....
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Ooh, I hope that''s what it means because I''ve had a headache and slight nausea (didn''t mark it down on my chart each time) for the last few days.
 
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