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Hi Ladies,

I'm new to this thread too. I just started reading a few pages back and am a bit overwhelmed. I thought I'd just take a quick peek over here since we are going to start TTC soon. I'm 34 and will be 35 in December. I *thought* we would just start TTC by, well, not using protection, on a "whenever" basis. When I started reading here, I became very nervous. I don't even understand what everyone is talking about in the past few pages!

Are there one or two websites that people generally refer to for beginner type information about charting, etc.?

Thanks!
 
welcome vetrik!
You'll be in good company here!
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Sorry to hear about your Ectopic. that sux, but as we always say here - at least you know you can get Knocked up!

There are quite a few acronyms tossed around here, so you may want to read pg 4 (I believe) and skim through the thread. LOL. But we're pretty good about explaining things.

The goal of this thread is to become a JERKSTORE. Jerkstore = anyone who comes on this thread and then gets KTFU; especially with twins.

That is a funny one to explain.


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Good luck!!!!

ETA: Hi LovesVintage! Welcome as well!
Try www.fertilityfriend.com A lot of us use it and like it...GREAT Q and A section
 
Welcome Vetrik and lovesvintage! I hope your stay here is short!

Lovesvintage, www.fertilityfriend.com is a great resource of information on fertility and charting. I also highly recommend the book Taking Charge of Your Fertiliy.

I just did some googling of cervix position. It seems that it''s not a reliable indicator of pregnancy because it doesn''t go from low and firm for every pregnant woman immediately. What I can''t find is if another reason it''s unreliable is because it''s possible/common for your cp to go from lf to hs even if you''re not pregnant. Just wondering. Not cause I''m obsessing during the 2ww or anything...
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mmm. I don't know Robbie, but mine was VERY high up until yesterday (when I got my BFP ironically). Yesterday and today it's definitely lower. I give it a Medium, closed and firm.

ETA: Juuuuuuust went to check for you again (at work!!!) and it's med-high. I def had to root a little to get there. It was certainly not low like it normally would be 14DPO.
 
Mela, it actually changes throughout the day for most people which is why you''re supposed to check it at the same time every day. I''ve been checking mine at the same time every day (okay and maybe a few other times too, but I only record the first time which is done at my normal time) and it''s been low and firm until this morning when it was medium and medium. I checked a little bit ago and it was definitely soft and high, so I''m thinking it might be on its way up...
 
Loves Vintage You don''t have to chart and take your temp and everything else
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The old fashioned way works great too! LOL! If you are interested and have time, lots of people have enjoyed reading through the thread from the start to get a feel for stuff. Fertility Friend and the book Robbie recommended are also great. But really, DON''T feel that all this technical stuff is a requirement to be a part of this group! The only things you really need to know are "I''m in my fertile phase" which would mean you are actively trying to get preggo, and "I am in the two week wait/knitting club" which is the time where you are waiting for your period to arrive!

That said, charting is really useful when you want to feel some control over the whole process, and it can decrease the time it takes to conceive, which is why most people who start out saying, "I''m gonna take it easy..." usually start charting after a month without getting KTFU (knocked the F up!)

Good luck!

vetrik good luck to you too! Sorry about the ectopic but you are so lucky it was caught early! I hope your eggo sticks in the right place this time!
 
Thanks Mela, Robbie and Dreamer!

I just really don't want to psyche myself out by thinking about it too much!!! But, then I peeked in this thread, and then freaked out at my lack of knowledge. Maybe I'll do a little more reading, but not start charting right away and see how things go.

I really firmly believe that I can get pregnant and that I will!! That has to count for something, right?

I worry to some extent, that if time passes, and I'm not, that I will stress too much about it. I worry about worrying, really. I am a classic worrier. See, I'm worried I'll worry even when I firmly believe I have nothing to worry about!!!
 
Welcome Loves Vintage and Vetrik!

LV, you could try the course that fertility friend offers, it breaks down the info. very easily and makes reading this thread much more understandable (it''s not really a course, just different info. with a few review questions at the end of each). I''m new around here too, and I found it really helpful!

I just wanted to say thanks to Fisher for posting as much as you did about your CF! I have a feeling I''ve been confusing mine, and I''m definitely going to have to pay a LOT more attention to what I thought was EW!

I''m still waiting, although now I really don''t know whether it''s the 2ww or just waiting for AF, but if it''s for AF, it could show up anytime here. And I''m also sick. The sore throat, runny yet stuffed up nose, and achy body sick that just makes me want to crawl into bed and sleep for a week but also feel like a baby since it''s just a cold sick =(.
 
welcome loves vintage and vetrik - our lingo can be a little overwhelming for sure! but we''re all happy to explain just what we''re talking about. also, to echo DD, you definitely don''t have to take the charting/temping approach to TTC - you''re more than welcome here regardless of your approach!!

sabine: don''t feel like a baby - i always think that colds are the worst kind of sick. sick enough to feel miserable, but not sick enough to stay in bed all day
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feel better soon!
 
Welcome to the new ladies!

This is a shorty, since I''m going to do some actual work today. *gasp*!

Sabine, hope you feel better!
 
Date: 9/10/2008 4:22:28 PM
Author: Loves Vintage
Thanks Mela, Robbie and Dreamer!

I just really don''t want to psyche myself out by thinking about it too much!!! But, then I peeked in this thread, and then freaked out at my lack of knowledge. Maybe I''ll do a little more reading, but not start charting right away and see how things go.

I really firmly believe that I can get pregnant and that I will!! That has to count for something, right?

I worry to some extent, that if time passes, and I''m not, that I will stress too much about it. I worry about worrying, really. I am a classic worrier. See, I''m worried I''ll worry even when I firmly believe I have nothing to worry about!!!
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It''s not a requirement that you chart!

Most of us like to because a) we like to be as in control as possible, b) you learn how your body works which is kind of fascinating, c) you know where you are in your cycle and have a better chance of DTD at the right time and therefore getting KTFU! Did I mention we''re all control freaks - and some of us have POAS addictions too!
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I''m 36 and didn''t want to risk faffing about for x number of months as your fertility starts to drop off pretty rapidly after 35 (Indy Gal had some stats somewhere in the thread). I needed to maximise any chance I had every month.

I got my BFP on my first cycle charting with temps - and first full cycle of TTC. Now just keeping FX that it''s a healthy and sticky one!
 
Ebree and DD, thanks for the information. Yes, I'm going to just not put CM on the FF chart now. It makes me a little sad that I can't figure it out, kind of like I'm the slow kid in class.
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Plus, I thought knowing about CM was super important for long cyclers, since longer cycles have a harder time figuring out when to BD. Hmph.

Sabine, I hope you have better luck figuring out your CM than I have had.
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I really wasn't going to do that at all, until I learned that it's important to do for longer cyclers. Maybe I'll get it down one of these days.

I'm kind of in a funk today because I was so happy to have thought that I was ovulating and now I don't know. It also kind of stinks that if I did ovulate yesterday or the day before, my little egg has no chance of getting tangled up with a sperm, since last night was the first time we BD since I thought I ovulated.

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Hey wait a minute, now that I've taken out all CM completely from my charting, FF is leaving the 9/2/2008 date as my O day, so far. The line is dashed now (maybe because I don't have CM listed to back it up?), but it's not taking that away, either, and I tried a few combinations of temps for tomorrow (should it rise or hover where it is now) and it didn't predict a new ovulation date for me. So hmm...

Yesterday it predicted that I ovulated yesterday when I put that I had EW.

I'm not messing with that CM business anymore. I'm leaving it up to the temps. I can't mess that up (now that I know where to put the dang thing in my mouth!).

Welcome to the new posters. I hope you learn a lot here; I sure have!

Pandora, what does Fx mean?
 
Date: 9/10/2008 6:02:12 PM
Author: fisherofmengirly
Ebree and DD, thanks for the information. Yes, I'm going to just not put CM on the FF chart now. It makes me a little sad that I can't figure it out, kind of like I'm the slow kid in class.
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Not at all Fisher! I told you, it took me three cycles to really figure it out! I think its ag ood plan to leave the CF off the chart, but I totally recommend that you keep assessing it and record it somewhere. Eventually, it will make sense... like I said, took me three months..and if you need a few more months to get KTFU then knowing your CF may really help one day!
 
I so hope you caught the egg Fisher!

Fx = fingers crossed!
 
Haha, Pandora. I totally thought Fx was like "fetus diagnosis" or "prescription for making a baby."

I totally have the TTC shorthand on my mind, that's for sure.


This is such an emotional whirlwind. I totally thought my ovulation had shifted to another day. I'd put all thoughts of even thinking of peeing on a stick way out of my mind, too. Now I'm back to thinking maybe I did ovulate on day 19. I wish I just *knew* that I do ovulate. That would be such a wonderful thing!!

This is insane, people. Insane! There should be a group out there "My name is Jen and I'm a baby making and charting and stressing and worrying addict." I'd attend faithfully.

Robbie, where is the Q&A section on FF? I can't find it.
 
Fisher, click the community tab. Experts will answer your questions in the VIP Question thread. It definitely took me a while to get the hang of CM and it still trips me up a bit sometimes. Hang in there, you''ll get it!

The consensus seems to be that cp doesn''t mean anything post-o so you should stop charting it.
 
Date: 9/10/2008 6:58:59 PM
Author: robbie3982
Fisher, click the community tab. Experts will answer your questions in the VIP Question thread. It definitely took me a while to get the hang of CM and it still trips me up a bit sometimes. Hang in there, you''ll get it!

The consensus seems to be that cp doesn''t mean anything post-o so you should stop charting it.
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I had high, firm, closed both this month and last, and almost no CM after O both times. It was one of the reasons I was so sure I was out - everyone else was talking about gallons and gallons of CM and I had practically zilch and not just externally....

When are you testing next Robbie? I keep checking to see if you or Peony have any news. Isn''t there someone else about to start testing too? Sorry if I missed you out.

I so want to see some more BFPs for May babies!
 
If my chart stays the same, I'll probably take a test next week sometime. If I did ovulate, I'm 8 days post ovulation now.

Paul is a May baby; I think it would be cute if his birthday came in the beginning of the month and a baby's came at the end.

Trying not to be too hopeful, though. I think my cycle and chart this go round is "wonky!"
 
Let me ask this: if I was marking my CM wrong (and I probably was), is it odd that my temp. cycle alone has concluded the same as the date for ovulation that FF chose, based on CM and temps combined?

Would that imply that maybe I'm having two types of CM at the same time when I do ovulate?

Or is this just a hokey coincidence?

Just for reference, here is my chart, as of today. All that's changed is that now I have dashed lines for my O day, since it is based only on temps now.

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fisher, I dunno about the CM, but that chart looks like a textbook ovulation (19) and an implantation dip 6 days later...
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Fisher your chart is looking really good. If your temps stay up above the cover line (at least most of the time) then it is a nice ovulation chart! Many people talk about dips being 1 day, but you may have a different pattern this month, where your temps slowly dipped and then climbed again, who knows?

As for the CF, it is possible that for you when you are fertile you have watery mixed with that jelly CF. Everyone is different! Also, many women have EWCF and since it is so slippery it just slides out when they tinkle and they don't ever notice it! So yes, if the temps for the rest of this week prove that you ovulated, then you can look back and say, "Hmmm what type of CF did I have when I was approaching ovulation?" Then if you didn't happen to catch the egg this month, next month you will have a better idea what to look for! The general descriptions of CF are just guidelines, every woman is a little different, that's why there is a steep learning curve the first month or two, as you are seeing first hand
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I have my FX that your temps stay up for another 2-3 days, then it will be clear that you ovulated beyond a doubt and won't that be nice to know?
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I would be elated. Giddy. Almost insanely happy.
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By the way, cute baby belly pic in the other thread, DD. Time flies. You''re already into trimester two.
 
Date: 9/10/2008 8:11:30 PM
Author: fisherofmengirly
I would be elated. Giddy. Almost insanely happy.
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By the way, cute baby belly pic in the other thread, DD. Time flies. You''re already into trimester two.
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Well its looking good! That''s why the first month is so hard... because its only really after 2/3 of the month is over that you have a good idea what is going on!

Yup, well into the second tri. I don''t know about "cute" yet, maybe in a few weeks when it stops looking like a spare tire
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But thanks!
 
Haha, DD. Mine will be the same way, only bigger. But I''m gonna call it pretty and cute no matter what. There''s something *special* in there and it''s cute, dang it!!

I looked at some of the pictures others have posted on other forums of their newly preggo tummies, and golly, it''s so different for each woman how a baby is carried, how quickly they show, etc.

Funny how it''s all the same "junk" that makes a baby come into being, but it evolves so very differently each time, as far as what you see physically.

One woman, having I think baby number 5 or something got HUGE so fast. It was like a 12 week picture and I totally would have guessed about 7 months. Wow!
 
Date: 9/10/2008 8:27:03 PM
Author: fisherofmengirly
One woman, having I think baby number 5 or something got HUGE so fast. It was like a 12 week picture and I totally would have guessed about 7 months. Wow!
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I saw that one too
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Very odd, since the uterus is still small at that stage!
 
Pandora, I''m testing on Sunday if AFF hasn''t shown up and my temp is still up. That will be either 10 or 12 dpo. My avg LP is 11 days. Out of 9 charted LPs (couldn''t determine the LP on the last one since I missed key dates around O), 4 were 10 days, 3 were 11 and 2 were 12, so, if I am 12 dpo, I would most likely have a temp drop or AF by then. I''m really leaning towards the earlier O date because of when my cramping and breast tenderness started this cycle. It''s earlier than it''s ever been.
 
Pandora, here is where I''m at. Test this morning with an internet cheapie was negative. Every time I go to the bathroom, it''s SO nervewracking!
 
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That''s a nice looking chart Peony. Good luck!
 
Just a quick note for Fisher before bed: According to Justisse/Creighton methods and my RE, any CM that is clear, stretchy, or lubricative is fertile CM. Whether it stretches 1/4", 1/2" or 1" or more, it''s all EWCM according to them. EWCM can have white streaks in it, and I definitely have some that''s sort of clear but gummy if that makes sense, and it''ll stretch 1". Usually I end up with a couple days where I''ve got the real great EWCM everyone hear talks about, the stuff that''s copious, clear, stretches inches, and is slippery as he!! when you''re wiping. Some months I don''t get much of that at all. At any rate, I think yours sounds hopeful for being fertile CM.

Peony - GL!

Mela - congrats! I''m jealous (obviously), but happy you were right!
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I had another temp drop today. I sure hope I get a BFP anyhow...
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