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The jury is in: Ebay diamond under Ideal-Scope!

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diamondseeker2006

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Drew, we''re glad that you''ve decided to take the refund! You sound like you have a very special girlfriend, and I know you want to get her a great ring! Please let us know if we can help you find a diamond. We love to help!
 

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Date: 1/24/2009 12:12:03 AM
Author: drewbot


Date: 1/23/2009 7:04:16 PM
Author: arjunajane

Drew, I''m sorry but this is frustrating to watch.
These stones are not even worth $750, if infact that is what''s happening (its difficult to understand your post)..
This whole thing sounds like a total waste of time - and I for one don''t know anyone who has time and money to waste..
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I sincerely hope you are not planning on presenting one to your GF - because I don''t like your chances.

I''m sorry, I''m not trying to be harsh or offend you, but it seems we are not getting through to you with politeness
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Wow! So many good comments. I had to quote just yours arjunajane! You don''t understand me very well- I will try to explain!

First, as for the other comments comments

(1) he is offering a 50% refund for me to keep the nasty things and I am planning on returning them for 100% refund tomorrow!
(2) i would never present one of these horrible things to my girlfriend, although she would accept anything (amazing girl, truely)

I admit that I was dead wrong: the market value is not gauged by asking prices found online somewhere. True market value is what a marginal purchaser would pay for the things. Well I did a pawn shop tour today and found out what the marginal purchaser would pay. The answer? Well, it''s pretty much nothing. I couldn''t pay someone to take the thing! In fact, I learned more about diamonds! I found that the top view of the diamond tells only a fraction of the story. The girdle is thicker on one side than the other. It also has edges on it that don''t look right. One jeweler thought it was a miner''s cut. One clever jeweler figured out how it was repaired and I think he is right. Nonetheless, to the naked eye you may be able to trick the marginal K-mart romantic... but sitting against any decent rock there is no life in it.

And arjunajane- I can easily understand your perspective, but I will try to explain. I''m the type who owns an old volkswagon diesel. The type who makes things unnecessarily difficult. It''s raining out, and my VW is in pieces- I''m taking apart my turbo and rebuilding the engine.. It''s pointless- I can buy 3 good working cars for the price of rebuilding everything in my old VW, and at the same time avoid riding my motorcyle in the rain every day. I suppose I get some sort of sick satisfaction out of the journey- I even pay for it in time and money.

The $2300 ring that I bought for my girlfriend last year - well I got no satisfaction out of it. I gave it to her and it sparkled away- it did the job, and all I had to do was to foot the bill. She loved it, and I love her, so we''re all happy... but... this time around I''m getting a high out of the whole procedure. In fact, I can''t figure out a better way to make the ring itself special, not just the meaning behind it. We already have the most special relationship, and my girlfriend would easily accept a CZ- or just a band- but I want to get her a ring and I''m not going to pay someone to make it ''special'' for me. If this doesn''t make sense, then I don''t blame you... but I never claimed to be sensible.

And let me reiterate how grateful I am of you folks looking out for my well-being by giving me excellent advice and opinions. There comes a time when one must tally up the losses, hedge their risks and start focusing on the finish line- I admit that time had probably come about, oh, the day I recieved the Flea-bay diamond in the mail- perhaps, though, there is yet still hope for me.
And isn''t that what matters? Any girl that proudly wears the ring that her fiance gaver her, no matter how visually unpleasant it is to others, is a true keeper! She is proud of her rock, goshdarnit, and she doesn''t care what people think! It''s beautiful to HER.

Honestly, your lopsided stone is kinda growing on me. It rebels against what a lot of PS''ers consider "normal" or "ideal". Almost to the point where it''s confidently shocking, like it''s saying, "I know I''m disfigured. But I STILL look good!" Haha...
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Can you post more pics of it without the idealscope before you return it?
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Date: 1/24/2009 12:16:19 AM
Author: diamondseeker2006
Drew, we're glad that you've decided to take the refund! You sound like you have a very special girlfriend, and I know you want to get her a great ring! Please let us know if we can help you find a diamond. We love to help!
Ditto, and cheers Drew for explaining yourself, it does make more sense now. I respect your "thrill of the journey" perspective (even if I don't approve
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), and it sounds like you have a great r'ship.
Thats why I think it would be nice to have en equally great ring to symbolize it, is all.
Good luck, and pls ask if you decide you need help to buy another.
 

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Hey Drewbot, I like you! (could be partial cause I have a son Drew) Thanks for the entertainment and good luck with your search!
 

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Date: 1/23/2009 7:12:57 PM
Author: Dancing Fire
i dare any of ya girls here to wear is stone for one month,and during that month show it off to your co workers and friends,also tell them that your hubby or your bf bought you this beautiful diamond ring. hmmm...wonder what kind of reactions/comments you will receive?
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What would people really say? I wouldn't dare tell any girl to her face that her stone is hideous, I'd just say "congratulations!" and leave it at that. She might be attached to the stone because her great grandma was wearing it when she survived the Titanic or something like that. Or the poor girl might not even know that there can be something better out there, and the poor guy who gives her the stone may be just as ignorant and unlike drew, he can't get his money back.
 

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I snapped a coupel of pics without idealscope.. from the side. Forgot to get a top shot but.. well...

Enjoy!!!
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Gypsy

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WOW. wow. WOW.

Seriously that is one fugly rock.
 

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Date: 1/24/2009 4:26:31 PM
Author: drewbot
I snapped a coupel of pics without idealscope.. from the side. Forgot to get a top shot but.. well...

Enjoy!!!
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Awwwwww!!!
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Thank you for posting more pics, Drew. For some reason, the name Lopsie comes to my mind. It''s okay little fella. Don''t be shy...
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Can I give him a hug?
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* wipes eyes*....Thanks for the giggle Drew - nice symmetry!!!
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Date: 1/24/2009 4:29:48 PM
Author: Gypsy
WOW. wow. WOW.

Seriously that is one fugly rock.

You hurt his feelings...
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Date: 1/24/2009 4:34:28 PM
Author: Lorelei
* wipes eyes*....Thanks for the giggle Drew - nice symmetry!!!
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ROFL!
 

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Date: 1/24/2009 4:34:54 PM
Author: platinumrock

Date: 1/24/2009 4:29:48 PM
Author: Gypsy
WOW. wow. WOW.

Seriously that is one fugly rock.

You hurt his feelings...
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He hurt my eyes!

Lopsie, huh? I''m still going for Fugly.
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Fly Girl

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Great photos of your pawn shop reject! Pretty much tells the tale. Especially love that scalloped girdle!
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Thank you so much for sharing your experiences and photos. Very educational.
 

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Date: 1/24/2009 4:39:08 PM
Author: Gypsy


Date: 1/24/2009 4:34:54 PM
Author: platinumrock



Date: 1/24/2009 4:29:48 PM
Author: Gypsy
WOW. wow. WOW.

Seriously that is one fugly rock.

You hurt his feelings...
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He hurt my eyes!

Lopsie, huh? I''m still going for Fugly.
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Fair enough
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Lopsie Fugs sounds about right. But I still love him!
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I think he only comes out at night though. Shhh....
 

platinumrock

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Date: 1/24/2009 4:26:31 PM
Author: drewbot
I snapped a coupel of pics without idealscope.. from the side. Forgot to get a top shot but.. well...

Enjoy!!!
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Drew, I''d love to see him face-up. I think I''m ready.
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Date: 1/24/2009 4:49:23 PM
Author: platinumrock

Date: 1/24/2009 4:39:08 PM
Author: Gypsy



Date: 1/24/2009 4:34:54 PM
Author: platinumrock




Date: 1/24/2009 4:29:48 PM
Author: Gypsy
WOW. wow. WOW.

Seriously that is one fugly rock.

You hurt his feelings...
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He hurt my eyes!

Lopsie, huh? I''m still going for Fugly.
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Fair enough
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Lopsie Fugs sounds about right. But I still love him!
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I think he only comes out at night though. Shhh....
Lopsie Fugs is very good. You love him, but what would you PAY for him?

*chortles* @ only comes out at night.
 

sparklestick

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This thread is so funny. That diamond is so awful I do feel very sprry for it.

Where do we think it could end up? What is the fate of the fugly rock?
 

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Date: 1/24/2009 5:32:18 PM
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This thread is so funny. That diamond is so awful I do feel very sprry for it.

Where do we think it could end up? What is the fate of the fugly rock?
Maybe for the tip of an industrial drill bit???
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This diamond wins the ugliest diamond on PS award.
 

platinumrock

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Date: 1/24/2009 5:08:20 PM
Author: Gypsy



Date: 1/24/2009 4:49:23 PM
Author: platinumrock




Date: 1/24/2009 4:39:08 PM
Author: Gypsy






Date: 1/24/2009 4:34:54 PM
Author: platinumrock







Date: 1/24/2009 4:29:48 PM
Author: Gypsy
WOW. wow. WOW.

Seriously that is one fugly rock.

You hurt his feelings...
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He hurt my eyes!

Lopsie, huh? I''m still going for Fugly.
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Fair enough
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Lopsie Fugs sounds about right. But I still love him!
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I think he only comes out at night though. Shhh....
Lopsie Fugs is very good. You love him, but what would you PAY for him?

*chortles* @ only comes out at night.

*Hangs her head in shame*
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Sorry, Fugs. I love you but I wouldn''t pay for you.
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It''s not you...it''s me.
 

Dancing Fire

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...who would waste the time to cut this stone?
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Noahsmom

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I think I had a rabbit named Lopsy Fugs when I was a kid.
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Harriet

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Whoa. Drew, good on you for keeping a sense of humour.
 

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Date: 1/24/2009 7:09:49 PM
Author: platinumrock
Date: 1/24/2009 5:08:20 PM

Author: Gypsy




Date: 1/24/2009 4:49:23 PM

Author: platinumrock





Date: 1/24/2009 4:39:08 PM

Author: Gypsy







Date: 1/24/2009 4:34:54 PM

Author: platinumrock








Date: 1/24/2009 4:29:48 PM

Author: Gypsy

WOW. wow. WOW.


Seriously that is one fugly rock.


You hurt his feelings...
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He hurt my eyes!


Lopsie, huh? I''m still going for Fugly.
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Fair enough
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Lopsie Fugs sounds about right. But I still love him!
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I think he only comes out at night though. Shhh....

Lopsie Fugs is very good. You love him, but what would you PAY for him?



*chortles* @ only comes out at night.


*Hangs her head in shame*
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Sorry, Fugs. I love you but I wouldn''t pay for you.
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It''s not you...it''s me.

Okay Platinum - now you have to come over and clean up my laptop - you just made me spit Diet Coke all over the screen!!!!!

Lopsie Fugs Lopsie Fugs Lopsie Fugs Lopsie Fugs Lopsie Fugs Lopsie Fugs!!!

- Jodie -
 

arjunajane

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Whoa, that thing is gonna be in my nightmares
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This thread has been very funny.
 

platinumrock

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Date: 1/24/2009 10:30:07 PM
Author: mausketeer


Date: 1/24/2009 7:09:49 PM
Author: platinumrock


Date: 1/24/2009 5:08:20 PM

Author: Gypsy






Date: 1/24/2009 4:49:23 PM

Author: platinumrock







Date: 1/24/2009 4:39:08 PM

Author: Gypsy









Date: 1/24/2009 4:34:54 PM

Author: platinumrock










Date: 1/24/2009 4:29:48 PM

Author: Gypsy

WOW. wow. WOW.


Seriously that is one fugly rock.


You hurt his feelings...
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He hurt my eyes!


Lopsie, huh? I''m still going for Fugly.
3.gif


Fair enough
11.gif



Lopsie Fugs sounds about right. But I still love him!
emlove.gif
I think he only comes out at night though. Shhh....

Lopsie Fugs is very good. You love him, but what would you PAY for him?



*chortles* @ only comes out at night.


*Hangs her head in shame*
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Sorry, Fugs. I love you but I wouldn''t pay for you.
face14.gif



It''s not you...it''s me.

Okay Platinum - now you have to come over and clean up my laptop - you just made me spit Diet Coke all over the screen!!!!!

Lopsie Fugs Lopsie Fugs Lopsie Fugs Lopsie Fugs Lopsie Fugs Lopsie Fugs!!!

- Jodie -

Sorry, Jodie! I''ll help you clean up your laptop if you promise to post more pics of your M
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platinumrock

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And Drew, I hope you don''t take offense to our banter about your stone. You seem to have a great sense of humor. This is the most fun I''ve had in a thread. I really do adore your stone, and I hope you''ll keep it. Its uniqueness is what makes it beautiful.

I will miss Lopsie Fugs if you have to send him back.
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Garry H (Cut Nut)

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Date: 1/24/2009 9:50:32 PM
Author: Dancing Fire
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...who would waste the time to cut this stone?
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IT PROBABLY DID'NT TAKE LONG?
Thanks Drew. It serves as a warning to many thousands of people who search things like "is it safe to by a diamond on ebay"
you will note that on many such searches that Pricescope comes up very high, so what your contriibution does is shows that the buyers in droves will be more aware.

It also makes a mockery of all the vendors who say they cant take a photograph thru an ideal-scope, which is code often for "this is a really nice diamond, why don't you trust me?"

thanks, and thanks for you good nature
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