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ryan2145

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Alright, so I decided to take a chance and buy a canary diamond engagement ring for my girlfriend. She has mentioned that she likes yellow diamonds but I doubt she expects that I will actually get one for her. I was wondering what you all thought of my choices. Here is the diamond:

http://www.diamondsbylauren.com/ind...w-if-oval-shape-gia-internally-flawless-r4928

It's a fancy light yellow which should look more yellow in the setting which will be partially set in yellow gold. I was not particularly looking for an IF diamond but I just really liked the look of this one and the price seemed reasonable. I love ovals for some reason.

Here is the setting I chose:

http://www.diamondsbylauren.com/ind...-with-single-or-full-cut-diamond-melee-so3956

To me, this setting just gives the impression that whoever made it took their time. Everything fits and looks clean. I had the choice of full cut or single cut and I was told that full cut was recommended since this is not an antique style ring. In the pictures, I have to say I like single cut more but I've never seen them in person so I just went along with the recommendation. So anyway, I was wondering what you all think. I'm a bit nervous because I know this isn't a conventional engagement ring. But, I'm pretty sure she will love it.
 
Can't wait to see it... BEAUTIFUL!!! :love:
 
oh its going to be gorgeous!!! I love your oval diamond and that setting is spectacular! I've seen their rings in person and have a thread on my visit to NYC/DBL with a lot of shots of his pieces - they are beautifully made!! Your GF/FFI will love it!!

Congratulations!
 
Love :love:
 
Beautiful!!! She will be speachless. Great choice!
 
Wow, I didn't expect there would be so many responses so quickly. Thank you!
 
I personally really like the diamond you chose. The FLY colors are my preference over the FIYs. :appl:

However, with the setting instead of DBL I would go with ERD (engagement rings direct). If you are going to do a CAD/ CAST version of a HW halo I think they do a much better job. For some reason I think the DBL version looks cheap. I know they have different levels of bench people and you pay according to that level. His Uber settings seem much nicer. Still for giggles I would get a quote from ERD. They are also in NY.
 
Single cuts are less blingy - more glinty. I think full cuts would be better with your diamond, otherwise the setting might look dull compared to your modern cut diamond. Very pretty diamond choice!
 
I think what you have chosen is beautiful.

Have you purchased this ring yet or are you looking for input?

... If I were you I would be certain that my girlfriend wanted a yellow diamond. They're quite popular right now and there is a big difference between saying, "ooh that yellow diamond is beautiful" and "I want a fancy yellow engagement ring".

While I love fancy yellow stones I don't want one as my "forever engagement ring". I prefer something more classic... Likely a colorless round.
 
I think the diamond looks stunning. The pattern is very pretty and I love the color.

My only thoughts are that since it is a more elongated oval - would it look funny in a halo. This is going to sound awkward but with big marquise that are elongated and set in halos ... I often find they resemble a certain female body part.

I haven't recommended GOG for custom settings in the past but a recent post got me thinking. I think it is worth getting a quote as well from them.
[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/avc-cushion-with-custom-gog-setting.185901/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/avc-cushion-with-custom-gog-setting.185901/[/URL]

I also haven't recommended Mark Broumand in the past but Athenaworth's setting is stunning. Worth looking into.
[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/im-feeling-fly-gets-me-every-time.185066/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/im-feeling-fly-gets-me-every-time.185066/[/URL]
 
I think it'll be beautiful!!! The oval doesn't seem too skinny that a halo would look odd. It looks the perfect proportion to the HW oval halos I have seen. If you go with DBL for the setting I would def go with his uber bench if you can swing it! What is your budget for the setting?
 
To answer some of your questions and ask some of my own:

-I know my GF would like a yellow diamond engagement ring because when I took her to check out some rings, should put a yellow diamond halo on and she lit up. She really loved it. I asked her if she would like a ring like that more than a traditional one and she said she was 50/50. So she is just leaving everything up to me.

-I ordered the diamond and setting but haven't wired the money yet. I'm not looking to order something else unless something I see tonight blows me away and even then, I would discuss it with Davit at DBL first. David has been great.

-I looked at some of your suggestions for the setting but I didn't see anything I liked more than DBL's Uber hand designed mount except for the Mark Broumond design and I think it is because of the details around the cup. I will talk to DBL and maybe see if they can do the same type of thing.

-What is the "Uber bench" by DBL? I looked and I can't find the design you are suggesting.

Thanks for all of your comments and suggestions!
 
DBL has a couple benches (people that make the rings). His uber bench is the high end bench that does custom work - the only one I would consider. I am not fond of the work coming out of his lower end benches. The prices of the custom hand work is higher than his cheaper benches. Personally, I find the pave work on the pictures of the link you posted above to have too much metal for me. I much prefer the work pave work of Leon Mege, Steven Kirsch, Victor Canera and Mike Robinson. But they also come with a higher price tag. With all that said, you are tied to DBL so proceed .... just ask for the uber bench and not the other ones.
 
I mentioned this in another post, but I would highly recommend doing an one gallery so you an have a flush fit wedding band. The space will drive your girlfriend crazy. Or you have to make the wedding band cup the bottom.

I admire e French Pavé done in cad. Nice choice! Go with 1.3mm melee f g melee if you want a stark contrast or h i j melee if you want a slight tint in the side stones. Stick with vs or above.
 
Throwing another design option out here. Saw it over at Show me the Bling.

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I really like this diamond, the color is uniform throughout. You did good!
 
what a nice center stone!! The cut looks yummi!
It will look very very pretty and feminine :))
 
CharmyPoo|1361771009|3389740 said:
DBL has a couple benches (people that make the rings). His uber bench is the high end bench that does custom work - the only one I would consider. I am not fond of the work coming out of his lower end benches. The prices of the custom hand work is higher than his cheaper benches. Personally, I find the pave work on the pictures of the link you posted above to have too much metal for me. I much prefer the work pave work of Leon Mege, Steven Kirsch, Victor Canera and Mike Robinson. But they also come with a higher price tag. With all that said, you are tied to DBL so proceed .... just ask for the uber bench and not the other ones.
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I guess the reason I'm confused by your comment is that the link I posted is for the Uber Custom Made Halo already. That is the one I chose.
 
ryan2145|1361796681|3389833 said:
CharmyPoo|1361771009|3389740 said:
DBL has a couple benches (people that make the rings). His uber bench is the high end bench that does custom work - the only one I would consider. I am not fond of the work coming out of his lower end benches. The prices of the custom hand work is higher than his cheaper benches. Personally, I find the pave work on the pictures of the link you posted above to have too much metal for me. I much prefer the work pave work of Leon Mege, Steven Kirsch, Victor Canera and Mike Robinson. But they also come with a higher price tag. With all that said, you are tied to DBL so proceed .... just ask for the uber bench and not the other ones.
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I guess the reason I'm confused by your comment is that the link I posted is for the Uber Custom Made Halo already. That is the one I chose.
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hmmm. you are right. I just looked at the pictures and assumed it was his lower end bench. I usually thought the Uber settings were a bit nicer. The setting you linked too is showing too much metal. This will be even more apparent with a fancy colored diamond. Also it just lacks the delicate overall look a pave HW ring should have. Sorry but for that price tag I would pay the few hundred dollars more and get SK or VC or even LM to do a halo. Their's are by far superior to the one you posted. I personally have purchased a FLY from David so I know he is great to work with, but for an ering setting I would want the best. I would go with a pave master for the particular setting you chose.
 
fabulous stone the ring will be amazing! If you havent started the setting yet though i might try ERD. DBL makes lovely things its just Ive seen 2 people on here recently say there shanks split from the head with minimal force, and they charged like 1k to fix it. I just might be the slighted bit worried about there durability on shanks that thin :))

it is going to be just BEAUTIFUL! and an IF yellow diamond, now THATS going to be an impressive diamond
 
nielseel said:
fabulous stone the ring will be amazing! If you havent started the setting yet though i might try ERD. DBL makes lovely things its just Ive seen 2 people on here recently say there shanks split from the head with minimal force, and they charged like 1k to fix it. I just might be the slighted bit worried about there durability on shanks that thin :))

it is going to be just BEAUTIFUL! and an IF yellow diamond, now THATS going to be an impressive diamond
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Do you have links to these threads? I hadn't heard about these.

I don't know how this should be taken but David told me that his pave is delicate and it's normal for pave stones to fall out from time to time. While I believe this is true, it didn't rub me the right way for a vendor to tell me that his most popular design essentially can't be worn in day to day situations without expecting (somewhat minimal but still) damage and needing repair ($$$ as I have fancy colored melee)
 
Ms P|1361800394|3389855 said:
nielseel said:
fabulous stone the ring will be amazing! If you havent started the setting yet though i might try ERD. DBL makes lovely things its just Ive seen 2 people on here recently say there shanks split from the head with minimal force, and they charged like 1k to fix it. I just might be the slighted bit worried about there durability on shanks that thin :))

it is going to be just BEAUTIFUL! and an IF yellow diamond, now THATS going to be an impressive diamond
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Do you have links to these threads? I hadn't heard about these.

I don't know how this should be taken but David told me that his pave is delicate and it's normal for pave stones to fall out from time to time. While I believe this is true, it didn't rub me the right way for a vendor to tell me that his most popular design essentially can't be worn in day to day situations without expecting (somewhat minimal but still) damage and needing repair ($$$ as I have fancy colored melee)
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I don't think ANYONE on here with a pave' halo would recommend wearing it for things like the gym or gardening for fear of damage. Halo's no matter who makes them are NOT solitaires and not nearly as durable. I have a beautiful halo setting from Sareen.. I lost a stone in the bottom of the shank.. I sent it back he replaced it. I think David was being honest with you. When I purchased my halo from Tim at Emma Parker he said they will occasionally lose stones... it's delicate work with diamonds set in it.. and the look we all want is minimal metal.. what else is going to hold the diamond in... air? Heck.. I smashed my bezel setting walking through a door... just walking through.. that's it.. not staggering.. just in a rush in my house... dinged it good.. sent it back to ERD and they fixed it.. stuff happens. I also have a plain band I wear... because sometimes that is all you want or should wear.

The tone of this thread is sad... :(( this young man has picked out a lovely diamond (IMO and I'm a novice I know) but it's got a lovely color and beautiful saturation. He's found a setting he likes.. yes there are FABULOUS artists out there doing wonderful work and making suggestions is what is all about and I think that's awesome because the more informed the consumer the happier they will be with their final choice. But the latest post about damage.. who knows what happened to those rings.. maybe they thought they should work on the car in then... I can tell you.. the reason I have had a right hand ring that could pass as a wedding/engagement ring was so that when I didn't want to wear my halo.. I would have something blingy for that hand.

This is where on my thread working with DBL for my Emerald Cut I asked.. if I should throw some salt on the feedback... maybe Ryan should add some salt... :eek:

Again.. I've worked with a number of vendors on here... Whiteflash, Jewels by Erica Grace, ERD, and now David. I have found everyone to be pleasant, eager to please and very interested in keeping PSer's happy.

Somewhere on here there's a thread about a pave' halo settting where the poster/ower (and honestly I dont' remember who) had all three of the top names, I think with the same center stone and at different points noted they were not happy with certain aspects of each until the last one.. I don't remember.. sorry.. but everyone is different. For what's it's worth.. I love mine... Adam with Sareen is not one you see on here.. but he does lovely work.. but a bunch of people on here would never recommend him. He's a young talent... and a really nice guy... and his work is expensive.. in line with LM, SK and VC... Bottmo line.. the options are ENDLESS... be informed and feel you are getting great workmanship and customer service.
 
I am not trying to be negative, and I'm certain whichever vendor he chooses it will look lovely. I'll go find the post I was talking about, one will be easier to find than the other, but its worth mentioning to him so he is aware of what he is buying, good or bad. No reason to sweep it under the rug because I'm sure he wants a quality ring he doesn't have go sink money into. Not saying this would be the case, but its worth a warning.

And for what its worth the poster said all she did was have her hand squeezed by herbetween her FI legs
 
hmmm. you are right. I just looked at the pictures and assumed it was his lower end bench. I usually thought the Uber settings were a bit nicer. The setting you linked too is showing too much metal. This will be even more apparent with a fancy colored diamond. Also it just lacks the delicate overall look a pave HW ring should have. Sorry but for that price tag I would pay the few hundred dollars more and get SK or VC or even LM to do a halo. Their's are by far superior to the one you posted. I personally have purchased a FLY from David so I know he is great to work with, but for an ering setting I would want the best. I would go with a pave master for the particular setting you chose.
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I'm sorry but all the abbreviations you are using are completely lost on me. I literally did not know what the 4 C's were until a week ago.

Also, so I looked at posts discussing the Uber custom setting on Pricescope and everyone seems to like it except for in this thread so I'm not sure if it's just different people with different opinions or what. I guess it would help if I could see pictures of what "the delicate overall look a pave HW ring should have" if this isn't what it should look like. Thanks.
 
And of course PS just ate my post....... :roll:

Ryan, Sorry this will be a much shorter response as I just dont have the time to type out my response again!!! argh.

I will address the comment from the other poster and say I'm sorry if you feel we have been negative about this setting. I think you will find the more you look at HW (harry winston) inspired halos the more subtle differences you will see. This is a very hard ring to create, and when it is done well it is amazing. However, most aren't done well as pave is an art form. I have a HW inspired halo from VC (Victor Canera) and the differences between it and other HW halos I have seen is pretty much not even the same ball park. My point is if you are going to spend that kind of money on a setting I would want the best.

For anyone that is looking into an HW inspired halo I HIGHLY recommend reading Charmy's thread about the different designers that make them. I think you will find it helpful. Specifically look at the metal inbetween the pave and the the fluid lines of the rings struts/ shank and I think you will see what I'm talking about.

[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/cushion-101-my-experience-in-making-a-harry-winston-halo.183473/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/cushion-101-my-experience-in-making-a-harry-winston-halo.183473/[/URL]

And for reference
FIY- Fancy Intense yellow
FLY- Fancy Light yellow
VC- Pave Master in LA
LM- Pave Master in NYC
SK- Pave Master in NYC

And for reference here is a link to a HW inspired halo by SK, see the difference between this and the one you posted. You can barely see the metal showing. It has a much more refined looked etc.
http://www.timelessluxury.net/cr-034.htm
 
HI Everyone!
Please allow me to clarify, to the best of my ability:
1) lost stones from micro pave rings: Here's what a tell our potential clients. Any ring with micro pave- made by ANYONE ( including every single manufacturer mentioned on this page)- has a possibility of loosing one or more micro pave stones during wear. In a well made, hand forged ring, this should only occur during heavy wear, but when you have 50 or more diamonds set into a halo and shank, there is a possibility of loosing one.
Our clients are protected, as we guarantee our rings for life.
Many sellers, when trying to sell something, will NOT to bring up a potential liability. But I feel it's VERY important to discuss this with a person before they buy.
2) If a ring does break: If it's our policy to repair for free if it's our fault. In most cases, stress is the cause of a problem.
We had a freak occurrence of a broken ring recently- I initially believed ( before seeing the ring) that it was due to heavy wear. We quoted $1000 to build an entirely new $3800 ring to fix it. When I saw the damage, although there had to have been some stress, we felt that there may have been a faulty weld. We made a new ring for the person, at no charge. This was the ONLY time we've ever seen this.

3) how much metal does a ring show: Since we use multiple ACTUAL untouched super close up photos of our rings, you can see pretty much everything. We use a variety of extruded wire gauges to achieve different effects.
Our 1.8mm wire can be ( and is at times) made to show as little metal as any other maker of this style.
To the OP_ sorry for any confusion- you and I have discussed an "Uber" ring

As a general note: We suggest to all consumers that it's best buying the ring and diamond together.
The OP has no risk here of ending up with something they don't love here- as the entire custom made Uber ring, and diamond, are covered by a money back guarantee.
 
ryan2145|1361806210|3389921 said:
hmmm. you are right. I just looked at the pictures and assumed it was his lower end bench. I usually thought the Uber settings were a bit nicer. The setting you linked too is showing too much metal. This will be even more apparent with a fancy colored diamond. Also it just lacks the delicate overall look a pave HW ring should have. Sorry but for that price tag I would pay the few hundred dollars more and get SK or VC or even LM to do a halo. Their's are by far superior to the one you posted. I personally have purchased a FLY from David so I know he is great to work with, but for an ering setting I would want the best. I would go with a pave master for the particular setting you chose.
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I'm sorry but all the abbreviations you are using are completely lost on me. I literally did not know what the 4 C's were until a week ago.

Also, so I looked at posts discussing the Uber custom setting on Pricescope and everyone seems to like it except for in this thread so I'm not sure if it's just different people with different opinions or what. I guess it would help if I could see pictures of what "the delicate overall look a pave HW ring should have" if this isn't what it should look like. Thanks.
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I think it will bevery lovely, my concern was mostly with durablility, not quality of craftsmenship. Many of the people posting here have very high end benches make there settings, so they are used to those. this does not mean your girlfriend wouldnt love the setting youve chosen.
this post has a lovely version of it that i think looks nice. I just worry about those super thin bands (with ANY vendor)
[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/yellow-diamond-was-a-hit.185761/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/yellow-diamond-was-a-hit.185761/[/URL]
 
Ryan,

I think it will be a beautiful ring! I love yellow diamonds too. She is a lucky girl!!
 
Sarabear nailed it for me. I saw the photos of the DBL setting you linked and the quality was not there for me so I assumed it was his lower end bench. If this is his uber bench, then I don't know what to say ... I guess it is not what I expected.

Yes, each person is happy with different things and see different thngs. I guess I don't see why you wouldn't go to a tried and true for this type of setting if you are paying the same price or maybe even less? Read this thread for someone's experience in her reset.
[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/introducing-my-new-steven-kirsch-reset.185931/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/introducing-my-new-steven-kirsch-reset.185931/[/URL]

Mayk - I would happily recommend new vendors but I just don't know or have any experience with Sareen's work. I have frequently recommended local benches or others that I have tried out. I also recommend folks where I have seen a few examples of where they have proven to do good work.

DBL - I am always turned off when a vendor comes in and posts on consumer based discussions especially when we are discussing one of your rings. Yes, all pave rings are at risk of losing pave but the quality of work determines how frequently pave is lost. I have not had issues with my pave rings and I would be bothered as heck if I have to keep sending it back to put melee in - it is simply not convenient even if the vendor does it for free. I recently purchased a pave platinum setting off ebay that has 3 missing melee and I examined the work and see why.

Also, you may recommend using the same vendor for the diamond and settings. There are many people who have great successes using different vendors for diamonds and settings. I like to take my business to the professionals that are best at their job. The only reason I would keep at one vendor would be for convenience or a price break or simply that vendor is the best at both things.

In the end, Ryan can do whatever he wants and he can take whatever advice he wants. There is no skin off any of our backs. We will not wear this ring and likely never see this ring. None of us makes a cent from any of the vendors so we literally have no skin in the game. We are just here to help you achieve the best ring / outcome possible based on what you want.

If you are happy with your choice and just want validation - Show Me the Bling is a better forum for it. Rocky Talky is usually for people looking for feedback.

I am also super confused why there are a few vendors participating in this thread including one I have not seen before. Something is awfully fishy to me about this thread.
 
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