Super Ideal Proportions
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It might or might not. Gia rounding is one consideration.
If an ASET/IS confirms great performance then yes, it might perform like a "super ideal", but without those images we don't know. It's more likely that an unbranded AGS 000 will perform like a super ideal vs a gia XXX
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Example. Non branded gia stone that WF has on their PS line. It's gia xxx, proportions look good and ASET/IS look good. To me, this looks pretty damn good.
https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-4107653.htm
https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-4107653.htm
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Edit, this one looks solid as well.
https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-4107649.htm
But you need these advanced images to know for sure
https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-4107649.htm
But you need these advanced images to know for sure
That does look like a great option. With that said, why would someone not go with that over a super ideal that costs more?
The thing that confuses me a little, is that if proportions are what dictate performance, why wouldn't each diamond be expected to perform well if it's cut within certain parameters?
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Because of rounding. There are no *exact* numbers on gia certs. That's what you need advanced images. I don't know what the cost difference would be between the one I posted and one with similar performance from the ACA line, so can't say what someone would choose or why.
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But Broadly speaking, stones are expected to perform well if within certain parameters.
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It certainly could perform well.
With super ideal vendors, you get in stock and vetted stones, excellent customer service, better upgrade policies and with CBI for example, 80% buy back policy. (I’m not sure what other vendors have generous buy back policies...likely most of them and I know Victor Canera does because someone recently posted about it).
AGS is better for light return imagery. Etc.
Believe me, when I upgraded my diamond studs with Blue Nile, it took (I can’t remember exactly) like 1-2 months of daily searching to find a pair with ideal specs (of course, it is harder with pairs). I was stuck with blue Nile and had to pay double, so I was prepared to search for a while, when a pair finally popped up and was only $12.00 more than double.
It’s just so much easier to call WF or HPD or BG and the older I get, the more I am willing to pay the extra to not have to work hard to find a diamond.... you just decide on a budget and about what you want and what you are willing to give on and you can get a diamond today. In my last purchase with HPD/CBI it took all of ten minutes to get a diamond.
But yes, searching a database can be fruitful if you are willing to put the time and effort in. Personally, I would call these “near super ideal” or Ideal etc.
When I upgrade this CBI stone, I only have to pay 1$ more and can do basically whatever I want like trade my one diamond for two etc. To me, that is worth the flexibility and extra money. I will give you two examples:
1) upgrading my BN studs: had to pay double, I went from .88 E vs 2 to 1.4 F Si1. Now I’m stuck because in order to upgrade again, I have to get in the $10, 500 range, which would be too big for my lobes because you are getting close to 2 ctw at that point.
2) my BN asscher, see avatar. 1.52 G vs1, before I reset into a split shank, I wanted to upsize. I would have to pay double at 9k more, whereas I only wanted to spend about 4 K more and get to like a 1.68 or so. So I was essentially “stuck” with the 1.52 so I reset into a blingy setting that I love and now it’s all ok. But I was unable to upgrade in the way I wanted to.
With super ideal vendors, you get in stock and vetted stones, excellent customer service, better upgrade policies and with CBI for example, 80% buy back policy. (I’m not sure what other vendors have generous buy back policies...likely most of them and I know Victor Canera does because someone recently posted about it).
AGS is better for light return imagery. Etc.
Believe me, when I upgraded my diamond studs with Blue Nile, it took (I can’t remember exactly) like 1-2 months of daily searching to find a pair with ideal specs (of course, it is harder with pairs). I was stuck with blue Nile and had to pay double, so I was prepared to search for a while, when a pair finally popped up and was only $12.00 more than double.
It’s just so much easier to call WF or HPD or BG and the older I get, the more I am willing to pay the extra to not have to work hard to find a diamond.... you just decide on a budget and about what you want and what you are willing to give on and you can get a diamond today. In my last purchase with HPD/CBI it took all of ten minutes to get a diamond.
But yes, searching a database can be fruitful if you are willing to put the time and effort in. Personally, I would call these “near super ideal” or Ideal etc.
When I upgrade this CBI stone, I only have to pay 1$ more and can do basically whatever I want like trade my one diamond for two etc. To me, that is worth the flexibility and extra money. I will give you two examples:
1) upgrading my BN studs: had to pay double, I went from .88 E vs 2 to 1.4 F Si1. Now I’m stuck because in order to upgrade again, I have to get in the $10, 500 range, which would be too big for my lobes because you are getting close to 2 ctw at that point.
2) my BN asscher, see avatar. 1.52 G vs1, before I reset into a split shank, I wanted to upsize. I would have to pay double at 9k more, whereas I only wanted to spend about 4 K more and get to like a 1.68 or so. So I was essentially “stuck” with the 1.52 so I reset into a blingy setting that I love and now it’s all ok. But I was unable to upgrade in the way I wanted to.
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Totally makes sense.
Thanks for breaking it down and sharing examples from your own experience. There's no doubt that there are many advantages to buying from certain vendors.
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