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Thanks for clarifying!
 
:geek2:Hi Texas Leaguer,

Thank you for clarifying and expanding on WF definition of eye clean.

I originally thought that all WF ACA that are graded SI1 would be inherently eye clean, then I realize that the diamonds which are ACA's meets the WF standards for light performance, not necessariy 'eye clean' standards. (Yes, I have read the WF definition of eye-clean. Very helpful)

Yet, I was puzzled at first that the OP feedback from the WF rep said that for this particular diamond (https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3646312.htm) "The 1.013 I SI1 did not meet our eye clean standard and may have an inclusion that can be seen at 10 inches depending on your eyesight." Then, I had to go back and read more about what determines an ACA WF diamond.

So for you to anticipate already what I was thinking, your explanation helped me a lot. This helped me understand better what your team does and how stones are vetted in house. It is not arbitrary. (now of course I don't want to get nit picky, but what size inclusions are allowable for let's say a 2 ct diamond?)

I think though when we do inquire about a diamond, better questions by the potential buyer should be asked for a particular stone. It is the buyer who should determine what are the acceptable inclusions (clarity) and the location of such inclusions vs. the other C's when deciding on the final diamond to purchase.

-C4C
 
Crazie4Cuts said:
:geek2:Hi Texas Leaguer,

Thank you for clarifying and expanding on WF definition of eye clean.

I originally thought that all WF ACA that are graded SI1 would be inherently eye clean, then I realize that the diamonds which are ACA's meets the WF standards for light performance, not necessariy 'eye clean' standards. (Yes, I have read the WF definition of eye-clean. Very helpful)

Yet, I was puzzled at first that the OP feedback from the WF rep said that for this particular diamond (https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3646312.htm) "The 1.013 I SI1 did not meet our eye clean standard and may have an inclusion that can be seen at 10 inches depending on your eyesight." Then, I had to go back and read more about what determines an ACA WF diamond.

So for you to anticipate already what I was thinking, your explanation helped me a lot. This helped me understand better what your team does and how stones are vetted in house. It is not arbitrary. (now of course I don't want to get nit picky, but what size inclusions are allowable for let's say a 2 ct diamond?)

I think though when we do inquire about a diamond, better questions by the potential buyer should be asked for a particular stone. It is the buyer who should determine what are the acceptable inclusions (clarity) and the location of such inclusions vs. the other C's when deciding on the final diamond to purchase.

-C4C
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Each WF stone has the information about eyecleaness right on the webpage. It will say "yes" or "inquire". Bryan has already explained what inquire means as some people may find a stone eyeclean and others may have eagle eyes. Some are bothered by it and some are not. WF is very open about this and certainly diamonds can be seen and returned if the buyer isn't happy with any aspect of the diamond. I can tell you that Bryan cannot answer your question that I bolded regarding what size inclusions are allowable in a 2 ct diamond. Every stone is different and it is often a combination of inclusions that make the clarity grade. So you go by what WF says on the webpage of each diamond as to whether it faces up eyeclean or go with VS or higher if good clarity is a priority.
 
With Whiteflash, always put on hold the stone you’re interested with and specifically enquire re: inclusions. They will pull the stone out and ask their gemologist to re-examine it to see if the inclusions are visible - eg. At an angle, closer than 10 inches, other perspectives.

An SI1 that is “just” outside the ACA premium may be good value if it’s “mind clean”.
 
diamondseeker2006 said:
Each WF stone has the information about eyecleaness right on the webpage. It will say "yes" or "inquire". Bryan has already explained what inquire means as some people may find a stone eyeclean and others may have eagle eyes. Some are bothered by it and some are not. WF is very open about this and certainly diamonds can be seen and returned if the buyer isn't happy with any aspect of the diamond. I can tell you that Bryan cannot answer your question that I bolded regarding what size inclusions are allowable in a 2 ct diamond. Every stone is different and it is often a combination of inclusions that make the clarity grade. So you go by what WF says on the webpage of each diamond as to whether it faces up eyeclean or go with VS or higher if good clarity is a priority.
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Yes, this is true. While our definition of eye-clean is clear, shoppers new to diamonds may not have a good sense of the impact on overall beauty if an inclusion is technically visible to the naked eye. Some may equate it with an inclusion that is obvious to a casual observer. So we mark those that are technically eye clean as such, and mark those that are not as 'inquire'. In this way we have a chance to give a shopper more detailed insight into how much impact the eye visible inclusion may or many not have on appearance. Before passing up a stone that otherwise has the attributes you are looking for, it may be a good idea to get more perspective. And as someone else suggested, we can also provide additional details on whether the stone is eye-clean from the side and/or at ranges closer than 10".

Further to the point of the relative aspects of clarity grading, the definitions of the grades indicate that they are not absolute. It's a matter of whether the inclusions are easy, somewhat difficult, or extremely difficult for a trained grader to see them working at 10x. This call is impacted by the number, nature, and location, as well as size of the inclusions. And this logically extends to the relative ease or difficulty of seeing inclusion in bigger diamonds. For example, if you were magically able to pluck an inclusion out of an Si1 .50ct and place it into a 2ct, the inclusion may go from 'very' easy to see only 'somewhat' easy to see in the larger diamond, thereby changing the grade to VS2. Conversely, if you pluck a Si1 inclusion out of a 2ct and magically implant it into a half carat, it may drop the grade to Si2.

And this relative concept is also conveyed in the fact that labs do not themselves make eye-clean calls. Because, well, it 'depends'!
 
Jcs496 said:
Hey everyone,

I am looking for an ACA from WF to put in the Tacori 2620 rose gold setting. My budget is around 6k for the stone and I'm looking for the carat to be between 0.9 and 1.1.

Can anyone please share their opinion on these? If you see a diamond that I don't have listed that you would suggest, please share! Thank you for all the information this forum provides.
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Out of the group.this is the one for me...:love:

https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3936450.htm
 
JCS,
Are you still deciding on one of the J ACA diamonds? DF above is also a good choice too if you are still wanting suggestions.
 
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