Somebody Please Explain This To Me

[Dancing Fire]

I think people just flaunt what they have? I think if they are showing cleavage, that means they want you to look there because it's their best asset? I dunno, I've never had any cleavage to show.....but I wear a lot of shorts and short skirts in the summer because my assets are my legs

J'smom...SMTLegs...

 

[athenaworth]

I have fake boobs. They're not **** star huge, but they make me feel more proportional. I bet that makes me super tacky and slutty, doesn't it?

What I don't get is, what difference is it to anyone how anyone else dresses if it's not hurting you. If your 15 year old daughter is wearing boobie shirts, then by all means, put your foot down - you're still their parent, but if someone else is doing it and it offends you, then don't look. Easy peasy.

Athena, first of all, I would never think you were slutty or tacky because you've had your breasts enlarged. That's not even the topic of discussion here. No offense, but you sound a tad defensive.

But look, we're just stating our opinions here. You're entitled to yours, and I'm entitled to mine. Mine is I don't think showing a lot of cleavage is a good look. But I agree that people can dress however they want. Doesn't mean I have to like it.

I was pretty defensive. I guess I was taking it further than the discussion and I apologize. I guess what I meant by that is that now that I have fake boobs I somethings wear "boob shirts." I don't do it at work or when I'm with my inlaws, but I do when I'm going out. I guess I assumed that the judgment would be even harsher in that respect.

I should always always check myself for about 5 minutes before I post something. My knee jerk always makes me sound like a jerk.

 

[kateydid05]

I'm 25 and I don't understand the cleavage thing either. I'm usually well protected behind t-shirts because I feel most comfortable that way. Honestly i'm appalled at most fashion trends these days anyway (at least where I live). There are people in my office building that broadcast their cleavage for all to see and I find it so unprofessional. One of my neighbors in my apartment complex likes to put her phone on speakerphone and tuck it into her massive cleavage...I guess that's cheaper than bluetooth.

 

[Dancing Fire]

what's the difference b/t showing off your diamonds and your cleavage? they both sparkle if well cut...

 

[somethingshiny]

I am a G cup. I have one hand width from my collarbone to the top of my cleavage. If I wear a cleavage enhancing bra, it's more like two fingers. When you think about it in that aspect, not many clothes are really made to come up that high.

I am very against nudity in all forms but I have no problem with cleavage. Maybe because I know what it's like to try to strap them puppies down.

 

[LaurenThePartier]

I'm 25 and I don't understand the cleavage thing either. I'm usually well protected behind t-shirts because I feel most comfortable that way. Honestly i'm appalled at most fashion trends these days anyway (at least where I live). There are people in my office building that broadcast their cleavage for all to see and I find it so unprofessional. One of my neighbors in my apartment complex likes to put her phone on speakerphone and tuck it into her massive cleavage...I guess that's cheaper than bluetooth.

Eesh, that poor phone gets an extra dose of cleavage germs. Think I'm going to ask my lovely large chested friends if this is something the well endowed often do before I ask to use their mobile.

I think most people have a decent concept of what's appropriate attire for their own daily lives. Yes, occasionally I'll think WTF, when I see a woman in my office building wearing something that is best left at a nightclub or the bedroom, but it doesn't hurt me, gives me something to ogle (because who doesn't like to check out boobs) and often I just admire their balls (figuratively , of course, because that would be a whooooole different conversation) to do/wear whatever they want.

 

[iLander]

I should be eating my lunch right now, but I wanted to come back before this thread goes astray.

Thanks, guys, yes the discount shirt is a joke referring to the amount of shirt that doesn't actually exist on the chest: 30-50% off the chest, not off the price. It's a joke

I am NOT judging anyone on how they dress.

I'm just curious.

I would go if some guy was staring at my cleavage. But maybe other ladies like it? Is it an attention thing?

If someone wants to augment their breasts, go for it, more power to you! Nothing wrong with that! Women controlling their own bodies, totally hip to that feminist notion.

Is that it? It's a new brand of feminism that I'm not privvy to?

Please explain it to me, I don't have any friends that wear low cut shirts, so I have no one else to ask.

Not saying it's bad (NOT SAYING THAT) for grown women. Just wondering about the thought process.

I am bringing this up now, because a woman at a company sales meeting was wearing a "discount shirt" that was almost 60% off! Every guy in the room, even the married old farts, wanted to sit with her at lunch break.

 

[MichelleCarmen]

I am bringing this up now, because a woman at a company sales meeting was wearing a "discount shirt" that was almost 60% off! Every guy in the room, even the married old farts, wanted to sit with her at lunch break.

I would want to sit by her too. I bet she's a lot more fun to hang out with than others in the office.

 

[somethingshiny]

Is it for attention? For me, no. At least not on a daily basis I'm not looking for attention, I'm just going about my life. When out with DH, definitely for attention. He likes to see cleavage, I have some, match made in heaven, right? I don't care if someone looks at my cleavage. To me, it's the same as seeing someone's legs in shorts. To some people it's sexy, to others it's not. So if you wanna look at my goodies, whatever. If it offended me, obviously I'd be sporting a turtleneck. Personally, I don't think it has anything to do with feminism or attention. The attention-getters are the ones who thrust their chest forward and rub it on your arm, not the woman with some cleavage peaking.

btw- I don't think you're coming off judgemental.

 

[TravelingGal]

iLander, for me the thought process is fairly simple:

I don't think all that much about it.

I'm not out to get attention; cleavage is everywhere these days and mine isn't a showstopper so I don't feel ogled ever (pretty pathetic cleavage I must have); lower cut shirts show off my pendant better; I shop in clearance racks in discount stores so I just buy whatever is cheap and get my discount shirts at a discount.

Basically boobs are no big deal, and I don't consider (reasonable) cleavage an effort to be overtly sexy unless paired with another sexy element (overly tight entire outfit, f'me heels, short skirt, etc.)

It's like showing your ankles. It's not a risque thing to me anymore.

 

[elrohwen]

As someone with a larger chest I don't really understand the cleavage either. I'm actually fairly uncomfortable showing cleavage unless it's just a small amount. I guess I feel like everyone already knows they're there, so I don't need to draw more attention

One thing I do think is that girl who have had breast enhancements are far more likely to show them off. When you pay that much for them and they're anatomically perfect, I guess it's good to show them off! Most girls I know who are naturally large spend their time hiding their chest.

 

[junebug17]

I have fake boobs. They're not **** star huge, but they make me feel more proportional. I bet that makes me super tacky and slutty, doesn't it?

What I don't get is, what difference is it to anyone how anyone else dresses if it's not hurting you. If your 15 year old daughter is wearing boobie shirts, then by all means, put your foot down - you're still their parent, but if someone else is doing it and it offends you, then don't look. Easy peasy.

Athena, first of all, I would never think you were slutty or tacky because you've had your breasts enlarged. That's not even the topic of discussion here. No offense, but you sound a tad defensive.

But look, we're just stating our opinions here. You're entitled to yours, and I'm entitled to mine. Mine is I don't think showing a lot of cleavage is a good look. But I agree that people can dress however they want. Doesn't mean I have to like it.

I was pretty defensive. I guess I was taking it further than the discussion and I apologize. I guess what I meant by that is that now that I have fake boobs I somethings wear "boob shirts." I don't do it at work or when I'm with my inlaws, but I do when I'm going out. I guess I assumed that the judgment would be even harsher in that respect.

I should always always check myself for about 5 minutes before I post something. My knee jerk always makes me sound like a jerk.

I guess I'm defensive in the other direction Athena, since I have a daughter, and a very fashion-conscious one at that! I actually admire her fashion sense, she always looks great. Sigh...it's just hard to lecture your young daughter about not wearing low-cut stuff, when she sees it all around her! And when said daughter is really into fashion, and wants to wear what's "in". I'm sorry if I came across as obnoxious in my post, I guess I'm pretty defensive too. For the record, I've backed off about my daughter's way of dressing...for goodness sake, she's going to be 22 next month (omg) so at this point she really should be able to make her own decisions on how she wants to dress. She's a good person, has a steady boyfriend, is doing well in school...time for mommy to let go and let her be her own person.

 

[charbie]

Im also a girl who has been blessed in the chest, and have to say that sometimes it can be difficult to find tanks and tops that fit properly without showing off the girls. I wear a support tank top with a shelf bra every single day, even under tee shirts to help minimize my chest, but even shelf bras and a minimizer creates cleavage bc it is diffcult to find accommodating tops with enough rise that don't cut off the circulation to my arms from adjusting the straps so much that you loose an armhole. Tops with too high of a rise emphasize my chest, and make me look much heavier than I naturally am. What woman wants to look heavier?

That being said, I have two dresses that make my boobs look fabulous and have been told before, "if you've got 'em, flaunt 'em." Gladly.

 

[Autumnovember]

I love my boobs and I will show cleavage when I feel like it (rare, but still). I don't think it makes me any less intelligent. They look good.

 

[charbie]

I love my boobs and I will show cleavage when I feel like it. I don't think it makes me any less intelligent. They look good.

It means you're smarter. You know what you like, and ain't afraid to share it. Or you know what works, and ain't afraid of the free drinks

 

[somethingshiny]

It's kinda like chest hair on men. Some have it, some don't. Some show it, some cover it. Manly or sexy to some, to others not so much.

I notice chest hair because I like it. My sis is disgusted by it. But I'd say the majority of people just don't care.

 

[MonkeyPie]

I love my boobs and I will show cleavage when I feel like it. I don't think it makes me any less intelligent. They look good.

It means you're smarter. You know what you like, and ain't afraid to share it. Or you know what works, and ain't afraid of the free drinks

Hey, free drinks are always a plus!

I have no problem with cleavage, though I will give you an amazed look if you can manage to keep enormous boobs strapped into a shirt so low I can see your diaphragm. That's just gravity-defying.

I also have cleavage tattoos. I have never gotten rude comments on them - at least not to my face - but I didn't get them for the sole reason of showing off my boobs. Everyone always assumes that. But I dress in what I want, whether others may like it or not.

 

[texaskj]

Please, no boobs at work.
If those of you who are well-endowed knew half the perverts I've worked with over the years, you'd come to work in a burqa.
About 12 years ago a friend of mine at work got a new house and wanted to have a pool party and she just couldn't seem to drum up any enthusiasm. I finally told her none of the women wanted their co-workers to see them in bathing suits and NOBODY wanted to see a certain 450-pound male co-worker in his. She saw the light. Oddly enough, he was the only one who always asked when the party was going to be.

 

[yennyfire]

For me, it's a matter of time and place. Under no circumstances should a young (or old!) high school teacher be wearing a low cut shirt that exposes her cleavage. What she does on her own time is her business. Personally, I don't like to show cleavage during the day. I wear a lot of v-necks or round neck shirts because that's what looks best on me. However, there's no cleavage showing unless I'm bending over and I'm pretty careful about that. At night, when we're going out, I will show a little cleavage...just a tiny bit...more of a tease really....I'm a big believer in leaving something for the imagination (and something for DH to look forward to when we get home)

 

[princesss]

For me what it comes down to is that if you look at the images of women we've got right now, it's much less about June Cleaver and a wholesome family image more about independence and sex appeal, so of course the trend is to go a little flashier/more revealing - it's almost all we see! For grown women, I don't think there's anything wrong with owning your sex appeal. My friend J has amazing legs and a flat stomach, and she wears things that show off her legs and how fit she is. I've got curves, so I flaunt 'em. I avoid showing cleavage in the workplace and when I know I'm going to be around kids, but especially in summer I'm likely to be showing some cleavage. I can't really get annoyed with guys for looking, because not only am I putting it out there, but I'm assessing their bodies the way they're assessing mine. Are you wearing something that shows off your arms? I'm a sucker for big, strong man arms, and I'll drool over those. Playing soccer with your shirt off? If you've got some good muscle definition, it'll take somebody physically picking me up and removing me from the situation to get me to stop watching.

Honestly, my boobs are one of my better features, and my figure is definitely one of the things I've got going for me - I'm slim-ish (5'10" and a size eight), but quite curvy. Half the time if I wear something that doesn't show at least a little bit, I end up looking like I'm either 20lbs heavier than I am, or I look like a sack of potatoes.

ETA: I had to spell out "size eight" because when I put the number it came out reading "size " which really amuses me.

 

[iugurl]

I am bringing this up now, because a woman at a company sales meeting was wearing a "discount shirt" that was almost 60% off! Every guy in the room, even the married old farts, wanted to sit with her at lunch break.

I would want to sit by her too. I bet she's a lot more fun to hang out with than others in the office.

Really? I don't care what people wear in most situations. You show off your cleavage at the mall or restaurants, I don't mind. Although I have been shocked by some outfits that I think no one should ever wear, anywhere. That is not my decision to make though

However, at work I would be offended. Most workplaces are not the appropriate place to be showing off your assets. I don't think you should wear overly tight, short, or low clothing at the office. It's not just "my" opinion, as every single company I have worked for has had rules about such inappropriate clothing. I would wonder why a person would choose to wear something like that to the office.

 

[natascha]

I should be eating my lunch right now, but I wanted to come back before this thread goes astray.

Thanks, guys, yes the discount shirt is a joke referring to the amount of shirt that doesn't actually exist on the chest: 30-50% off the chest, not off the price. It's a joke

I am NOT judging anyone on how they dress.

I'm just curious.

I would go if some guy was staring at my cleavage. But maybe other ladies like it? Is it an attention thing?

If someone wants to augment their breasts, go for it, more power to you! Nothing wrong with that! Women controlling their own bodies, totally hip to that feminist notion.

Is that it? It's a new brand of feminism that I'm not privvy to?

Please explain it to me, I don't have any friends that wear low cut shirts, so I have no one else to ask.

Not saying it's bad (NOT SAYING THAT) for grown women. Just wondering about the thought process.

I am bringing this up now, because a woman at a company sales meeting was wearing a "discount shirt" that was almost 60% off! Every guy in the room, even the married old farts, wanted to sit with her at lunch break.

I would not say its a new brand of feminism but for me its a case of wearing what I want with no regards taken to the fact that some people say hide the boobs because they are sexual. I got fed up with trying to hide my boobs because men and women were oggeling my chest when I was 13. Since then I wear what I want of course taking into consideration where I am.

Honestly to all those saying it is not hard to cover up ye old cleavage try my shoes one day. From my collarbone to my cleavage is a space of 3-4 fingers, if you cover that up without wearing something very baggy you get a lot more attention than with a cleavage. Honestly when I want attention I cover up, then you get the boobs bigger than head look. I am a feminist who considers my body to be something that is to be appreciated without making it into a sexual, attention seeking you get what you deserve thing and I like cleavage. I think cleavage is pretty and comparable to showing your legs or showing of your butt in a nice pair of jeans. Look at our history, was it that long ago that ankles were considered scandalous?

Oh yeah for the record, I often wear cleavage, I am 23 years old and not a bimbo. I am pursuing a Bachelor in Economics and Business Administration at the highest ranked university in my country and at the same time pulling of a Law degree so I can't be a complete dozy.

In conclusion, after a long and rambling post, all I want to say is people do whatever you want and boobies are gorgeous!

 

[Dancing Fire]

ladies post some cleavage pics then i'll give you my honest opinion...

 

[somethingshiny]

Just for DF, cleavage for PSers.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleavage_(crystal)

 

[MichelleCarmen]

I am bringing this up now, because a woman at a company sales meeting was wearing a "discount shirt" that was almost 60% off! Every guy in the room, even the married old farts, wanted to sit with her at lunch break.

I would want to sit by her too. I bet she's a lot more fun to hang out with than others in the office.

Really? I don't care what people wear in most situations. You show off your cleavage at the mall or restaurants, I don't mind. Although I have been shocked by some outfits that I think no one should ever wear, anywhere. That is not my decision to make though

However, at work I would be offended. Most workplaces are not the appropriate place to be showing off your assets. I don't think you should wear overly tight, short, or low clothing at the office. It's not just "my" opinion, as every single company I have worked for has had rules about such inappropriate clothing. I would wonder why a person would choose to wear something like that to the office.

We don't know the whole story. The woman could be (believe it or not!) intelligent & funny. Just because she was showing off the girls, doesn't mean that's all she has to her. Is it fair to assume that she lacks all else beyond her physique? Could she have a great attitude and not be cranky? huh!

 

[AGBF]

I've said it before: I live in a parallel universe. I never noticed, "all the cleavage". I don't go looking at the same things other people do and I don't notice much about the physical world.

Deb/AGBF


Diamonds Are A Girl's Best Friend

 

[iheartscience]

I've said it before: I live in a parallel universe. I never noticed, "all the cleavage". I don't go looking at the same things other people do and I don't notice much about the physical world.

Deb/AGBF


Diamonds Are A Girl's Best Friend

Ha, me neither, Deb! And I do tend to notice what women are wearing because I love fashion. I guess I'll keep an eye out for cleavage next time I leave the house so I can make a proper assessment!

 

[Kay]

Honestly, if you have big breasts, cleavage is a part of life. Unless you're a fan of turtlenecks, it's gonna happen.

TBH, I think that even though there's no cleavage showing, turtlenecks emphasize the chest area far more than shirts with a lower neckline.As for why there's so much out there, well, that's what is in the stores. I don't particularly seek out cleavage-bearing tops, but I also don't have time to make my own clothes, so sometimes I end up in tops with necklines a little lower than I'd like. But it beats wearing nothing at all!

This is true. DH loves fitted turtlenecks because they make the girls look huge w/o looking like you are trying too hard, like with a really low cut top. I wear very conservative clothes to work, but if I am going out in the evening or on a weekend, then a sundress or top with a little cleavage can be fun. My hips are larger than I would like right now, so I would rather focus the attention upward.

My DD is only 2, but I imagine I will be sensitive to this issue when she reaches her pre-teen years. And I agree with the poster who said your kids sometimes give you unintentional cleavage when you are carrying them on your hip or when they tug at your clothes.

 

[LGK]

If I wear a v neck or surplice neckline dress, there is cleavage. It's just a side effect of D cups. Since I have a fairly hourglass shape figure those necklines flatter, so I do wear them anyway even to work. I don't go for MAJOR cleavage unless I'm going out to a club or other event where it would be appropriate, or hanging out with my sister (a long running joke between us).

I don't think I'm exactly, uh, the right person to ask about modest and appropriate dress code however

 

[JulieN]

I have no cleavage. I like to go around without a bra. I don't like it when a boyfriend can't handle it. But I don't care, what's the big deal? Everybody's got nipples!

And as for men ogling... I ogle men's and women's goodies equally, without discrimination. In the marriage/social market these days, everyone's trying to signal they've got something that you want. I just think it is natural, and not something to be offended about. If someone's offended, then they should cover up, of course.