shihtzulover
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I had issues with my previous job, and I really don't want to start any sort of drama at my current one, but I'm not sure that I can just sit there and do nothing anymore. The thought of going back tomorrow and acting like everything is okay makes me feel sick to my stomach. Basically, one of the managers of my branch completely humiliated me on Friday afternoon:
This manager always has a temper, and he always gets away with it. On top of that, he doesn't do what he needs to do, but then he accuses his own employees (luckily, I'm not on his team) of not doing them, and he writes them up.
I audit files, and I had certain ones in my filing cabinet because they were in a certain stage of audit. Someone else needed it for something, so I gave it to them. I was about to leave for the evening, so I asked her for it, and she told me that this manager took it.
I went to his office to ask him what he was doing and how long it would be, because it was time for me to leave. These files are my responsibility when they're in my possession, and this one was not in a stage where it would be available for general use - it needed to go back in my filing cabinet before I left. He might have thought that it was out and available for his use because the other girl had it, but it wasn't. Also, my manager and I are in charge of the distribution of the files, and she already sent out an email explaining that the files are not to leave the designated room without my permission, even when they are out for corrections. Since he (well really, one of his employees was carrying it) had brought it to his office, it obviously wasn't in the designated room anymore.
Anyway, I stood in the open doorway until I was acknowledged, since they (he had one of his employees in his office) were in the middle of a conversation. I calmly asked how long they would have it, and he said that he would bring it back to me when he was done with it. When I explained that I would be leaving soon, he started getting upset, and told me that he would put it in the cabinets in the designated room when he was done, and asked me if those cabinets locked. I was confused by the question and responded that they don't lock (not that it has anything to do with the situation, which is what confused me). He started to get more upset and rant, and I couldn't really understand his accent or what he was saying. I then asked why he had the file (trying to figure out how long it would be, and also, I do have the right to ask that, since it was supposed to be my possession, and I have to know where they are and if anything is being written in them), and he flew off the handle.
He started raising his voice more and hollering that he wasn't going to tell me what he was doing, and he slammed the door in my face, even though I was right in front of the door and talking to him.
I went to tell my supervisor, but then he came down the hall, and my supervisor called him over. He walked up to me, shouting again and pointing his finger at me, telling me that he is a supervisor and I will not talk to him that way and question him, and that his job is more hectic than mine, etc. I argued back a bit, but he shouted over me.
My supervisor had to get in front of him to try to get him to calm down, but he ignored her. He also went to our director's office (one door down from where we were, so he could hear everything), and shouted that this wasn't the first time that I treated him this way, and that something needs to be done about it.
Meanwhile, I started to cry a little bit (I'm so mad that I did, but it was just completely humiliating), but the director (his immediate boss) did nothing. My supervisor apologized 'for him', and she and the site director said that they would talk to him, but I know that nothing will happen.
I just feel so humiliated because he was yelling at me like that in front of everyone, like I'm nothing. I was just doing my job, and it's my responsibility to know what's going on with those files when I have them.
He could have just told me that he was doing the corrections that I assigned to him, and that he would give it back in five minutes, which was apparently all that it was - but instead, he blew up at me in front of everyone who happened to be around. Even if it was just a big misunderstanding, or if he thought that I was talking to him in an inappropriate way, it is not acceptable for him to act like that under any circumstances.
I couldn't stop crying. He has been like this before, and he always has a temper and I can hear him shouting on the phone in his office, but it's never been this bad before. I have heard him shouting about me to our director, saying that I don't know what I'm talking about and that I don't have the authority to tell him to do certain things (even though the director told me to), but he didn't yell directly at me that time. The director never really says anything to him, and just lets him continue throwing fits.
I don't know what to do. He normally has a temper and I hear him yelling on the phone and through the walls, etc. He has tried to throw me under the bus before, saying that I never sent him certain emails, etc., because he didn't follow up on them properly so wanted to act like I didn't ever send them. Since it was between him and his team getting in trouble and me, he wanted to save them from trouble and act like I never sent the emails. I told him that I had records of the emails so we could look back and see what I sent, and he didn't say anything about it anymore.
I also have a couple of rude/unprofessional emails from him. One directed toward me, and one kind of to me, but also rude to the other managers. No one ever does anything though, because our director doesn't want to be confrontational.
Since no one ever does anything and our director never writes anyone up unless it comes from our regional manager that he has to, I really don't feel like anything will be done. IF they even talk to him, it will just be a conversation, and our director will gently tell him that he shouldn't do that, and then he will carry on some more and walk out of the office, and continue acting like this.
I don't even know if I have the right to ask on Monday whether or not this has been addressed, since I am not on the management level. I don't know if I should send an official complaint to HR, because I'm not sure if that will get me anywhere, either. Also, our director does not like it when I go outside of our office for advice from other people in our company, like the company's quality assurance manager. Even though she's the only one with the answers that I need sometimes, he wants me to 'follow the chain of command' and ask my supervisor and him, even though they don't have a clue about file audits. We do not have an HR representative at our branch, so if I were to do this, I would have to contact our corporate HR team.
My fiance wants to have a lawyer friend write a letter about the hostile work environment to HR, because he feels that will get more results than just letting my site director handle it (because he probably won't). Also, then it will be on file for the future. On the other hand, I know that it will anger my boss/site director/company to go over their heads.
I should add that this is by far not the first incident at this office (there have been many others, including some with my own supervisor), but I've really tried to bite my tongue and just stay at the job so that I can have a long-term position to put on my resume. However, I feel that what happened on this past Friday cannot go unaddressed.
I know that some of you will tell me to look for a new job, but that's where it gets tricky. I was really just trying to make a full year here, because my fiancé and I actually moved to this city so that I could take this job (he telecommutes to work). However, even forgetting about my job situation, we are not happy with the area here, and the city is not what we expected, so our plan was to just stay here until our lease runs out (in August), and then move back to our old city. I'm not even sure whether or not I was planning to find another job at that point. It's not a necessity at all, but I just wanted some experience in my field, in case I want to go back to work later. I also wanted to stay somewhere for a full year at least, just to have a stable job on my resume.
Even if I do choose to continue working, I doubt that I will even go back to this field in our city, because it's so difficult to find a job in it there. I was planning to find a more general office job, hopefully using the fact that I have a four-year degree, and I was also planning to take some general business classes.
Honestly, this place makes my last job look like a dream. Although things were bad there, I was never disrespected this much, and i was also a management team member there. Here, I am expected to take on management-level responsibilities (because I am qualified for them, but there were no higher positions open at the the time that I was hired, and this job was just supposed to get me in with the company and be a stepping stone until I was promoted - which doesn't look like it would happen anytime soon), but I have no authority and none of the perks of being one.
This manager always has a temper, and he always gets away with it. On top of that, he doesn't do what he needs to do, but then he accuses his own employees (luckily, I'm not on his team) of not doing them, and he writes them up.
I audit files, and I had certain ones in my filing cabinet because they were in a certain stage of audit. Someone else needed it for something, so I gave it to them. I was about to leave for the evening, so I asked her for it, and she told me that this manager took it.
I went to his office to ask him what he was doing and how long it would be, because it was time for me to leave. These files are my responsibility when they're in my possession, and this one was not in a stage where it would be available for general use - it needed to go back in my filing cabinet before I left. He might have thought that it was out and available for his use because the other girl had it, but it wasn't. Also, my manager and I are in charge of the distribution of the files, and she already sent out an email explaining that the files are not to leave the designated room without my permission, even when they are out for corrections. Since he (well really, one of his employees was carrying it) had brought it to his office, it obviously wasn't in the designated room anymore.
Anyway, I stood in the open doorway until I was acknowledged, since they (he had one of his employees in his office) were in the middle of a conversation. I calmly asked how long they would have it, and he said that he would bring it back to me when he was done with it. When I explained that I would be leaving soon, he started getting upset, and told me that he would put it in the cabinets in the designated room when he was done, and asked me if those cabinets locked. I was confused by the question and responded that they don't lock (not that it has anything to do with the situation, which is what confused me). He started to get more upset and rant, and I couldn't really understand his accent or what he was saying. I then asked why he had the file (trying to figure out how long it would be, and also, I do have the right to ask that, since it was supposed to be my possession, and I have to know where they are and if anything is being written in them), and he flew off the handle.
He started raising his voice more and hollering that he wasn't going to tell me what he was doing, and he slammed the door in my face, even though I was right in front of the door and talking to him.
I went to tell my supervisor, but then he came down the hall, and my supervisor called him over. He walked up to me, shouting again and pointing his finger at me, telling me that he is a supervisor and I will not talk to him that way and question him, and that his job is more hectic than mine, etc. I argued back a bit, but he shouted over me.
My supervisor had to get in front of him to try to get him to calm down, but he ignored her. He also went to our director's office (one door down from where we were, so he could hear everything), and shouted that this wasn't the first time that I treated him this way, and that something needs to be done about it.
Meanwhile, I started to cry a little bit (I'm so mad that I did, but it was just completely humiliating), but the director (his immediate boss) did nothing. My supervisor apologized 'for him', and she and the site director said that they would talk to him, but I know that nothing will happen.
I just feel so humiliated because he was yelling at me like that in front of everyone, like I'm nothing. I was just doing my job, and it's my responsibility to know what's going on with those files when I have them.
He could have just told me that he was doing the corrections that I assigned to him, and that he would give it back in five minutes, which was apparently all that it was - but instead, he blew up at me in front of everyone who happened to be around. Even if it was just a big misunderstanding, or if he thought that I was talking to him in an inappropriate way, it is not acceptable for him to act like that under any circumstances.
I couldn't stop crying. He has been like this before, and he always has a temper and I can hear him shouting on the phone in his office, but it's never been this bad before. I have heard him shouting about me to our director, saying that I don't know what I'm talking about and that I don't have the authority to tell him to do certain things (even though the director told me to), but he didn't yell directly at me that time. The director never really says anything to him, and just lets him continue throwing fits.
I don't know what to do. He normally has a temper and I hear him yelling on the phone and through the walls, etc. He has tried to throw me under the bus before, saying that I never sent him certain emails, etc., because he didn't follow up on them properly so wanted to act like I didn't ever send them. Since it was between him and his team getting in trouble and me, he wanted to save them from trouble and act like I never sent the emails. I told him that I had records of the emails so we could look back and see what I sent, and he didn't say anything about it anymore.
I also have a couple of rude/unprofessional emails from him. One directed toward me, and one kind of to me, but also rude to the other managers. No one ever does anything though, because our director doesn't want to be confrontational.
Since no one ever does anything and our director never writes anyone up unless it comes from our regional manager that he has to, I really don't feel like anything will be done. IF they even talk to him, it will just be a conversation, and our director will gently tell him that he shouldn't do that, and then he will carry on some more and walk out of the office, and continue acting like this.
I don't even know if I have the right to ask on Monday whether or not this has been addressed, since I am not on the management level. I don't know if I should send an official complaint to HR, because I'm not sure if that will get me anywhere, either. Also, our director does not like it when I go outside of our office for advice from other people in our company, like the company's quality assurance manager. Even though she's the only one with the answers that I need sometimes, he wants me to 'follow the chain of command' and ask my supervisor and him, even though they don't have a clue about file audits. We do not have an HR representative at our branch, so if I were to do this, I would have to contact our corporate HR team.
My fiance wants to have a lawyer friend write a letter about the hostile work environment to HR, because he feels that will get more results than just letting my site director handle it (because he probably won't). Also, then it will be on file for the future. On the other hand, I know that it will anger my boss/site director/company to go over their heads.
I should add that this is by far not the first incident at this office (there have been many others, including some with my own supervisor), but I've really tried to bite my tongue and just stay at the job so that I can have a long-term position to put on my resume. However, I feel that what happened on this past Friday cannot go unaddressed.
I know that some of you will tell me to look for a new job, but that's where it gets tricky. I was really just trying to make a full year here, because my fiancé and I actually moved to this city so that I could take this job (he telecommutes to work). However, even forgetting about my job situation, we are not happy with the area here, and the city is not what we expected, so our plan was to just stay here until our lease runs out (in August), and then move back to our old city. I'm not even sure whether or not I was planning to find another job at that point. It's not a necessity at all, but I just wanted some experience in my field, in case I want to go back to work later. I also wanted to stay somewhere for a full year at least, just to have a stable job on my resume.
Even if I do choose to continue working, I doubt that I will even go back to this field in our city, because it's so difficult to find a job in it there. I was planning to find a more general office job, hopefully using the fact that I have a four-year degree, and I was also planning to take some general business classes.
Honestly, this place makes my last job look like a dream. Although things were bad there, I was never disrespected this much, and i was also a management team member there. Here, I am expected to take on management-level responsibilities (because I am qualified for them, but there were no higher positions open at the the time that I was hired, and this job was just supposed to get me in with the company and be a stepping stone until I was promoted - which doesn't look like it would happen anytime soon), but I have no authority and none of the perks of being one.