Selling 1.5 RB

[luvsdmb]

I am seriously thinking of selling my diamond, I would love any advice you could offer.

F
SI2
VG/VG
6.97-7.04x4.60mm
Depth 65.70%
Table 55.90%
Girdle thick

 

[Niel]

well my first thing would be, why? whats got you needing something new.... seems like youve got an itch nothing will scratch

 

[luvsdmb]

I don't wear it and some things have come up that the money being wasted on it while it sits in my drawer is not worth it at the moment. Plus to be honest since I still don't know what setting I want and I half miss my oval I'm just over all of it. I've been such a idiot and made horrible decisions that the dang thing doesn't even really mean much to me.

It makes me sad but my husband and I have talked about it and this seems like the thing to do. For the record I did tell him that later down the road I may want another ring and he is fine with that.

Ideally I would like $10,000 but I'm sure I will never get that??

 

[iheartscience]

well my first thing would be, why? whats got you needing something new.... seems like youve got an itch nothing will scratch

Hahaha is this a joke? Are you forgetting your own upgrade saga? And defensiveness when anyone said the above to you?

 

[Niel]

well my first thing would be, why? whats got you needing something new.... seems like youve got an itch nothing will scratch

Hahaha is this a joke? Are you forgetting your own upgrade saga? And defensiveness when anyone said the above to you?

No it wasn't a joke I was genuinely curious. I wasn't going to follow it up with anything but support, but I was just wondering if she was selling it to start a new ring, or to move on, or what?

I've been following lvsdmb's story for quite a while, and I was going to commiserate with her because she knows my troubles with finding the right ring......so no reason to be snarky.


Lvsdmb, I'm sorry nothing seems to be fitting the bill for you!

Hopefully this step back from rings eventually being you to your perfect one


I think the price seems a tad high though.

 

[luvsdmb]

What price should I start with?

 

[Niel]

What price should I start with?

Hmm I don't know, what grading lab is the certificate from?

 

[luvsdmb]

What price should I start with?

Hmm I don't know, what grading lab is the certificate from?

I will have to get back with you with that info. My friend who is looking at buying it for the store where he works has all the info with him.

 

[ruby59]

65.7 depth? That is deep. Maybe a recut?

 

[Polished]

luvsdmb, I sensed that your quest for the ring of your dreams had ceased to be a joy and had instead become something of a burden. I would just urge caution before deciding to sell. A poster here Maisie, who I hope won't mind if I mention her case as it's well documented. The long and short of it was that she became a bit preoccupied with the up-grading of the size of her diamonds to the point where she no longer enjoyed them but when she sold them she regretted that too. Something to be borne in mind is that selling your diamond might not provide the resolution you hope for. Would mothballing it in a safety deposit box in the bank put it sufficiently out of mind for you to postpone the ring dilemmas until you are in a shifted head space and possibly different life circumstances?

 

[bunnycat]

Do you know the reason why you don't wear it as much as you thought you would? Not the same kind of finger coverage as the oval? Not sparkly enough? If you don't like it but know you want something else later down the line, you might take a few days to decide what you do and don't like about it or identify if you can why you don't like it so you have a better idea next time and don't go shooting down the wrong path again.

If you liked the finger coverage of the pear then once you find a setting (like a halo) then you ought to get your finger coverage back. If it isn't as sparkly as you'd like, you might see if it can be recut to more ideal proportions because it is deep. You will lose some carat weight but probably not much diameter.

Here are some similarly proportioned stones on JA:

http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut/1.50-carat-f-color-si2-clarity-very-good-cut-sku-231810
http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut/1.46-carat-g-color-si2-clarity-very-good-cut-sku-173153

Also, if choosing settings are a problem for you, I would urge you to try on settings before decding on them and taking pictures of them to look at later. I don't know if this is something you have done in the past but I can say there are times when I have looked at settings that I *like* that actually ended up looking bad on me when I look at them in pictures later so trying them on before deciding on one and not just picking one out would be essential if you are prone to changing your mind. Please correct me if I am wrong, but in previous threads on settings you seem to have picked them because you liked the look, customized them and then decided they looked bad on you so try them first and photograph them so you can look later and ditch the ideas that don't look good and be left with only the ideas that do.

FWIW, I feel your pain. I love halos, and I have one that looks nice on me with the plain shank (which I have discovered looks best on me). But wouldn't you know the thing that look truly best on me is a solitaire (which I hate and even hate to admit) and boy does that get my goat (plus, I'd need a honker to make it work).

 

[luvsdmb]

luvsdmb, I sensed that your quest for the ring of your dreams had ceased to be a joy and had instead become something of a burden. I would just urge caution before deciding to sell. A poster here Maisie, who I hope won't mind if I mention her case as it's well documented. The long and short of it was that she became a bit preoccupied with the up-grading of the size of her diamonds to the point where she no longer enjoyed them but when she sold them she regretted that too. Something to be borne in mind is that selling your diamond might not provide the resolution you hope for. Would mothballing it in a safety deposit box in the bank put it sufficiently out of mind for you to postpone the ring dilemmas until you are in a shifted head space and possibly different life circumstances?

Yes Polished you are correct. The joy of my diamond is gone. Between not knowing what I want, missing my oval and my poor husband who just wishes I would do something that makes me happy so that I can stop thinking about rings.
If I could get what I want for it, no less than $8,500 I would be happy. At this point I feel like I would not regret selling it. I just got home from vacation and I stored my diamond in a safe. When I got home and picked up my diamond, I actually had the idea of oh crap not this damn thing again. I actually enjoyed being away from it, which is when I started thinking selling might be a good idea.

However if I can not get much for it, I will probably store it away again, just so I can take a break from it.

 

[luvsdmb]

Do you know the reason why you don't wear it as much as you thought you would? Not the same kind of finger coverage as the oval? Not sparkly enough? If you don't like it but know you want something else later down the line, you might take a few days to decide what you do and don't like about it or identify if you can why you don't like it so you have a better idea next time and don't go shooting down the wrong path again.

If you liked the finger coverage of the pear then once you find a setting (like a halo) then you ought to get your finger coverage back. If it isn't as sparkly as you'd like, you might see if it can be recut to more ideal proportions because it is deep. You will lose some carat weight but probably not much diameter.

Here are some similarly proportioned stones on JA:

http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut/1.50-carat-f-color-si2-clarity-very-good-cut-sku-231810
http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut/1.46-carat-g-color-si2-clarity-very-good-cut-sku-173153

Also, if choosing settings are a problem for you, I would urge you to try on settings before decding on them and taking pictures of them to look at later. I don't know if this is something you have done in the past but I can say there are times when I have looked at settings that I *like* that actually ended up looking bad on me when I look at them in pictures later so trying them on before deciding on one and not just picking one out would be essential if you are prone to changing your mind. Please correct me if I am wrong, but in previous threads on settings you seem to have picked them because you liked the look, customized them and then decided they looked bad on you so try them first and photograph them so you can look later and ditch the ideas that don't look good and be left with only the ideas that do.

FWIW, I feel your pain. I love halos, and I have one that looks nice on me with the plain shank (which I have discovered looks best on me). But wouldn't you know the thing that look truly best on me is a solitaire (which I hate and even hate to admit) and boy does that get my goat (plus, I'd need a honker to make it work).

That is a great question of why I don't wear it.It has nothing to do with the size, finger coverage, anything like that. It scratches the hell out of my 1 year old. It's just plain and while I like the diamond and I am okay with the finger coverage with it not being in a setting I just don't love love love it the way it is right now to wear it all the time. I've never been the type to wear jewelry at home, but I always figured when I got married I would. Matter of fact when I got married the band I was married with never came off. I liked having a ring I did not have to think about. (that band does not fit right now, and no it can no be re-sized)
In the very beginning no I did not take pictures, but I do now. I keep thinking a plain shank with a halo is really what I am suppose to have, but I must admit I should have kept my oval.The type of halo I like, I never intended on with a round. I traded my oval for a round for a specific ring, and since I have not seen that ring since I've had my round I guess I should maybe try seeing it again.

I should have kept my original diamond that my now husband proposed to me with. Or I should have kept my oval. I like that it was different, I did not however love the color, but it was something that didn't look horrible. The color of my current RB is great. But I just don't love my ring right now.

 

[bunnycat]

Do you know the reason why you don't wear it as much as you thought you would? Not the same kind of finger coverage as the oval? Not sparkly enough? If you don't like it but know you want something else later down the line, you might take a few days to decide what you do and don't like about it or identify if you can why you don't like it so you have a better idea next time and don't go shooting down the wrong path again.

If you liked the finger coverage of the pear then once you find a setting (like a halo) then you ought to get your finger coverage back. If it isn't as sparkly as you'd like, you might see if it can be recut to more ideal proportions because it is deep. You will lose some carat weight but probably not much diameter.

Here are some similarly proportioned stones on JA:

http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut/1.50-carat-f-color-si2-clarity-very-good-cut-sku-231810
http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut/1.46-carat-g-color-si2-clarity-very-good-cut-sku-173153

Also, if choosing settings are a problem for you, I would urge you to try on settings before decding on them and taking pictures of them to look at later. I don't know if this is something you have done in the past but I can say there are times when I have looked at settings that I *like* that actually ended up looking bad on me when I look at them in pictures later so trying them on before deciding on one and not just picking one out would be essential if you are prone to changing your mind. Please correct me if I am wrong, but in previous threads on settings you seem to have picked them because you liked the look, customized them and then decided they looked bad on you so try them first and photograph them so you can look later and ditch the ideas that don't look good and be left with only the ideas that do.

FWIW, I feel your pain. I love halos, and I have one that looks nice on me with the plain shank (which I have discovered looks best on me). But wouldn't you know the thing that look truly best on me is a solitaire (which I hate and even hate to admit) and boy does that get my goat (plus, I'd need a honker to make it work).

That is a great question of why I don't wear it.It has nothing to do with the size, finger coverage, anything like that. It scratches the hell out of my 1 year old. It's just plain and while I like the diamond and I am okay with the finger coverage with it not being in a setting I just don't love love love it the way it is right now to wear it all the time. I've never been the type to wear jewelry at home, but I always figured when I got married I would. Matter of fact when I got married the band I was married with never came off. I liked having a ring I did not have to think about. (that band does not fit right now, and no it can no be re-sized)
In the very beginning no I did not take pictures, but I do now. I keep thinking a plain shank with a halo is really what I am suppose to have, but I must admit I should have kept my oval.The type of halo I like, I never intended on with a round. I traded my oval for a round for a specific ring, and since I have not seen that ring since I've had my round I guess I should maybe try seeing it again.

I should have kept my original diamond that my now husband proposed to me with. Or I should have kept my oval. I like that it was different, I did not however love the color, but it was something that didn't look horrible. The color of my current RB is great. But I just don't love my ring right now.

Well, I do think you need to decide what your actual problem is with the ring. From what I am reading above, you like the stone but say it scratches and that has nothing to do with the stone but the setting, which can be easily changed.

I posted the pricing on the specs of similar stones to show you what retail pricing would be like. You won't be able to get that much on the secondary market. SOmeone who knows the secondary market well would be a better person to say what you COULD get, but I would suspect around 50% of what you paid depending on the grading lab and if you sold to a jewelry store it would probably be less. Diamonds are not the investments some would have you believe. And to me it seems like a very extreme thing to do, to take a 30-50% or more loss on something just because you don't like the setting which is cheap compared to buying a new diamond if you like the stone.

You might consider a bezel set solitaire for it. That would stop the scratching, and be durable to wear and wouldn't have to be babied.

 

[arkieb1]

I am seriously thinking of selling my diamond, I would love any advice you could offer.

F
SI2
VG/VG
6.97-7.04x4.60mm
Depth 65.70%
Table 55.90%
Girdle thick

65.7% depth I hope that is a typo.

How is that a constructive thing to say here Concepta?

And Luvsdmb, could you go and look at a setting like the one you originally wanted for it? Maybe that will make you like it all over again, or a halo or bezel might indeed help fix it catching and scratching.

 

[luvsdmb]

I am seriously thinking of selling my diamond, I would love any advice you could offer.

F
SI2
VG/VG
6.97-7.04x4.60mm
Depth 65.70%
Table 55.90%
Girdle thick

65.7% depth I hope that is a typo.

Not a typo, but I will double check when I get the information back.

 

[luvsdmb]

I am seriously thinking of selling my diamond, I would love any advice you could offer.

F
SI2
VG/VG
6.97-7.04x4.60mm
Depth 65.70%
Table 55.90%
Girdle thick

65.7% depth I hope that is a typo.

How is that a constructive thing to say here Concepta?

And Luvsdmb, could you go and look at a setting like the one you originally wanted for it? Maybe that will make you like it all over again, or a halo or bezel might indeed help fix it catching and scratching.

Yes I have been looking at bezel settings, I seem to lean towards them. Again it wasn't my plan for a round though. I am going to take a look at the ring for the round again, maybe I will love it and just keep my diamond.
Would a re-cut really be something I would want to do because of the depth? What would that do to it. (I really don't know much about diamonds as you can figure out)

 

[luvsdmb]

65.7 depth? That is deep. Maybe a recut?

What exactly would a re-cut do? I feel stupid for asking, but honestly I don't know much about diamonds.

 

[bunnycat]

65.7 depth? That is deep. Maybe a recut?

What exactly would a re-cut do? I feel stupid for asking, but honestly I don't know much about diamonds.

Luvs- You would have to have the stone evaluated to see if it would be a good candidate for a recut, maybe on the pavilion. It would help to see what the inclusions are too (hopefully on the lab report) but you will have to send it in to a pro like Rhino at Good Old Gold or Brian Gavin to see what they say. I think recuts run around $350 per carat but don't know for sure.

If you want to see the difference it could make, you might go to a store that has some Hearts on Fire or other ideal cut stones to look at and see what you think of the difference. I guess I feel like if this stone could be tweaked to it's sparkly best, then my guess it you would be FINDING ways to wear it no matter what. I know I do with mine...And if you like the stone, put it in something that looks good and works for you NOW, and then reset to something else later. You don't have to start all over on a ring just because you don't like the setting. That's throwing the baby out with the bathwater!

Also check out the bezel thread to see what you think. Could be like something in between a halo and regular setting? More sleek than a prong setting perhaps? And no worries about having to baby the pave work on a halo? It could be a nice fit for your needs. If you do decide to reset, I'd put aside any preconceived ideas of what kind of rings you like, don't buy a setting just because you like it on sight and take an objective look at things that look good on you and will fit your needs. (IE- if you have a baby/toddler then delicate pave halo and prongs is probably NOT a good idea right now so save it for later.)

[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/show-us-your-bezel-rings.121897/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/show-us-your-bezel-rings.121897/[/URL]

 

[Niel]

im not sure a recut would work for you, it would probably drop it under a 1.5 ct, plus the clarity might keep it from being done.... but, it might make it easier to sell if you decide that....

but if it keeps scratching your LO, which i understand, my pear did that too because of the tip, a bezel would be a good idea...if you decided to keep it, you could send it to brian gavin. They could evaluate it for a recut, and whether its good or not, they could then reset it in a sholdt bezel... and then youve got a really sleek ring.... but thats going to cost money, and i dont know if BG would even be able or willing to recut it

 

[Niel]

.And if you like the stone, put it in something that looks good and works for you NOW, and then reset to something else later. You don't have to start all over on a ring just because you don't like the setting. That's throwing the baby out with the bathwater!

I agree, so a bezel wasnt your dream setting, sounds like it would work best now, set it in a bezel now an when your children are out of carrying age you can get it set in a prong set halo or whatever you wanted to

 

[bunnycat]

im not sure a recut would work for you, it would probably drop it under a 1.5 ct, plus the clarity might keep it from being done.... but, it might make it easier to sell if you decide that....

but if it keeps scratching your LO, which i understand, my pear did that too, a bezel would be a good idea...if you decided to keep it, you could send it to brian gavin. They could evaluate it for a recut, and whether its good or not, they could then reset it in a sholdt bezel... and then youve got a really sleek ring.... but thats going to cost money, and i dont know if BG would even be able or willing to recut it

It probably would drop the actual weight below 1.5 if it's actually weighing right at 1.5, but the diameter of it is currently the diameter of about a 1.3 ct stone, and I doubt much actual diameter would be lost. It might be worth it, if it would work. If the diameter were closer to a 1.5ct then I'd probably not even suggest it but it isn't so that's what would make it worth it (to me at least).

 

[blingymo]

Sounds like the scratching and having to "think about" the ring are your main issues? I agree that a bezel would take both of those away. Something like Coati's thick, rounded, low bezel would give you a ring that was like a gold band with the sparkle. You would probably be able to wear it like that band that you just wore and forgot about.

 

[Niel]

im not sure a recut would work for you, it would probably drop it under a 1.5 ct, plus the clarity might keep it from being done.... but, it might make it easier to sell if you decide that....

but if it keeps scratching your LO, which i understand, my pear did that too, a bezel would be a good idea...if you decided to keep it, you could send it to brian gavin. They could evaluate it for a recut, and whether its good or not, they could then reset it in a sholdt bezel... and then youve got a really sleek ring.... but thats going to cost money, and i dont know if BG would even be able or willing to recut it

It would almost certainly drop the actual weight below 1.5 if it's actually weighing right at 1.5, but the diameter of it is currently the diameter of about a 1.3 ct stone, and I doubt much actual diameter would be lost. It might be worth it, if it would work. If the diameter were closer to a 1.5ct then I'd probably not even suggest it but it isn't.

true, I just was under the impression a cutter is reluctant to do it if it drops below a noteworthy ctw

 

[04diamond<3]

luvsdmb, I sensed that your quest for the ring of your dreams had ceased to be a joy and had instead become something of a burden. I would just urge caution before deciding to sell. A poster here Maisie, who I hope won't mind if I mention her case as it's well documented. The long and short of it was that she became a bit preoccupied with the up-grading of the size of her diamonds to the point where she no longer enjoyed them but when she sold them she regretted that too. Something to be borne in mind is that selling your diamond might not provide the resolution you hope for. Would mothballing it in a safety deposit box in the bank put it sufficiently out of mind for you to postpone the ring dilemmas until you are in a shifted head space and possibly different life circumstances?

Yes Polished you are correct. The joy of my diamond is gone. Between not knowing what I want, missing my oval and my poor husband who just wishes I would do something that makes me happy so that I can stop thinking about rings.
If I could get what I want for it, no less than $8,500 I would be happy. At this point I feel like I would not regret selling it. I just got home from vacation and I stored my diamond in a safe. When I got home and picked up my diamond, I actually had the idea of oh crap not this damn thing again. I actually enjoyed being away from it, which is when I started thinking selling might be a good idea.

However if I can not get much for it, I will probably store it away again, just so I can take a break from it.

Since this doesn't seem to have come up....or if it has I didn't see it. You will absolutely not get what you paid for it or close to it. The comparable stones that were posted are brand new. You are selling a used stone therefore will only bring you about 50 - 60% at best! I paid 4k for my stone and when I wanted to change it, getting quotes and putting feelers out there for it what a huge wake up call. The best offer I got was for 2500. I would suggest what others have...get a new setting and see if you like that better. If not, maybe keep it for a solitaire necklace? Just a thought.

EDIT to add that you may want to check with Jon at GOG to see if the recutting would work. He can make that into an H&A,....before saying no to that idea, I'd check with him. He'll let you know if it'll work and provide you with other options for selling if you want.

 

[bunnycat]

im not sure a recut would work for you, it would probably drop it under a 1.5 ct, plus the clarity might keep it from being done.... but, it might make it easier to sell if you decide that....

but if it keeps scratching your LO, which i understand, my pear did that too, a bezel would be a good idea...if you decided to keep it, you could send it to brian gavin. They could evaluate it for a recut, and whether its good or not, they could then reset it in a sholdt bezel... and then youve got a really sleek ring.... but thats going to cost money, and i dont know if BG would even be able or willing to recut it

It would almost certainly drop the actual weight below 1.5 if it's actually weighing right at 1.5, but the diameter of it is currently the diameter of about a 1.3 ct stone, and I doubt much actual diameter would be lost. It might be worth it, if it would work. If the diameter were closer to a 1.5ct then I'd probably not even suggest it but it isn't.

true, I just was under the impression a cutter is reluctant to do it if it drops below a noteworthy ctw

That I don't know. But if a recut would make it a super sparkly stone that I'd want to keep (not resell), then I'd consider it in this case (if it were a possibility) mainly because it's not facing up any bigger than 1.3-ish anyway so visually, that's all I'd be getting out of it. But that's just what I'd do. I can't say whether it is or isn't a candidate but if it were me, I'd ask then weigh those concerns after I got the info back. It's definitely something to consider, but I'd only weigh it more heavily in terms of if I were reselling than if I were keeping. And even then I'd probably cross compare some ideal cut prices at the projected finished specs to see just how losing some weight would affect resale.

 

[Niel]

admittedly I cannot remember where i am getting this idea from, but i thought if the recut would actually reduce the resale value over increase it, they wouldnt do it.... i thought that had happened to someone here, like a smaller well cut stone wouldnt have prompted as much return as a poorly cut larger one.


but if i was going to keep it, id definitely want to do it, if it was possible. Then id put it in a pretty rose or yellow or rose gold low set bezel to make that E color POP, and id wear it and completely forget about it... if i were keeping it

 

[bunnycat]

My question, though it's slightly off topic is if someone says recutting it doesn't increase the resale value, what resale are they speaking of? Retail? Because then I'd probably agree, a retailer would get more at the weight it is at. But secondary market? If on a not so well cut stone you are already looking at 50% or more loss on it, then how could recutting (if possible) to a more ideally proportioned stone with a good lab report be more of a loss than that?

Why would someone want to recut then? Well, I've seen a number of times on here where people had stones that were not all that well cut and didn't wear them and liked them after the recut, but I have yet to see a post where someone says I have this fabulously cut stone and I hate it and never wear it....

 

[Niel]

My question, though it's slightly off topic is if someone says recutting it doesn't increase the resale value, what resale are they speaking of? Retail? Because then I'd probably agree, a retailer would get more at the weight it is at. But secondary market? If on a not so well cut stone you are already looking at 50% or more loss on it, then how could recutting (if possible) to a more ideally proportioned stone with a good lab report be more of a loss than that?

Why would someone want to recut then? Well, I've seen a number of times on here where people had stones that were not all that well cut and didn't wear them and liked them after the recut, but I have yet to see a post where someone says I have this fabulously cut stone and I hate it and never wear it....

I wonder the same. If you were going to sell it back to a jeweler, sure, maybe a recut is a waste of time, but if you are trying to sell it yourself i dont think it is. Its hard to sell on ebay, so if you want to reach people, youd go though a consignment or diamond bistro or loupetroop.... right? people there are far more likely to buy and value a well cut stone...

and to your second point, if it could be recut, i dont think it would be so hard to love.

 

[luvsdmb]

A re-cut is not even on my mind right now. One because I am not sure where this diamond will end up, two I think my diamond is fine the way it is, as everyone has pointed out my issue is with the setting. However I think the real issue is I should have kept my oval. Plain and simple.Which is very hard for me to admit, because as I stated before I feel so stupid with the bad decisions I have made regarding rings.
I contacted the store to see if I could trade back to my oval, which is not a option. So I contacted a few vendors that I have found through this site and I am going to see what I can do.