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ruby59|1474924263|4081001 said:
But in order to achieve this, children need to stay in school, get a job, and earn the money to obtain them, just live everyone else has to do.

Life is not a free ride.
Agreed, it shouldn't be a free ride.
 

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So redlining creates ghettos whicj drives down properly values which determines property taxes which funds the schools.

"If you want better schools go get them"
Is easier said than done. Inner city schools in Detroit can't always keep the heat going, the water running, the hallways free of mold. When it's 10 degrees and you can't heat your school, it's not because you don't have the can do spirit. Tell them to "just go and try to have better school."
 

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redwood66|1474932032|4081052 said:
Dancing Fire|1474931823|4081048 said:
telephone89|1474908450|4080906 said:
So what is the purpose of the govt if not to care for the people of its country?
To create more jobs and get Americans back to work. What the liberals don't understand is that govt. programs will only prolong poverty.

No DF. It is not the job of the government to create jobs. They have enough already. It is their responsibility to allow a free market that will allow businesses to create jobs without the hindrance of onerous regulation.
That's what I meant. Obama Care eliminated millions of small business jobs.
 

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Tekate|1474930663|4081043 said:
ruby59|1474929282|4081032 said:
http://dailycaller.com/2016/09/25/charlotte-rioters-have-new-list-of-demands-includes-reparations/


Anything in there about reparations for the businesses the rioters looted and destroyed.

They should have insurance against looting. There is no insurance against being shot and killed for being black and not doing anything wrong.


Never mind that not everyone can afford insurance, I cannot believe you are trying to justify it. These rioters and looters are nothing better than terrorists - people who demand you give them what they want or they will cause bodily harm and destruction.

As far as not doing anything wrong , he was sitting in his car smoking marijuana. He is a convicted felon, yet he has a gun. He was told numerous times to drop it. And even his widow could be heard saying to her husband, "don't do it."

The only innocent man who was killed was the one standing there until a rioter shot him in the head.. But since the shooter was arrested, and they can no longer blame it on the police, that poor guy is no longer mentioned.
 

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Niel|1474932924|4081060 said:
So redlining creates ghettos whicj drives down properly values which determines property taxes which funds the schools.

"If you want better schools go get them"
Is easier said than done. Inner city schools in Detroit can't always keep the heat going, the water running, the hallways free of mold. When it's 10 degrees and you can't heat your school, it's not because you don't have the can do spirit. Tell them to "just go and try to have better school."

Perfect example that leaving something like education to government doesn't work in this case.
 

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Tekate|1474930663|4081043 said:
ruby59|1474929282|4081032 said:
http://dailycaller.com/2016/09/25/charlotte-rioters-have-new-list-of-demands-includes-reparations/


Anything in there about reparations for the businesses the rioters looted and destroyed.

They should have insurance against looting. There is no insurance against being shot and killed for being black and not doing anything wrong.
So you wouldn't mind if I rob you? I need a new TV maybe I'll go and loot Best Buy tonight.
 

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redwood66|1474905984|4080890 said:
IMO - They have the responsibility to obtain these things for themselves as it is not the purpose of government to "make sure people have the things that they need to thrive."
Wow, possibly one of the harshest things I've ever read. I understand when people don't like socialism, but wow.

There is a flaw in your logic though. What about food deserts? In some poor communities there are no grocery stores nearby - only 7/11, mcD, etc. Someone has enough money (earned through working, as you stipulate) to buy groceries, but not enough to buy a car. But they cannot get to a grocery store to get healthy food for their child. So they end up spending MORE by going to 711 to buy apples or get unhealthy mcD for their kids. How do you suggest that they obtain this themselves when the govt makes it near impossible? Who is responsible for putting transit routes in? Infrastructure? Bylaws to ensure fair distribution of these? BY GOLLY that sounds like the government!

Another poster justified rioting by saying these stores should have insurance. So if you were a mom and pop grocery store, would you want to create a business that at the whim of agitators could be gone in a minute?
 

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ruby59|1474935556|4081095 said:
telephone89|1474906969|4080899 said:
redwood66|1474905984|4080890 said:
IMO - They have the responsibility to obtain these things for themselves as it is not the purpose of government to "make sure people have the things that they need to thrive."
Wow, possibly one of the harshest things I've ever read. I understand when people don't like socialism, but wow.

There is a flaw in your logic though. What about food deserts? In some poor communities there are no grocery stores nearby - only 7/11, mcD, etc. Someone has enough money (earned through working, as you stipulate) to buy groceries, but not enough to buy a car. But they cannot get to a grocery store to get healthy food for their child. So they end up spending MORE by going to 711 to buy apples or get unhealthy mcD for their kids. How do you suggest that they obtain this themselves when the govt makes it near impossible? Who is responsible for putting transit routes in? Infrastructure? Bylaws to ensure fair distribution of these? BY GOLLY that sounds like the government!

Another poster justified rioting by saying these stores should have insurance. So if you were a mom and pop grocery store, would you want to create a business that at the whim of agitators could be gone in a minute?

I fit that remark - although I did not feel I was 'justifying' looting just saying they WILL be reimbursed unless they were uninsured, you don't think someone should bear some responsibility for setting up shop in a less than desirable area? Do you think that these shops don't charge more than your suburban white neighborhood? I lived in the south Bronx and I can tell you things were a LOT more expensive in my neighborhood than on the Grand Concourse. So, they have looted, what was the Boston Tea Party? how horrible they looted and threw that tea in the harbor, one can say that it's an American way of telling the kind or president that one is not being paid attention to. When I read posters here who say that youth can get ahead because education is free, I have to laugh! hahaha! my kids went to a school that offered every imaginable opportunity for young people, AP classes, IB program, Japanese, German, so check out a school in rural Texas, one would be hard pressed to even find AP classes, reason: Taxes.. money. JOBS... high paying jobs.

Is poverty cause and effect? or effect of cause? And focusing on the looting rather than WHY black americans are angry, is blaming the victim, whenever I read some posters here who think all low income people can just buckle up, pull up and get ahead.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/sep/29/racism-black-people-experience

https://changefromwithin.org/2011/02/24/post-racial-more-covert-in-our-racism/

Covert racism against blacks and hispanics is rampant in America.
 

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Dancing Fire|1474934260|4081084 said:
Tekate|1474930663|4081043 said:
ruby59|1474929282|4081032 said:
http://dailycaller.com/2016/09/25/charlotte-rioters-have-new-list-of-demands-includes-reparations/


Anything in there about reparations for the businesses the rioters looted and destroyed.

They should have insurance against looting. There is no insurance against being shot and killed for being black and not doing anything wrong.
So you wouldn't mind if I rob you? I need a new TV maybe I'll go and loot Best Buy tonight.

Feel free to loot where you want DF.. is there a lot of looting in your neighborhood? Do you think your chances of being shot by a cop is higher or lower because you are of Asian descent? Are these stores looted day in and out? So is there insurance against walking black in America and being shot?

eta: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/11/25/1347311/--Why-do-they-burn-down-their-own-neighborhood

I was a 17 year old kid in Bronx going to college and I recognized right away that being white gave me privilege DF, by far, not only that I was a fairly decent looking back in the day and I was given a free pass many a time because of it.. that's life in the big city. I remember sitting at orientation at Lehman and thinking whoa I am glad I'm not black, it's toooo hard... ah youth.

BLM t shirts for teachers, I say again, good for them, let them explain the covert racism in America, can any white person really say if they hear a name and accent on the phone they judge the other person on the line? if people of all races and colors, Americans would educate themselves rather than judge we might get somewhere.

http://www.linguisticsociety.org/content/what-ebonics-african-american-english
 

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Tekate|1474979231|4081223 said:
I fit that remark - although I did not feel I was 'justifying' looting just saying they WILL be reimbursed unless they were uninsured, you don't think someone should bear some responsibility for setting up shop in a less than desirable area? Do you think that these shops don't charge more than your suburban white neighborhood?

T - I have a problem with this kind of thinking. Why should a business owner, who may or may not live in the area, be demonized for setting up shop in a less than desirable location? Don't those neighborhoods deserve services also? Otherwise you have a food desert as someone else called it. If the prices are higher to cover more expensive insurance is that the business owner's fault? No its the community's fault. In this example the word "community" refers to the people living there, the local government in charge, the criminals, everyone associated with it, even the business owner if they live there. But "fixing" that community is not the responsibility of the Federal government.

I do feel for law abiding citizens who live in these areas. But I give no credence or validation to anyone who commits crimes and then claims they are a victim of racism to justify it. People can call me a racist if they feel the need. I have been called much worse on a daily basis by the very people I am talking about including Cracker, effing b*tch, ho, and many more that I cannot type on PS. If you think that many of these criminals are not racist against whites then you are sorely mistaken.

As always - this is said with much respect to you. :wavey:
 

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Tekate|1474979231|4081223 said:
I fit that remark - although I did not feel I was 'justifying' looting just saying they WILL be reimbursed unless they were uninsured, you don't think someone should bear some responsibility for setting up shop in a less than desirable area? Do you think that these shops don't charge more than your suburban white neighborhood?

T - I have a problem with this kind of thinking. Why should a business owner, who may or may not live in the area, be demonized for setting up shop in a less than desirable location? Don't those neighborhoods deserve services also? Otherwise you have a food desert as someone else called it. If the prices are higher to cover more expensive insurance is that the business owner's fault? No its the community's fault. In this example the word "community" refers to the people living there, the local government in charge, the criminals, everyone associated with it, even the business owner if they live there. But "fixing" that community is not the responsibility of the Federal government.

I do feel for law abiding citizens who live in these areas. But I give no credence or validation to anyone who commits crimes and then claims they are a victim of racism to justify it. People can call me a racist if they feel the need. I have been called much worse on a daily basis by the very people I am talking about including Cracker, effing b*tch, ho, and many more that I cannot type on PS. If you think that many of these criminals are not racist against whites then you are sorely mistaken.

As always - this is said with much respect to you. :wavey:

Same to you Red, I learn from you.

I am not demonizing them setting up shop Red, I am distressed they charge more than in 'safer' areas. As I said, it's cause or effect.

We have a basic divergent view on what the federal government should do.. I think the Federal government is the leader and when states can't or won't do what is right for the community/state/country - well then the Feds have to step in.. as in the terrible gerrymandering done in states recently.

Your job had you come in contact with society's worst, not everyone in low income, black areas will call you cracker or an effing bitch. I lived in an area where I was called some of those terms. I think in prison, they don't want to be there and they will harass the heck out of guards..

Do I think criminals are racist? nope I think first and foremost they are criminals, bad people, and going along with that comes racism.

peace and love to you and yours always.
 

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I clicked on this thinking, great, good for them. Thought it was going to be a happy, feel good thread. Oops. Carry on.
 

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T - I have a problem with this kind of thinking. Why should a business owner, who may or may not live in the area, be demonized for setting up shop in a less than desirable location? Don't those neighborhoods deserve services also? Otherwise you have a food desert as someone else called it. If the prices are higher to cover more expensive insurance is that the business owner's fault? No its the community's fault. In this example the word "community" refers to the people living there, the local government in charge, the criminals, everyone associated with it, even the business owner if they live there. But "fixing" that community is not the responsibility of the Federal government.

I do feel for law abiding citizens who live in these areas. But I give no credence or validation to anyone who commits crimes and then claims they are a victim of racism to justify it. People can call me a racist if they feel the need. I have been called much worse on a daily basis by the very people I am talking about including Cracker, effing b*tch, ho, and many more that I cannot type on PS. If you think that many of these criminals are not racist against whites then you are sorely mistaken.

As always - this is said with much respect to you. :wavey:
Those are terrible names to be called, but you do not seem to understand what racism means. In the USA, no one can be 'racist against whites', because whites have the majority of the power. Racism is prejudice + power. What you experienced was prejudice. But as a white person in the US, you still hold more power, so this is not racism.
 

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This racial divide is deep and distressing. I agree that it is important to understand the perspective of black Americans. However, why does the left dismiss the pov of black people who disagree with their solutions? Democrats have been in charge of the large inner cities for decades and haven't solved the issues.
 

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telephone89|1474992764|4081281 said:
redwood66|1474987002|4081250 said:
T - I have a problem with this kind of thinking. Why should a business owner, who may or may not live in the area, be demonized for setting up shop in a less than desirable location? Don't those neighborhoods deserve services also? Otherwise you have a food desert as someone else called it. If the prices are higher to cover more expensive insurance is that the business owner's fault? No its the community's fault. In this example the word "community" refers to the people living there, the local government in charge, the criminals, everyone associated with it, even the business owner if they live there. But "fixing" that community is not the responsibility of the Federal government.

I do feel for law abiding citizens who live in these areas. But I give no credence or validation to anyone who commits crimes and then claims they are a victim of racism to justify it. People can call me a racist if they feel the need. I have been called much worse on a daily basis by the very people I am talking about including Cracker, effing b*tch, ho, and many more that I cannot type on PS. If you think that many of these criminals are not racist against whites then you are sorely mistaken.

As always - this is said with much respect to you. :wavey:
Those are terrible names to be called, but you do not seem to understand what racism means. In the USA, no one can be 'racist against whites', because whites have the majority of the power. Racism is prejudice + power. What you experienced was prejudice. But as a white person in the US, you still hold more power, so this is not racism.

Semantics. Does not make it any more right or ok. The hate is there. It is a cop out and an excuse to say that people do not have the power to make the right choices. It's about choosing to do what is morally right. Our laws are based on what is morally acceptable in this country. And it does not make a difference what color you are. Am I intolerant toward criminal behavior? You bet I am. And I make no excuses or apologies for it. There are true victims of those crimes that were committed and I will always speak up for them first.

People choose to work or not work. They choose to steal, murder, rape, do drugs, sell drugs, etc. Those choices have consequences whether you are poor or affluent. If racism exists in a police dept. then it is the job of the Attorney General of that state to investigate and address it accordingly. Not the federal government.

:wavey:
 

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redwood66|1475002586|4081335 said:
telephone89|1474992764|4081281 said:
redwood66|1474987002|4081250 said:
T - I have a problem with this kind of thinking. Why should a business owner, who may or may not live in the area, be demonized for setting up shop in a less than desirable location? Don't those neighborhoods deserve services also? Otherwise you have a food desert as someone else called it. If the prices are higher to cover more expensive insurance is that the business owner's fault? No its the community's fault. In this example the word "community" refers to the people living there, the local government in charge, the criminals, everyone associated with it, even the business owner if they live there. But "fixing" that community is not the responsibility of the Federal government.

I do feel for law abiding citizens who live in these areas. But I give no credence or validation to anyone who commits crimes and then claims they are a victim of racism to justify it. People can call me a racist if they feel the need. I have been called much worse on a daily basis by the very people I am talking about including Cracker, effing b*tch, ho, and many more that I cannot type on PS. If you think that many of these criminals are not racist against whites then you are sorely mistaken.

As always - this is said with much respect to you. :wavey:
Those are terrible names to be called, but you do not seem to understand what racism means. In the USA, no one can be 'racist against whites', because whites have the majority of the power. Racism is prejudice + power. What you experienced was prejudice. But as a white person in the US, you still hold more power, so this is not racism.

Semantics. Does not make it any more right or ok. The hate is there. It is a cop out and an excuse to say that people do not have the power to make the right choices. It's about choosing to do what is morally right. Our laws are based on what is morally acceptable in this country. And it does not make a difference what color you are. Am I intolerant toward criminal behavior? You bet I am. And I make no excuses or apologies for it. There are true victims of those crimes that were committed and I will always speak up for them first.

People choose to work or not work. They choose to steal, murder, rape, do drugs, sell drugs, etc. Those choices have consequences whether you are poor or affluent. If racism exists in a police dept. then it is the job of the Attorney General of that state to investigate and address it accordingly. Not the federal government.

:wavey:

What types of jobs are there in high crime neighborhoods? last I looked IBM doesn't offer a job there. The hate is there for blacks Red, deep, seething hate. This country as a whole needs to educate, and assist those who live in high crime, low employment neighborhoods, if you make 22K a year can you afford a car? can you afford going to school at night with 2 kids... to me how you come across is it's all totally and unequivocally up to the person, in this case, the minority blacks would not be able to even have children.. I agree that it's up to the individual to work hard, but it is up to business, the community, government and US as Americans to help break this horrible chain of poverty, crime and hate. Speaking up for victims of crimes doesn't mean one cannot have sympathy or compassion for those who have never 'had' what the others have had. I think there are many reasons why the underbelly of America losing and one is they themselves don't see hope or a chance.. My sister was a victim of crime in the Bronx and she doesn't believe all 'black people' are bad.. If racism exists in a state is is most certainly the job of the federal government to investigate if the state does diddly about it, and many states don't do anything. States attorney generals are there to enforce what the legislature enacts, so if the state enacts laws or gerrymanders the votes then the Feds must and should enter.
 

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T - I don't believe all black people (or any color) are bad either but I won't assume you meant that about me. My comments are directed toward those who commit crimes and I think I have been very upfront about that. I have experienced deep, seething hate from blacks, whites, asians, and hispanics. And these people have no respect for the life of persons or property. That is a choice and it ruins communities. I have immeasurable sympathy for those who live in communities who are law abiding. But I will never have sympathy for those who make the choice to be a criminal and commit acts of violence. My life experience does not make me any more special than anyone else but it does give me an insight that most who post here have not had. If you have seen what I have seen or read the gory details you might understand my POV. But you don't have to and we can still have a respectful discussion as always.

My biggest issue with this whole discussion is that the feds can't fix this. Government cannot legislate the human heart. The communities themselves have to decide that enough is enough. That means the local police, citizens, churches, volunteers, and the like must decide to take control and have an honest discussion. And the media does nothing to help these problems.

Because I am white, none of what I say matters in this discussion anyway.

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Tekate|1474979404|4081224 said:
Feel free to loot where you want DF.. is there a lot of looting in your neighborhood? Do you think your chances of being shot by a cop is higher or lower because you are of Asian descent? Are these stores looted day in and out? So is there insurance against walking black in America and being shot?
:-o..I don't believe you made this statement.. :-o Had I gone out looting and stealing when I was young my mom would have skin me alive. I was taught to obey the law and work for everything I my heart desired, not to steal... :nono: It is time for young black americans to stop playing the victim card as an excuse to steal. My mom have always reminded me by saying..."remember, your action outside of this house is a reflection of me as being a good/bad parent.
 

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AnnaH|1475000103|4081322 said:
This racial divide is deep and distressing. I agree that it is important to understand the perspective of black Americans. However, why does the left dismiss the pov of black people who disagree with their solutions? Democrats have been in charge of the large inner cities for decades and haven't solved the issues.
Yup, The Dems. only care about AA once every 4 yrs. i.e....after 7.5 yrs Prez. Obama have done nothing to improve the lives of black americans living in inner cities. His hometown of Chicago is a war zone... :wall:
 

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Dancing Fire|1475021427|4081422 said:
Tekate|1474979404|4081224 said:
Feel free to loot where you want DF.. is there a lot of looting in your neighborhood? Do you think your chances of being shot by a cop is higher or lower because you are of Asian descent? Are these stores looted day in and out? So is there insurance against walking black in America and being shot?
:-o..I don't believe you made this statement.. :-o Had I gone out looting and stealing when I was young my mom would have skin me alive. I was taught to obey the law and work for everything I my heart desired, not to steal... :nono: It is time for young black americans to stop playing the victim card as an excuse to steal. My mom have always reminded me by saying..."remember, your action outside of this house is a reflection of me as being a good/bad parent.


All those young people out on the streets at 1 AM, where in the world are their parents?
 

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Tekate|1475011064|4081379 said:
What types of jobs are there in high crime neighborhoods? last I looked IBM doesn't offer a job there. The hate is there for blacks Red, deep, seething hate. This country as a whole needs to educate, and assist those who live in high crime, low employment neighborhoods, if you make 22K a year can you afford a car? can you afford going to school at night with 2 kids... to me how you come across is it's all totally and unequivocally up to the person, in this case, the minority blacks would not be able to even have children.. I agree that it's up to the individual to work hard, but it is up to business, the community, government and US as Americans to help break this horrible chain of poverty, crime and hate. Speaking up for victims of crimes doesn't mean one cannot have sympathy or compassion for those who have never 'had' what the others have had.
The first thing minority blacks must do is to advance their education in order for companies like IBM to hire them. Do you really think it is sheer luck that minority Asians are among the highest paid racial group in the U.S.? ... :read: and no, I am not one of those Asian... ;( Do you know why? b/c I didn't go to college to advance my education. Maybe I can use that as an excuse to go rob and steal?
 

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Aw now people are just baiting.

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redwood66|1475013371|4081392 said:
T - I don't believe all black people (or any color) are bad either but I won't assume you meant that about me. My comments are directed toward those who commit crimes and I think I have been very upfront about that. I have experienced deep, seething hate from blacks, whites, asians, and hispanics. And these people have no respect for the life of persons or property. That is a choice and it ruins communities. I have immeasurable sympathy for those who live in communities who are law abiding. But I will never have sympathy for those who make the choice to be a criminal and commit acts of violence. My life experience does not make me any more special than anyone else but it does give me an insight that most who post here have not had. If you have seen what I have seen or read the gory details you might understand my POV. But you don't have to and we can still have a respectful discussion as always.

My biggest issue with this whole discussion is that the feds can't fix this. Government cannot legislate the human heart. The communities themselves have to decide that enough is enough. That means the local police, citizens, churches, volunteers, and the like must decide to take control and have an honest discussion. And the media does nothing to help these problems.

Because I am white, none of what I say matters in this discussion anyway.

:wavey:
I am "yellow" and I'd agree with 99% of your posts... :appl: :appl: And now Tekate will accuse me of having "yellow privilege"... :lol:
 

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Elliot86|1475031978|4081493 said:
Aw now people are just baiting.
Baiting what??? You are bored b/c you know everything I wrote is correct, but you can't accuse me of having white privilege b/c I am a minority living in the U.S.
 

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Dancing Fire|1475032729|4081500 said:
Elliot86|1475031978|4081493 said:
Aw now people are just baiting.
Baiting what??? You are bored b/c you know everything I wrote is correct, but you can't accuse me of having white privilege b/c I am a minority living in the U.S.

"You know everything I wrote is correct" :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Elliot86|1475032970|4081501 said:
Dancing Fire|1475032729|4081500 said:
Elliot86|1475031978|4081493 said:
Aw now people are just baiting.
Baiting what??? You are bored b/c you know everything I wrote is correct, but you can't accuse me of having white privilege b/c I am a minority living in the U.S.

"You know everything I wrote is correct" :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
So where am I wrong besides my terrible grammars?... :bigsmile:
 

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Dancing Fire|1474933344|4081065 said:
redwood66|1474932032|4081052 said:
Dancing Fire|1474931823|4081048 said:
telephone89|1474908450|4080906 said:
So what is the purpose of the govt if not to care for the people of its country?
To create more jobs and get Americans back to work. What the liberals don't understand is that govt. programs will only prolong poverty.

No DF. It is not the job of the government to create jobs. They have enough already. It is their responsibility to allow a free market that will allow businesses to create jobs without the hindrance of onerous regulation.
That's what I meant. Obama Care eliminated millions of small business jobs.



Can you back that up with any information? Unbiased (like not Brietbart or CNN)

http://www.newsweek.com/what-has-obamacare-done-jobs-316195

I am not thrilled with my Affordable Care :) but it's better than nothing if I get a catastrophic illness, so far so good.
 

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redwood66|1475013371|4081392 said:
T - I don't believe all black people (or any color) are bad either but I won't assume you meant that about me. My comments are directed toward those who commit crimes and I think I have been very upfront about that. I have experienced deep, seething hate from blacks, whites, asians, and hispanics. And these people have no respect for the life of persons or property. That is a choice and it ruins communities. I have immeasurable sympathy for those who live in communities who are law abiding. But I will never have sympathy for those who make the choice to be a criminal and commit acts of violence. My life experience does not make me any more special than anyone else but it does give me an insight that most who post here have not had. If you have seen what I have seen or read the gory details you might understand my POV. But you don't have to and we can still have a respectful discussion as always.

My biggest issue with this whole discussion is that the feds can't fix this. Government cannot legislate the human heart. The communities themselves have to decide that enough is enough. That means the local police, citizens, churches, volunteers, and the like must decide to take control and have an honest discussion. And the media does nothing to help these problems.

Because I am white, none of what I say matters in this discussion anyway.

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I am "yellow" and I'd agree with 99% of your posts... :appl: :appl: And now Tekate will accuse me of having "yellow privilege"... :lol:

All I can say about Asians is their culture is one of hard work, believing in success, and pushing their kids (and if you believe some of the idiots in Austin Texas, their kids are cheaters on A/P etc smh). I have mulled over many times DF why blacks don't seem to value education the way many other born here Americans (Wasps etc).. and Asians. Why is it? this is what I could find..
https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2014/07/30/stop-blaming-black-parents-for-underachieving-kids/?utm_term=.742f872f7b1e
 

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Tekate|1475033461|4081504 said:
Dancing Fire|1474933344|4081065 said:
redwood66|1474932032|4081052 said:
Dancing Fire|1474931823|4081048 said:
telephone89|1474908450|4080906 said:
So what is the purpose of the govt if not to care for the people of its country?
To create more jobs and get Americans back to work. What the liberals don't understand is that govt. programs will only prolong poverty.

No DF. It is not the job of the government to create jobs. They have enough already. It is their responsibility to allow a free market that will allow businesses to create jobs without the hindrance of onerous regulation.
That's what I meant. Obama Care eliminated millions of small business jobs.



Can you back that up with any information? Unbiased (like not Brietbart or CNN)

http://www.newsweek.com/what-has-obamacare-done-jobs-316195

I am not thrilled with my Affordable Care :) but it's better than nothing if I get a catastrophic illness, so far so good.

Not sure where you live but my husband looked into it for me. The deductible alone is why he will keep working until I can qualify for medicare.
 

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Tekate|1475011064|4081379 said:
What types of jobs are there in high crime neighborhoods? last I looked IBM doesn't offer a job there. The hate is there for blacks Red, deep, seething hate. This country as a whole needs to educate, and assist those who live in high crime, low employment neighborhoods, if you make 22K a year can you afford a car? can you afford going to school at night with 2 kids... to me how you come across is it's all totally and unequivocally up to the person, in this case, the minority blacks would not be able to even have children.. I agree that it's up to the individual to work hard, but it is up to business, the community, government and US as Americans to help break this horrible chain of poverty, crime and hate. Speaking up for victims of crimes doesn't mean one cannot have sympathy or compassion for those who have never 'had' what the others have had.
The first thing minority blacks must do is to advance their education in order for companies like IBM to hire them. Do you really think it is sheer luck that minority Asians are among the highest paid racial group in the U.S.? ... :read: and no, I am not one of those Asian... ;( Do you know why? b/c I didn't go to college to advance my education. Maybe I can use that as an excuse to go rob and steal?

I went to college, I went to college on Pell grants and work study paid for by you the taxpayer and I am forever grateful for that, I got my first house with an FHA loan, who subsidized me? you the taxpayer.

DF my kids went to a poshy public high school in Austin, sky's the limit, plenty of money for when the state of Texas was consistently cutting school money, this gives my kids one (or two or three) legs up in life.. simple as that.

IBM should set up shop in low income, high crime areas and hire the locals, it might be good incentive. If you can't afford a guy on MIckey D money, you can on IBM base salary :)
 
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