REALLY need help some opinions on these two great stones!!!

[Rocky3]

Been staring at these two diamond reports all day and still can''t find an answer.

Has anybody bought an ACA from Whiteflash post January 2009? If so how was the quality?

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 6/26/2009 8:16:22 PM
Author: jet2ks

Date: 6/26/2009 7:05:17 PM
Author: the tree sees
Could the diamond have just been slightly tipped when WF took the hearts photo? The ASET seems to suggest so; notice the apparent (but not real) discrepancy in arrow lengths.

I think both are quality stones. Go with whichever one speaks more to you.

I don''t think it is. The stone has to be moved for the different images. Remember that the diamond is sitting crown up for ASET and IS and pavillion up for hearts--which means that the diamond will be resting on the table, keeping it pretty straight. You are right that the ASET is very slightly tilted--keeping a diamond straight while sitting on the pavillion has got to be a challenge for the photogs.

Totally agree with the last statement. Whichever stone, vendor &/or price you feel more comfortable with is the way to go.

Ditto/ thritto

 

[Rocky3]

I appreciate all the comments.

Can anybody here determine if the cut quality is better on either diamond by the ASET and Idealscoppe images.

I''m wondering if the light performance on one is better than the other or if it''s too close to be distinguishable.

Thanks again.

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 6/27/2009 1:40:16 PM
Author: Rocky3
I appreciate all the comments.

Can anybody here determine if the cut quality is better on either diamond by the ASET and Idealscoppe images.

I'm wondering if the light performance on one is better than the other or if it's too close to be distinguishable.

Thanks again.

When you get to this level, it is really hairsplitting - both diamonds are beautiful and should be top performers, you can't go wrong with either. It comes down to which you prefer, and also which vendor you are most comfortable purchasing with plus their benefits.

 

[Rocky3]

Thanks for the tip/advice Lorelei!

I was a bit confused because the BDG ASET/IS/Hearts pics were so crisp looking and looked like less light leakage. But maybe i''m just nit picking. Do you think the hearts are a bit less uniform in the WF diamond?

 

[Gypsy]

Rocky, here's the thing, for me anyway.

In terms of visible performance... would Brian (who is the inventor of the ACA line and of course the BGD Signature Line) be able to tell the difference? Probably. Would the average person? As Lorelei said, hair splitting in terms of the actual diamond.

But what does seem to be obvious for me is that you are concerned about more than just the actual diamonds in question. I think the reason you are torn is because you want the stones to be "mind clean" for you. And that's not something we can advise you on.

I can lay the intangibles out for you and you can rank them in order of your preference, because it's only something you can decide.

1. One stone has higher color and clarity and a more slightly more precise 'crisper' cutting as you said, which means that it's rarer and for some cultures or individuals that is really important.
2. One stone is less expensive, the meaning of which is pretty obvious (

)
3. One stone is personally chosen by the inventor of the both lines and from his own company, run by his standards.
4. One stone is slightly larger than the other.
4. Both companies have nice selections of settings.

I think what it comes down to... is what is more important to you? Rarity of D VS1 and Brian's personal oversight versus a Financial savings and slightly larger size. We can't tell you which one is going to be the right decision for you. But we can tell you that either way you will get a lovely diamond that will make your lady smile.

 

[Rocky3]

Thanks Gypsy for the comments.

Yeh, I too think I''m a little hung over it being mind clean. But moreso, I think I was just uncertain if one stone would clearly perform better than the other. I think I have my answer now from you and others. Both stones to a regular non-expert gemologist would likely look/perform the same. Like, you just said, most likely only an awesome cutter like Brian would be able to discern such small differences at this high level of cutting.

I just wanted to make other more knowledgeable people like yourself, didn''t see something of concern with the ASET/IS/Hearts/Etc images/reports that I did not. Like, "Hey watch out for on that stone due to as per that ."

But it sounds as though everybody thinks both stones are pretty even. So thanks for all the posts. I know my girl will like anything I get. I just want to do the best I can to get the most light dazzling stone I can for her.

You all have been extremely helpful. Thank you so much.

 

[Gypsy]

Date: 6/28/2009 4:05:30 AM
Author: Rocky3
Thanks Gypsy for the comments.

Yeh, I too think I''m a little hung over it being mind clean. But moreso, I think I was just uncertain if one stone would clearly perform better than the other. I think I have my answer now from you and others. Both stones to a regular non-expert gemologist would likely look/perform the same. Like, you just said, most likely only an awesome cutter like Brian would be able to discern such small differences at this high level of cutting.

I just wanted to make other more knowledgeable people like yourself, didn''t see something of concern with the ASET/IS/Hearts/Etc images/reports that I did not. Like, ''Hey watch out for on that stone due to as per that .''

But it sounds as though everybody thinks both stones are pretty even. So thanks for all the posts. I know my girl will like anything I get. I just want to do the best I can to get the most light dazzling stone I can for her.

You all have been extremely helpful. Thank you so much.

Anytime!

It''s a lot of money, and big emotional decision... and your lady is going to be amazed when she opens that box, no matter which you get her because it''s coming from you. Just remember that, take a deep breath, and go for whichever feels right FOR YOU.

 

[Lorelei]

Glad to help, Gypsy brought up some great points too!

 

[butterfly 17]

Date: 6/27/2009 1:09:10 AM
Author: Rocky3
Been staring at these two diamond reports all day and still can''t find an answer.

Has anybody bought an ACA from Whiteflash post January 2009? If so how was the quality?

I just got my diamond from WF in May. I previously had an 2 carat ACA that I purchased in 2003. The quality is excellent. I honestly don''t notice a difference between the old one and the new one. One being from the Brian times and the other being post Brian, and I can tell you, I am extremely extremely picky.

As far I know, aren''t the stones cut in Antwerp, not by Brian himself, at least not anymore, so if you are purchasing a stone because Brian personally chose it, great! But that doesn''t mean you have to rule out every single other stone out there as a noncontender. Just because Brian didn''t pick it, doesn''t necessarily make it a bad stone or inferior stone. I would not hesitate to purchase a stone from either company, or from GOG either.

And for all you know, perhaps if that stock had been available, Ie, the diamond cutter over at Antwerp called BGD and said they had an E VS2 1.37 just cut with sweet numbers, etc., perhaps Brian would be selling it on the BGD side of the inventory.

I don''t think you can go wrong with either stone and I personally would go with the slightly larger stone and put the money towards the setting. But what do I know, I have an H!

Why not have both stones sent to an idependent appraiser or even to yourself and then you can compare both to see which you like better.

 

[Rocky3]

Butterfly, thanks!

I''m glad you found the 2009 ACA just as good as pre-2009.

You''ve just helped me answer a big question mark I had. I was running searches post 2009 about WF and didn''t see any real positive comments like I did pre-2009. Most of the posts I found were more, "help me decide between these WF diamonds" not the stuff posted in previous years like, "I just got my AMAZING WF dimaond today!". On top of that some posts were mentioning "possible" quality issues or control standard variations.

Anyways, I would not have went on those searches alone. So your experience really helps me!

You are right, both WF and BGD, have tremeondous customer service. And I was working with GOG actually first early on and would highly recommend them as well.

You''re right as well about the diamonds being cut out of Antwerp under the specific cut guidelines of both companies as far as I''ve been told.

Pricescopers are the best!

 

[Rocky3]

Date: 6/26/2009 8:49:05 PM
Author: the tree sees
Yikes, I wrote that with an incredible lack of clarity, sorry Jet. Just meant to say that it''s common; my mind was obviously someplace else. Either way, both stones are terrific! I''m out for the night, but the hard part of finding a great stone is over, Rocky--I''m looking forward to seeing which one you choose!

Big decision will be today! Will let you guys know which I choose! Thanks for all the help!

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 6/29/2009 4:48:04 AM
Author: Rocky3

Date: 6/26/2009 8:49:05 PM
Author: the tree sees
Yikes, I wrote that with an incredible lack of clarity, sorry Jet. Just meant to say that it''s common; my mind was obviously someplace else. Either way, both stones are terrific! I''m out for the night, but the hard part of finding a great stone is over, Rocky--I''m looking forward to seeing which one you choose!

Big decision will be today! Will let you guys know which I choose! Thanks for all the help!

Good luck Rocky!