REALLY need help some opinions on these two great stones!!!

[Rocky3]

Hi All,

I''ve been looking for the right diamond forever now and all of a sudden two really good ones have come up. The problem is they are SO CLOSE I''m having great problems deciding.

Both vendors have been fabulous. I don''t have the reports yet I''m pretty certain they will both be very close there as well. Here they are:


1.374, E, VS2 ACA from WF vs. 1.27, D, VS1 Signature H&A from Brian Gavin Diamonds

There is currently a price difference of about $2500. The 1.27 is more.

So both of these seem really close and I figure in all honesty, I won''t be able to see the difference between the two. What do you guys and gals think?

Is it really going to come down to a preference of getting a bit bigger diamond versus a little smaller but with better colour and clarity? Just a personal preference of which is more important to the buyer? Or is one a bit more desirable in your opinions? Which would you choose?

Any and all opinions and advice welcome!

 

[stone-cold11]

Date: 6/25/2009 5:37:17 PM
Author:Rocky3

Is it really going to come down to a preference of getting a bit bigger diamond versus a little smaller but with better colour and clarity? Just a personal preference of which is more important to the buyer? Or is one a bit more desirable in your opinions? Which would you choose?

You nailed it. Also who has the setting that you like best. Good luck in deciding.

 

[Rocky3]

They both can get the same setting I want. So it''s a non-issue!

 

[the tree sees]

Hmm . . .

Well, I guess I'd consider at least these two factors:

(1) With whom might you want to work in the future? I believe they both have generous upgrade policies, and although it's hard to think about upgrading when you haven't even bought the stone yet, it seems a worthwhile consideration.

(2) How much of a visual difference would the .10 carats make? Probably very little. If you post stats, maybe some experts can discuss the stones' respective spreads--how they "face up."

(P.S. - My vote is for BGD, as I am working with Lesley and Brian right now and can't laud their customer service enough).

 

[johnkorean]

While I have nothing but the highest of praises for Brian and Lesley, personally I''d go for the bigger cheaper WF diamond. I sure as heck can''t tell the difference between a D and an E, and even if I could, they''d have to be right next to each other. Same goes for VS1 vs. VS2: neither one of them should have any inclusions visible to the naked eye, and that''s all I care about.

Heck, if the bigger one were the more expensive one, I still might get it. Seeing as how it''s cheaper, it''s not even a question for me. But that''s personal preference.

You certainly can''t go wrong either way. I''ve only worked with Brian Gavin, but Lesley is an absolute pleasure to work with. Like I said, nothing but the highest of praises for Brian and Lesley.

 

[the tree sees]

Yes, it''s hard to say, especially without any more info. John is right about the color and clarity differences, though it''s always worthwhile to confirm with the vendor that a stone is totally eye-clean. I''d say wait for the reports, but make sure you keep both stones on hold in the meantime!

 

[Rocky3]

Thanks guys! Keep the opinions coming!

I''ll post more once I get the reports.

Agree with everybody that both Brian/Lesley and Traci at Whiteflash are absolute class individuals. Both are absolutely highly recommended, whichever diamond I wind up going with.

 

[chrono]

You can''t go wrong with either diamonds and vendors. I doubt you''ll notice the difference in colour, clarity and size. Personally, I''d take the slightly larger one and pocket the $2500 as savings or use it for the setting.

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 6/25/2009 5:37:17 PM
Author:Rocky3
Hi All,

I''ve been looking for the right diamond forever now and all of a sudden two really good ones have come up. The problem is they are SO CLOSE I''m having great problems deciding.

Both vendors have been fabulous. I don''t have the reports yet I''m pretty certain they will both be very close there as well. Here they are:


1.374, E, VS2 ACA from WF vs. 1.27, D, VS1 Signature H&A from Brian Gavin Diamonds

There is currently a price difference of about $2500. The 1.27 is more.

So both of these seem really close and I figure in all honesty, I won''t be able to see the difference between the two. What do you guys and gals think?

Is it really going to come down to a preference of getting a bit bigger diamond versus a little smaller but with better colour and clarity? Just a personal preference of which is more important to the buyer? Or is one a bit more desirable in your opinions? Which would you choose?

Any and all opinions and advice welcome!

Absolutely!

 

[jstarfireb]

If I were you, I''d look for one with G-H color and VS2-SI1 clarity and get an even bigger rock! You''re not likely to notice the color drop in such a well-cut stone. However, if these 2 are it, then I''d go with the larger, less expensive one.

 

[Rocky3]

Thanks for all the comments!

Here''s one of the stones:

http://www.whiteflash.com/hearts_arrows/Whiteflash-ACA-cut-diamond-2141790.htm#

I''ll post the info of the other stone when I get it.

Feedback?

 

[Rocky3]

Idealscope of the BGD stone.

 

[Rocky3]

Sarin of BGD.

 

[mrscushion]

Date: 6/25/2009 7:30:08 PM
Author: Chrono
You can''t go wrong with either diamonds and vendors. I doubt you''ll notice the difference in colour, clarity and size. Personally, I''d take the slightly larger one and pocket the $2500 as savings or use it for the setting.

Ditto.

 

[Gypsy]

Well, I'm not gonna comment on which stone to chose (so pardon the threadjack) as I'm not a round expert (though I like 'em

), but I was just clicking on the certificate from WF and noticed something different than others I've seen. Under the comments section it says the the diamond is inscribed as "Whiteflash"... not Whiteflash ACA, or ACA like previous diamonds of theirs. Has WF decided to move away from the ACA branding/standards or did they just change their inspription (does it cost more per letter to do it I wonder...lol) for some reason?

 

[Rocky3]

Hearts & Arrows from BDG

 

[the tree sees]

Both look good to me. Hopefully the experts will chime in too.

For the sake of completeness, do you have the ASET for the BGD stone?

 

[Rocky3]

WF Diamond pic 1

 

[Rocky3]

WF Diamond pic 2

 

[Rocky3]

WF Diamond pic 3

 

[Gypsy]

I think the hearts look slightly better on the BGD stone-- more even. Both are lovely though.

Which one do you like better?

 

[Allison D.]

Date: 6/26/2009 5:02:27 PM
Author: Gypsy

Under the comments section it says the the diamond is inscribed as 'Whiteflash'... not Whiteflash ACA, or ACA like previous diamonds of theirs. Has WF decided to move away from the ACA branding/standards or did they just change their inspription (does it cost more per letter to do it I wonder...lol) for some reason?

Gypsy, I'm happy to assure you that we haven't moved away from our brand.

The stone is actually inscribed Whiteflash ACA, but it wasn't correctly reflected on the grading report. We've been in touch with AGS about it, and they are reissuing the grading reports to correctly reflect it.

 

[Rocky3]

Is it just me or does the 1 o''clock heart at the top right corner of the WF stone look smaller than the others?

 

[Gypsy]

Date: 6/26/2009 5:56:17 PM
Author: Allison D.

Date: 6/26/2009 5:02:27 PM
Author: Gypsy

Under the comments section it says the the diamond is inscribed as ''Whiteflash''... not Whiteflash ACA, or ACA like previous diamonds of theirs. Has WF decided to move away from the ACA branding/standards or did they just change their inspription (does it cost more per letter to do it I wonder...lol) for some reason?

Gypsy, I''m happy to assure you that we haven''t moved away from our brand.

The stone is actually inscribed Whiteflash ACA, but it wasn''t correctly reflected on the grading report. We''ve been in touch with AGS about it, and they are reissuing the grading reports to correctly reflect it.

See, there you go. I knew there was an explanation.

 

[Gypsy]

Not just you. And the 11 o''clock looks off too. Didn''t want to say anything though.

Date: 6/26/2009 5:59:07 PM
Author: Rocky3
Is it just me or does the 1 o''clock heart at the top right corner of the WF stone look smaller than the others?

 

[Rocky3]

Last but not least, the BGD ASET.

Now after all these reports, anybody have any differing opinions?

To me the ASET, Idealscope, and Hearts look a bit better and more consistent on the BGD. But I have no idea if that really will effect the optics and don''t most people could tell the difference visually.....any experts around to shed more light on this?

 

[tyty333]

I''d go with the less expensive bigger stone...I can deal with the hearts being a little off for that amount of
money

.

 

[the tree sees]

Could the diamond have just been slightly tipped when WF took the hearts photo? The ASET seems to suggest so; notice the apparent (but not real) discrepancy in arrow lengths.

I think both are quality stones. Go with whichever one speaks more to you.

 

[jet2ks]

Date: 6/26/2009 7:05:17 PM
Author: the tree sees
Could the diamond have just been slightly tipped when WF took the hearts photo? The ASET seems to suggest so; notice the apparent (but not real) discrepancy in arrow lengths.

I think both are quality stones. Go with whichever one speaks more to you.

I don''t think it is. The stone has to be moved for the different images. Remember that the diamond is sitting crown up for ASET and IS and pavillion up for hearts--which means that the diamond will be resting on the table, keeping it pretty straight. You are right that the ASET is very slightly tilted--keeping a diamond straight while sitting on the pavillion has got to be a challenge for the photogs.

Totally agree with the last statement. Whichever stone, vendor &/or price you feel more comfortable with is the way to go.

 

[the tree sees]

Yikes, I wrote that with an incredible lack of clarity, sorry Jet. Just meant to say that it''s common; my mind was obviously someplace else. Either way, both stones are terrific! I''m out for the night, but the hard part of finding a great stone is over, Rocky--I''m looking forward to seeing which one you choose!