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Knots_RN

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Hi all,

Are these dimensions acceptable for this 2.08ct (XXX; 8.25 x 8.23) diamond?

Table- 58
Depth- 60.5
CA- 36
PA- 40.6

Image is here as well:

Screenshot_20190505-191131_Gallery.jpg

Thank you!
 
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I have no idea what is going on with that image, but something is wrong. Either there's some giant obstruction or the person taking the picture messed up. The lower half shouldn't be all red. You should see the arrows reflecting from top and bottom.

Can we see the certificate? The 36 crown is a bit steep, but might be ok because of the 40.6 pav.
 
I have no idea what is going on with that image, but something is wrong. Either there's some giant obstruction or the person taking the picture messed up. The lower half shouldn't be all red. You should see the arrows reflecting from top and bottom.

Can we see the certificate? The 36 crown is a bit steep, but might be ok because of the 40.6 pav.

I added the info, but somehow deleted the original picture. Apparently it was just the way the photo was taken. I did not notice anything abnormal in the actual diamond photo. Here is the link: https://www.jamesallen.com/mobile/l...-color-vvs2-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-6391257
 
Around 12k. Possibly; the goal is to work with them first (vast selection of stones and settings, upgrade credit). Do you have any suggestions? May I ask why you would pass on this stone? I am trying to figure out what to avoid in a diamond.
 
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Around 12k. Possibly; the goal is to work with them first. Do you have any suggestions? May I ask why you would pass on this stone? I am trying to figure out what to avoid in a diamond.
I can't exactly say. It just doesn't look great in the video. Not enough contrast maybe, or it might just be a bad video. Is there a reason you need to work with them? Their customer service has gone downhill fast such that I really don't recommend them anymore.

If you have wiggle room in the budget, I would recommend this instead 100%
https://www.hpdiamonds.com/en-us/diamonddetail/HPD10050

It's gorgeous, HP diamonds is the best of the best, and their stones are super ideal.

If no wiggle room in budget, then this one:
https://www.b2cjewels.com/dd/12478075/Round-Diamond-K-Color-VS2-Clarity

I would ask if B2C has ASET/IS images, but I really like this one overall.
 
I can't exactly say. It just doesn't look great in the video. Not enough contrast maybe, or it might just be a bad video. Is there a reason you need to work with them? Their customer service has gone downhill fast such that I really don't recommend them anymore.

If you have wiggle room in the budget, I would recommend this instead 100%
https://www.hpdiamonds.com/en-us/diamonddetail/HPD10050

It's gorgeous, HP diamonds is the best of the best, and their stones are super ideal.

If no wiggle room in budget, then this one:
https://www.b2cjewels.com/dd/12478075/Round-Diamond-K-Color-VS2-Clarity

I would ask if B2C has ASET/IS images, but I really like this one overall.

Not much wiggle room at this moment as half of the cost for the new diamond is already paid for by the previous stone when I purchase from JA.
 
That's the problem with JA, needing to spend 2x the amount for an upgrade. It's pretty restrictive, IMHO. WF and HP Diamonds have a $1 more upgrade policy, which is much better.

If you MUST stick with JA then that's ok, but we can't really help you as much since JA now hides all their certificates/info we need to recommend a stone. Would you be open to trying to sell your current diamond to a different vendor and then using them for a new stone? Obviously that sucks, but then you aren't stuck with a vendor that purposely tries to make it hard for customers to find decent stones.
 
It is frustrating, and I hope that this new practice will not be a permanent change. Do you have any suggestions on what to look for in measurements and pictures on a quality diamond? There is so much information out there (some of it conflicting) and the thought of spending this much and getting a dud is a great concern. If nothing is available with them, a different vendor would be the next step.
 
It is frustrating, and I hope that this new practice will not be a permanent change. Do you have any suggestions on what to look for in measurements and pictures on a quality diamond? There is so much information out there (some of it conflicting) and the thought of spending this much and getting a dud is a great concern. If nothing is available with them, a different vendor would be the next step.
yup, 100% we have a guide for rounds.

54-57 table
60-62.4 depth
43-35 crown
40.6-40.8 pavilion

Crown and Pav should be inverse (as one goes up, the other should go down). Though this isn't a hard and fast rule, it helps give you an idea of which stones will be better performers than others. So a 34 crown is best with a 40.8 pav angle, and vise versa. Double check that stones you like perform well on the HCA calculator (under "tools"), bc that will check how the angles work together.

For pictures, look at images of the stones I linked from whiteflash and HP Diamonds. Those are what super ideal stones look like (in terms of pics, ASET/IS images, etc). Those are the ideal options, and theoretically as close as you can get to stones looking like that is great.

EDIT. Unfortunately I think JA is making this idiocy a permenant change. See the recent thread on here about it, where the owner of JA essentially said he doesn't care if he loses the business of everyone on PS. They want consumers to not know what they are getting, and to buy overpriced trash. They are becoming a Kays/Zales/mall store, and they (for some insane reason) think that's in their best interest. Obviously we cant stop them, but it certainly makes me angry and unwilling to ever recommend them again.
 
Look at this JA diamond.
https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...k-color-vs1-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-6989993

Its cut is neater and more organized as the stones spin from just right of center, center, just left. See all the extra black areas in the center of the K vvs and the unsightly black “paddles” around the outer edges? The 2.0 looks better. Ask JA for the cert on the VS1 and share it here for better help.
 
Look at this JA diamond.
https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...k-color-vs1-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-6989993

Its cut is neater and more organized as the stones spin from just right of center, center, just left. See all the extra black areas in the center of the K vvs and the unsightly black “paddles” around the outer edges? The 2.0 looks better. Ask JA for the cert on the VS1 and share it here for better help.

Thank you all for helping out! For this stone the specs are:
Table- 56
CA- 36.5
PA- 41
Depth- 63.3
LGF- 80

Any thoughts on this one?: https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...-color-vvs2-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-7035552

Specs for this VVS2 K are:
Table- 57
Dep.-61.6
CA- 34.5
PA- 40.8
LGF- 75
 
yup, 100% we have a guide for rounds.

54-57 table
60-62.4 depth
43-35 crown
40.6-40.8 pavilion
Typo alert ;) lol :tongue:

34-35 crown! (up to 35.5 with 40.6 pavilion)

:))
 
Thank you all for helping out! For this stone the specs are:
Table- 56
CA- 36.5
PA- 41
Depth- 63.3
LGF- 80


Any thoughts on this one?: https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...-color-vvs2-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-7035552

Specs for this VVS2 K are:
Table- 57
Dep.-61.6
CA- 34.5
PA- 40.8
LGF- 75

The first bold one should be rejected. CA and PA are too high, and depth is too deep. Reject. The VVS2 K looks much better! Can they get you an ASET/IS?

Typo alert ;-) lol :tongue:

34-35 crown! (up to 35.5 with 40.6 pavilion)

:))

thanks for catching, I'm an idiot!
 
@lovedogs: It looks like this might be unavailable (hopefully someone has it on hold or something but does not buy it :pray:); in the event that I cannot get these images before buying a stone, based on what you see here (dimensions and video) would it be a decent baseline guideline to follow (hope that makes sense)? It looks like the IS images are only easily accessible if the diamonds are AGS certified (at least that is what I am noticing).
 
@lovedogs: It looks like this might be unavailable (hopefully someone has it on hold or something but does not buy it :pray:); in the event that I cannot get these images before buying a stone, based on what you see here (dimensions and video) would it be a decent baseline guideline to follow (hope that makes sense)? It looks like the IS images are only easily accessible if the diamonds are AGS certified (at least that is what I am noticing).
I think this is likely to be a really good stone. I hope a lurker didn't buy it before you (that happens sometimes, unfortunately). I think it's worth buying and seeing in person to make sure you love it and it lives up to your expectations.
 
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