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Radiant Cut Diamond Question - Feedback Appreciated

Enginerd2020

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Hi everyone,

Quick question - we were looking at this radiant cut diamond and low and behold it has been purchased. However, I would like to request if someone with more expertise could tell me if this would have been a good choice. I have been searching your forum for a few weeks now and have learned quite a bit about radiant cuts.

Our budget isn't necessarily high and we plan to do some sort of upgrade to the diamond throughout the years. From what I have gathered, I need to request an ASET image as soon as I start looking at a diamond and think it may be a good choice.

If they are unable to get us an image - time to move on. We are fairly housebound right now due to a 9 month old baby girl so it is difficult to go see diamonds in person at this moment. Our anniversary is coming up soon and we would hope we could select a diamond in the next month or so.

Here is a diamond we almost decided on:

Critical feedback welcome :)
 
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kb1gra

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I have a confession to make: I have never gotten an ASET for a stone that I've purchased.

Here's why: fancies, generally, have light return that is varying degrees of "not that great" but inherent to the cut.

The good news: there is a radiant currently on the market that I've been resisting buying for weeks, that is close to your budget (I presume, based on the price of the one you missed out on) and is absolutely gorgeous.


As for radiants, there's a huge variety of flavors. My personal favorite is this one above, which is a step crown with brilliant pavilion, similar to the new Tiffany "True" cut.

There's a few others like it, here is a higher color but lower clarity, if color is significant to you: https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/radiant-cut/0.70-carat-d-color-si1-clarity-sku-8852276

There are others, the vast majority are the more elongated short and long main radiants like you've found here. You are looking for a clear, even facet pattern and longer pavilion mains to get rid of the "bow tie" effect. Here's a square H&A: https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/radiant-cut/0.73-carat-g-color-vs1-clarity-sku-8871966

Here's a decent cut corner princess, if that floats your boat: https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/radiant-cut/0.70-carat-e-color-vs2-clarity-sku-7425521

You are looking for distinct faceting with no "flat" areas where the stone just looks blurry. You want the faceting to be even, not large short mains with a bunch of small glittery facets around. Here is a decent example, though I'm not necessarily recommending this specific stone, you can clearly see all the pavilion facets as you move left to right, without a dark "quarter" window: https://www.adiamor.com/Diamonds/0.7-ct-F-VS2-Excellent-Cut-Radiant-Diamond/D45198072?rfr=search


There's pretty much nothing great on BlueNile at the moment, are you married to them as a retailer?
 

tyty333

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The stone you picked is not a stone I would have recommended.

We can help you look for stones that have good/better light return.

Edit...just now seeing that @kb1gra has posted some nice ones. Let us know what look you like.
 
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Enginerd2020

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Thank you for the replies! We are not tied down to any retailer specifically. I'm not sure how we got to them in the first place.

I appreciate the examples.We really like the square radiant H&A.

I think you've helped us immensely and I now have a better idea of what to look for!


Would you recommend purchasing the stone loose and then taking it to a jeweler to be set? Or is there a way to purchase the stone loose and send it back to be set once we find the one we like?
 

lovedogs

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Thank you for the replies! We are not tied down to any retailer specifically. I'm not sure how we got to them in the first place.

I appreciate the examples.We really like the square radiant H&A.

I think you've helped us immensely and I now have a better idea of what to look for!


Would you recommend purchasing the stone loose and then taking it to a jeweler to be set? Or is there a way to purchase the stone loose and send it back to be set once we find the one we like?
I would try to find stone and setting from the same place and get it set before it is sent to you. So if you like any of the JA options above I would look at their setting options too.
 

kb1gra

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Thank you for the replies! We are not tied down to any retailer specifically. I'm not sure how we got to them in the first place.

I appreciate the examples.We really like the square radiant H&A.

I think you've helped us immensely and I now have a better idea of what to look for!


Would you recommend purchasing the stone loose and then taking it to a jeweler to be set? Or is there a way to purchase the stone loose and send it back to be set once we find the one we like?
Often the same stone can also be found in more than one place. I have a couple pieces from Adiamor and found their selection of settings to be a lot more complete than James Allen's and they also do custom work.

If you like the square radiant, let me see what they have it priced at...

Huh, I'm having no luck finding that one at another retailer. Will keep poking...

further edit: Sam at Adiamor is looking into that one for you. These are not tremendously easy to find - they were more prevalent a few years ago but pretty rare now - so if you like that one, it is probably one of a few on the market at the moment.
 
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Enginerd2020

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Good evening! Sorry it's been a busy day.

I started looking around for another radiant cut H&A and haven't had much luck either. Then again, I probably am not as well-versed at this as you.

I did have a question regarding the diamond you linked... How does the medium florescence do with G color? From what I have read it is better in an I color diamond. However, the example was near-colorless G and medium florescence. Will this have a negligible effect?

Thanks again for being so interested.
 

kb1gra

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Good evening! Sorry it's been a busy day.

I started looking around for another radiant cut H&A and haven't had much luck either. Then again, I probably am not as well-versed at this as you.

I did have a question regarding the diamond you linked... How does the medium florescence do with G color? From what I have read it is better in an I color diamond. However, the example was near-colorless G and medium florescence. Will this have a negligible effect?

Thanks again for being so interested.
It shouldn't have a negative effect, though it does affect the price. A G is only 2 color grades less color than an I - so unlikely to be a problem.
 

tyty333

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Someone on PS has either a radiant H&A or a cushion H&A and its really beautiful. Let me see if I can find...

Edit...here it is. Really a stunning looking ring IMO! Belongs to @diamondhoarder
 
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kb1gra

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Does anyone have any links for a radiant with the hearts & arrows type pattern in a setting?
the Tiffany True is a square radiant shape, so there's some pics in those threads:


here's a video about Brellias, which is a branded square hearts and arrows:

 

josieKat

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This might be too high out of your budget, and possibly not clean enough, but since there are a number of people looking for radiants right now, I thought I'd post this pretty one:

 
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