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I actually like that one better than the first one, because I prefer cut corners on the halo.
LOLDate: 10/7/2007 4:29:16 PM
Author: sera
Glad to hear you won''t be going with that jeweler, rainydaze. He talked me out of your business as well! If the Eli is what you decide on (and btw, parkerj, that ring is gorgeous! I couldn''t see the beauty of their rings in that first pic), then there are plenty of places, like Pearlman''s, where you could bring your business.Date: 10/6/2007 5:37:41 PM
Author: rainydaze
Date: 10/6/2007 3:46:39 AM
Author: sera
I voted for the Ritani because I trust their craftsmanship and I prefer the thinner band. If the craftsmanship on the other ring can be trusted as well, then it would just be a matter of what you prefer- a thicker band or thinner band.
The jeweler wants to make your diamond fit into a bezel that was for a diamond .08ct larger? I don''t know how noticeable the difference would be, but I would certainly prefer it to be made for my diamond. Really, that would be a determining factor for me in favor of the Ritani if I liked both rings.
yeah.... the first time i saw the eli, i asked a couple of times if he would send my diamond in and have eli set it. even though he didn''t seem too familiar with eli, he said sure, sure, we wouldn''t want to go fitting a square peg into a round hole - you definitely want them to make it to fit your diamond perfectly OR we would take all the info about your diamond, have them build you a new ring, and when it arrives here you can take a look and make sure it looks perfect. so there are no surprises. then we''ll have OUR jeweler set your diamond, and you won''t be without your diamond for more than a day or two. (i don''t care about this, it''s loose anyway. but they selectively forget that i tell them i want it sent in and i DON''T mind waiting).
then, when i went back in the next day to look at it again and compare it to the ritani, his story changed. this time he was saying they''d take out the diamond they had in there (1.1ct) and put my diamond right in (1.02ct) and it would be GREAT, i wouldn''t have to wait! um, huh? yesterday you were all for getting me a brand new setting to fit my diamond perfectly. and i told you this is what i wanted to do, more than once. and NOW suddenly your pushing THIS setting? ugh. AND he had given me pricing the first time, with the understanding i would be ordering a brand new setting made, but again his story changed. on the second day when i said ''well, i would still prefer a new setting be made.'' he acted surprised and a little put out and said ''oh, well i didn''t PRICE it THAT way.'' in other words, his pricing was subject to change now and he was using that angle to ''scare'' me into the sale. whatever, i was still deciding what i even liked, so i wasn''t even getting into the nitty gritty of his pricing. it was in the ballpark, at that point that was all i needed to know if i could consider the eli or not.
no, my intention is to have the designer make a new setting to fit my stone. this guy pretty much talked himself out of my business by changing his story and wanting to fit my (rectangular princess) into a space already occupied by another stone that is a different size AND looked to be square. not to mention my concerns about disturbing the melee with all this in and out of center diamonds. there are two other jewelers locally who can get eli and would have to special order the setting anyway as they only carry eli''s fashion line in-store. and i spoke with bill pearlman and though they don''t offer them anymore, he can also still get it for me. i''m just waiting for his pricing.
on that note: pricing doesn''t help me make this decision either. the ritani set (halo and matching band) together cost about the same as the eli (which can be worn alone) so it''s pretty much a wash in that regard.
i should have added one more choice to the poll: let my husband choose which one and surprise me.
Hopefully a larger pic of the ring you''re interested in can be found. Going by parkerj''s pic, it is very detailed and looks unique.
It looks like either would be a great choice... I should vote again so I have one vote for the Ritani and one for the Eliwhich is no help to you lol. Those who know of Eli seem to trust their craftsmanship, the cost of either is not a determining factor, so it really is about what you prefer (or your hubby if you let him choose).
oh man, that is gorgeous! i LOVE that one too! the only one i''ve seen in person is the one i originally posted.Date: 10/7/2007 7:32:52 PM
Author: sera
The pic you posted is so small, it''s not a split shank like parkerj''s, is it?
I love this pic...
thank you for the kind words..... honestly it REALLY was easier choosing my DH!!!!Date: 10/7/2007 10:11:54 PM
Author: diamondseeker2006
Oh, honey, believe me, so many of us have been there...and some still are! Choosing a setting is very difficult. I thankfully have mine set in something simple I can wear, but I haven''t ever decided on the permanent, dream setting either!
Date: 10/7/2007 10:09:04 PM
Author: rainydaze
oh somebody just slap me. i am all over the place. and i DID have it all figured out!! i am actually at the point where i am quite fed up with this and with myself.
Ok, well that makes me feel a little better.Date: 10/7/2007 10:24:02 PM
Author: Gypsy
Oh honey, trust me we understand. I''m just days away from getting the custom setting that, after 4 years of indecision, I decided to have made... and my stomach is in KNOTS, absolute KNOTS, dwelling on whether or not I should have agreed to the 2 mm halo side width, or gone with the 1 mm side view halo width.It''s quite ridiculous how HARD the setting decision is, as many of us well know.
LOL. Glad to be of service. One millimeter and it's driving me batty... so no worries about three sided pave until you actually find yourself in a dream about a millimeter! There are more of us than you would think, who have had a very very hard time deciding on a setting. Some ponder it to death while wearing a simple and 'temporary' setting(me), others just switch settings and stones frequently until a) they've found it... or are so financially invested in a setting or stone that they have to give it a rest... for a while. Plus there are the lucky ones (not that we aren't all lucky, we truly are) who can have multiple diamond rings... a round, a princess and an emerald for example... etc, so that they can enjoy variety to their hearts content-- especially if they upgrade abilites on those.Date: 10/8/2007 12:32:21 AM
Author: sera
Ok, well that makes me feel a little better.Date: 10/7/2007 10:24:02 PM
Author: Gypsy
Oh honey, trust me we understand. I'm just days away from getting the custom setting that, after 4 years of indecision, I decided to have made... and my stomach is in KNOTS, absolute KNOTS, dwelling on whether or not I should have agreed to the 2 mm halo side width, or gone with the 1 mm side view halo width.It's quite ridiculous how HARD the setting decision is, as many of us well know.
OY... well, good to know I''m not alone.Date: 10/8/2007 12:44:56 AM
Author: Gypsy
LOL. Glad to be of service. One millimeter and it''s driving me batty... so no worries about three sided pave until you actually find yourself in a dream about a millimeter! There are more of us than you would think, who have had a very very hard time deciding on a setting. Some ponder it to death while wearing a simple and ''temporary'' setting(me), others just switch settings and stones frequently until a) they''ve found it... or are so financially invested in a setting or stone that they have to give it a rest... for a while. Plus there are the lucky ones (not that we aren''t all lucky, we truly are) who can have multiple diamond rings... a round, a princess and an emerald for example... etc, so that they can enjoy variety to their hearts content-- especially if they upgrade abilites on those.Date: 10/8/2007 12:32:21 AM
Author: sera
Date: 10/7/2007 10:24:02 PM
Author: Gypsy
Oh honey, trust me we understand. I''m just days away from getting the custom setting that, after 4 years of indecision, I decided to have made... and my stomach is in KNOTS, absolute KNOTS, dwelling on whether or not I should have agreed to the 2 mm halo side width, or gone with the 1 mm side view halo width.It''s quite ridiculous how HARD the setting decision is, as many of us well know.
Ok, well that makes me feel a little better.We are a unique bunch, and you fit RIGHT in.
ROFLMAO....... birds of a feather!!!Date: 10/8/2007 12:31:14 AM
Author: sera
Date: 10/7/2007 10:09:04 PM
Author: rainydaze
oh somebody just slap me. i am all over the place. and i DID have it all figured out!! i am actually at the point where i am quite fed up with this and with myself.
Well, if it makes you feel any better... I''m all over the place too and have had it all figured out a many times! Tacori. Yellow diamond accents. No, Simon G. Pink diamond accents. Custom. Simon G. Asscher center. Something-squarish-center. Pear sides. Half moon sides. Trap sides. Solitaire. Halo. No halo. Simon G. Leon Mege 3-sided pave set. Leon Mege 1-sided pave set. Ritani shared single prong. Simon G. Leon Mege 3-sided pave. Stacking rings. Maytal Hannah. Leon Mege 5 stone. No, I don''t like it with a square center. Simon G. Leon Mege something. Hmmm... I really like the Eli with those stones set in that split shank.''
hi gypsy - i can''t tell you how many times i''ve drawn out 1.5mm, 2mm, 2.5mm and tried to figure out how each looks. funny how such a minute detail can seem to make or break something! well, you are being incredibly patient. i hope this week goes by fast and you can go back to pleasant dreams having NOTHING to do with millimeters!!Date: 10/8/2007 12:44:56 AM
Author: Gypsy
LOL. Glad to be of service. One millimeter and it''s driving me batty... so no worries about three sided pave until you actually find yourself in a dream about a millimeter! There are more of us than you would think, who have had a very very hard time deciding on a setting. Some ponder it to death while wearing a simple and ''temporary'' setting(me), others just switch settings and stones frequently until a) they''ve found it... or are so financially invested in a setting or stone that they have to give it a rest... for a while. Plus there are the lucky ones (not that we aren''t all lucky, we truly are) who can have multiple diamond rings... a round, a princess and an emerald for example... etc, so that they can enjoy variety to their hearts content-- especially if they upgrade abilites on those.Date: 10/8/2007 12:32:21 AM
Author: sera
Ok, well that makes me feel a little better.Date: 10/7/2007 10:24:02 PM
Author: Gypsy
Oh honey, trust me we understand. I''m just days away from getting the custom setting that, after 4 years of indecision, I decided to have made... and my stomach is in KNOTS, absolute KNOTS, dwelling on whether or not I should have agreed to the 2 mm halo side width, or gone with the 1 mm side view halo width.It''s quite ridiculous how HARD the setting decision is, as many of us well know.
We are a unique bunch, and you fit RIGHT in.
Rainy, first, I bet Pearlmans can get you Eli still, and I would totally check with him and see if he can cause I would in a heartbeat, prefer him to any of the vendors you''ve mentioned. Sorry you got excited about my setting, after four years the week seems like tomorrow for me, but I understand it''s not like that for everyone. As for the giant pics.. EXACTLY. I want to see it ''realtime'' before I examine in under a huge magnifying lens. I know it''s going to stand up... but since delicacy is the hallmark of my setting... seeing it huge might make me more anxious about that, and I want to avoid it at all costs. I can''t wait though. But for now... will the 2 mm bright cut side be just right, or should I have gone with a 1 mm highpolish.
ROFLMAO.
ETA: Rainy I''ve been drooling over that Pearlman''s setting. I want it for a colored stone center... or for someone who posts and says they want an affordable east west halo for a smaller oval.
sure! my goodness, that was so nice of you to call - thank you!!Date: 10/8/2007 9:08:16 AM
Author: parkerj
Hi Rainy-
I just called my jeweler and asked him if he had the Eli piece in his store that was in the picture (or the one with a squared corner halo). He said he was familiar with that ring and thought he had something similar in the store. If you email him, he can send you a picture of what he has. He also said he could order any piece you wanted but because they are all custom made, once its ordered its yours. If you''ve seen it in person and love it, there are no worries. He''s an honest guy and his family owns the store. His prices are fair and he''ll tell you the truth. I know he works with clients all over the country for the same reasons you have. Would you like his name and email?
Parker
lol.... you have NO idea. first i decided i would have my husband decide which one and i would be surprised, since i seemed to love them equally. i said i would do this as much as to take a load off as to see if i found myself hoping he''d order one over the other. sure enough, once i decided to handle it this way i found myself feeling like ''oh, i hope he orders the eli!'' ok, so my decision was made then. nope, the next day i was feeling like ''oh, but you can see the culet on the ritani, and more light can get in, i hope he orders THAT one!'' and so it went. scratch the ''DH choosing'' idea.Date: 10/8/2007 8:04:37 AM
Author: parkerj
Here''s a trick that I do when I need to decide on something: write down the settings you are thinking of on pieces of paper and fold them over. close your eyes and choose one. If you are excited about the one you chose, then that''s it. If you are disappointed by the one you chose, then it''s not it! Crazy, but it helps me to get to the core of my feelings. ha.
Parker
Date: 10/7/2007 7:32:52 PM
Author: sera
The pic you posted is so small, it''s not a split shank like parkerj''s, is it?
I love this pic...
Date: 10/7/2007 10:23:45 PM
Author: rainydaze
Date: 10/7/2007 10:11:54 PM
Author: diamondseeker2006
Oh, honey, believe me, so many of us have been there...and some still are! Choosing a setting is very difficult. I thankfully have mine set in something simple I can wear, but I haven't ever decided on the permanent, dream setting either!
thank you for the kind words..... honestly it REALLY was easier choosing my DH!!!!
ROFLMAO....... seriously! my DH called out from the other room ''what is so funny?!?'' thank you for that!Date: 10/8/2007 3:39:11 PM
Author: WorkingHardforSmallRewards
Date: 10/7/2007 10:23:45 PM
Author: rainydaze
Date: 10/7/2007 10:11:54 PM
Author: diamondseeker2006
Oh, honey, believe me, so many of us have been there...and some still are! Choosing a setting is very difficult. I thankfully have mine set in something simple I can wear, but I haven''t ever decided on the permanent, dream setting either!
thank you for the kind words..... honestly it REALLY was easier choosing my DH!!!!
If they ever start selling husbands on the internet that might change. I can just see everybody talking about James and Howards IS imagesand discussing how various Length length to Arm length to Shoulder width ratios will impact performance.
and then of course if you call in for a reservation to choose between a couple of prime candidates in person you can''t just make a decision based on how they will look in the store suit. You would have to try to see them in various clothing and postures, in pajamas, bathing suit, khakis and loose shirt, laying down, picking up boxes, etc etc...lots of studying.
I hate to say it, but that idea brought to mind all kinds of other thoughts about performance, etc. But I am too conservative to post it.Date: 10/8/2007 7:27:44 PM
Author: rainydaze
ROFLMAO....... seriously! my DH called out from the other room ''what is so funny?!?'' thank you for that!Date: 10/8/2007 3:39:11 PM
Author: WorkingHardforSmallRewards
If they ever start selling husbands on the internet that might change. I can just see everybody talking about James and Howards IS imagesand discussing how various Length length to Arm length to Shoulder width ratios will impact performance.
and then of course if you call in for a reservation to choose between a couple of prime candidates in person you can''t just make a decision based on how they will look in the store suit. You would have to try to see them in various clothing and postures, in pajamas, bathing suit, khakis and loose shirt, laying down, picking up boxes, etc etc...lots of studying.
Date: 10/8/2007 2:26:05 PM
Author: mrssalvo
hey rainydaze, have you asked Bill his opinion? there have been a couple of settings I''ve emailed Bill about and he told me quite honestly that no, that wouldn''t be a good choice for you b/c .....whatever the reason was at the time. Of course, I have spent some time at Pearlmans so he''s got a pretty good idea of my tastes which helps, but i''d bet he''d give you some pretty good information that might just help make your decision easier. Let him know your lifestyle, how much you want to wear the ring, how you want it to appear to others etc. and just see if he might be able to tip the scale for you.
believe me, I have agonized over settings the exact same way, even giving the job to hubby and then taking it back, giving it to him again etc. at some point you''re going to have to accept that there are hundreds if not thousands of gorgeous setting out there, there may not be the perfect one because you love so many (me included). you''re just going to have to decide and then stop looking b/c seeing all the new stuff is just torture. believe me, I so feel your pain....