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POLL: Do you find "I" colored MRB attractive

Do you find "I" colored MRB attractive

  • Yes

    Votes: 88 73.9%
  • No

    Votes: 31 26.1%

  • Total voters
    119

Niel

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I've seen a lot of first time buyers come here and wonder if going down to an I in color is a good idea. Often PS regulars say its a safe bet to save money and still have a stone look white. Yet some people say that's when you start to see tint. I think its been discussed enough on many different threads, but for a person buying their sweetie a ring, I think this might serve as a helpful thread to see if truly, in general, an"I" is a save bet. So my question is, do you find "I" color MRB attractive. I'd like to get a temperature of the room (is that how the saying goes? ? )
 
I'd love to know how others view I color too. However I think it's hard to say without looking at other equally if not more important factors like cut, size, price and fluor. Personally i love icy white stones so DEF really appeal to me. But i also find IJK stones attractive, not because of the color, but a combination of things like super ideal cut and impressive size. So I guess my answer is yes, I am open to I and I do find it attractive when it comes in a right combination.
 
When these types of threads are posted on another forum, people get upset. The people who say "no" risk offending those with I colored and lower diamonds. :errrr: :sick:


But I guess we can always vote anonymously :saint:
 
I've got an I with medum fluor and like it a lot. Granted, it's also a spectacular cut so that certainly helps. In the right combination (ideal cut, maybe some fluor, if it gets you to a bigger size...etc) then sure, why not? To each his/her own. If DEF is your cuppa, then that's fine too. My main concern is to go in with as much education and information as possible, anything less seems like a really poorly thought out purchase, but people do that too (many, in fact).

@Madelise- yes- it's true, if it's the forum I am thinking of, but they get upset over everything anyway and are generally undereducated on diamonds as well. I'd be more likely to take informed upsettedness seriously than uninformed upsettedness.
 
bastetcat|1375550364|3495987 said:
I've got an I with medum fluor and like it a lot. Granted, it's also a spectacular cut so that certainly helps.

In the right combination (ideal cut, maybe some fluor, if it gets you to a bigger size...etc) then sure, why not?

To each his/her own. If DEF is your cuppa, then that's fine too. My main concern is to go in with as much education and information as possible, anything less seems like a really poorly thought out purchase, but people do that too (many, in fact).

@Madelise- yes- it's true, if it's the forum I am thinking of, but they get upset over everything anyway and are generally undereducated on diamonds as well. I'd be more likely to take informed upsettedness seriously than uninformed upsettedness.

I agree with this 100%!!!

Although I love love LOVE icy white diamonds, I'm not willing to sacrifice size (and budget) to get them. Assuming both were eye clean, excellent cuts, and all light return factors equal, I would choose a 2.4 ct I over a 2 ct H. All day. ;)) ...but that's obvious because I have a J! :sun:

Of course, if money were no object, I'd be getting a 3.5+ ct XXX D-F/VS1!! :bigsmile:
 
Some want DEF color and are willing to pay more for it, happily accepting their smaller stone.
Some want DEF but drop down in the alphabet to get a larger stone ... some to I, and some to K and beyond ... same thing with clarity.
Some actually prefer lower color, and would still buy it if all colors were priced the same.

People just vary.

Even if the 'temperature of the room' was overwhelmingly, "I DO find I color MRB attractive" that doesn't mean that you will.
Then again, perhaps your priority is conforming to the majority as opposed to discovering and going with your personal preference on color.
Nothing wrong with that.
Lots of people do it, feeling there's safety in numbers.

I recommend going out to stores and comparing I-graded diamonds to other grades.
Only look at AGS and GIA graded stones since other labs are not as reliable on color grades.
I suspect when you see for yourself you won't give a hoot what anyone else thinks.
 
kenny|1375551605|3495998 said:
Some want DEF color and are willing to pay more for it, happily accepting their smaller stone.
Some want DEF but drop down in the alphabet to get a larger stone ... some to I, and some to K and beyond ... same with clarity.
Some actually like prefer lower color, and would still buy it if all colors were priced the same.

People vary.

Even if the temperature of the room was overwhelmingly, "I DO find I color MRB attractive" that doesn't mean you will.
Then again, perhaps your priority is conforming to the majority as opposed to paying attention to your personal feelings on color.
Nothing wrong with that.
Lots of people do it.

I recommend going out to stores and viewing diamonds graded I next to other grades.
Only look at AGS and GIA graded stones since other labs are not as reliable on color grades.
I suspect when you see for yourself you won't give a hoot what anyone else thinks.

Very well stated, kenny! :appl:
 
Well yes of course a welll cut MRB. I'm on Pricescope aren't I? :lol:



And yes when a group thinks isn't what one person think, necessarily. Obviously.


But As I said, I think it would be helful for people shipping for diamonds for the first time, wanting to surprise their sweetie, to know if its safe or not to assume shell like the color. Especially when they don't want her to know at all.

Not everyone likes pizza, but its safe to assume if I want to make it for a first date he will like it because most people do.

This is what I'm trying to do. Because, especially in America, ladies want size, and knowing you can't compromise on cut, I think knowing if most people find MRBs attractive would be helpful to knew buying when considering going down to an I to get more size.


Its a well assumed statement on pricescope that a G is a safe bet, though people vary, I want to see if the same can be said for "I" s
 
madelise|1375549877|3495983 said:
When these types of threads are posted on another forum, people get upset. The people who say "no" risk offending those with I colored and lower diamonds. :errrr: :sick:


But I guess we can always vote anonymously :saint:

Haha yes I won't get offended by the NOs, and I hope no one else does.

I find my K and my who-knows-whatcolor-probably-L just beautiful but I know people some people who would turn their nose up at them. But who cares! (You don't buy a marquise hoping for the popular vote anyways :lol: :lol: )

Just an educational poll that I'm hoping might be helpful to newbies with GFs that need big bling. :halo:
 
Yes, I do. I'm not too color sensitive, so I like J/K/L color too.
 
Niel|1375548585|3495979 said:
I've seen a lot of first time buyers come here and wonder if going down to an I in color is a good idea. Often PS regulars say its a safe bet to save money and still have a stone look white. Yet some people say that's when you start to see tint. I think its been discussed enough on many different threads, but for a person buying their sweetie a ring, I think this might serve as a helpful thread to see if truly, in general, an"I" is a save bet. So my question is, do you find "I" color MRB attractive. I'd like to get a temperature of the room (is that how the saying goes? ? )

Yes, I do think I colored well-cut round brilliant I color stones are attractive. There are some cuts and colors I'm not a fan of, but I don't think it would serve any good purpose to list those because I don't want to hurt anyone's feelings, which can easily be done unintentionally. But, that said, if I had a budget and to get the size I wanted, it would mean purchasing an I color, yes, I'd do so. (My preference is F-G colors.)
 
The icy DEF colors look too cool on my skin for my liking. I can detect the warmth in lower colors but I like it. My stones range from F to M with my ering ring being an H which is perfect for me.

But it all boils down to personal preference and cut. Square, deep and larger stone show color more, so my low color preference might change if I was looking at a 5 ct asscher!!!!
 
Yes I think an "I" is safe. After 8 or so years of marriage wearing an I diamond, I upgraded to a 2 ct. I bought a J at first and after wearing it for a week, the tint from the side really bothered me. When I went back to the jeweler, they were super understanding and made the comment that I was used to an I color. So that is what I ended up getting. Point being, it comes down to what you are used to and a lot of first time diamond wearers would most likely be thrilled with an I and wouldn't know the difference. Just my opinion of course but I love all the I diamonds I have owned and don't see anything but white. Of course, I would love to try a whiter diamond, but love the price point of an I! :loopy:
 
I investigated recently -- and wrote here about -- my original engagement diamond, graded AGS "3" for color -- I was surprised to learn that translates to GIA "J." It's a small diamond (0.43 ct), but an excellent cut, and it shows no yellow from top or sides. Before I looked for a table to link the grading, I had thought my diamond was an H -- I had imagined that anything less than H wouldn't be white enough for me. It's now set in a 3-stone with two slightly smaller J stones, and it's a beautiful, bright look. I'm sure the size of the individual stones makes a difference, and certainly their cuts, but I'm a believer in I/J!
 
I am a G/H man, but if I had the money I'll go up to E/F color.
 
Yes, I colored ideal cut MRB's are extremely attractive IMHO. I have had D, F, G and H colored diamonds in the past and have found that I colored MRB's are my sweet spot to get the maximum size for my budget parameters. All of my major diamonds (ER, studs) have been upgraded to larger I colors. :bigsmile:
 
One interesting thing became apparent to me when I started putting three to five diamonds on a slotted tray for people to look at and told them NOTHING about the diamonds, other than they were diamonds at and around the parameters that they had asked to look at.

I would put the stones in front of them and then let them tell me which they liked or did not like, using only their eyes, and not the paper.

Obviously, clarity had no affect until it became eye visible.

Cutting had the most affect with poorly cut stones being nearly universally excluded at first glance. (I could have said universally, but one time, ONE TIME a client said, I really like this one, it does not hurt my eyes like those other diamonds.)

Size was the next most important factor, and usually it was "The larger the better," but not always. Many have a size above which they do not want to go and actually prefer a smaller size, but they are much more the exception than the rule when looking at three to five diamonds of a small range of sizes.

Color was the factor that surprised me. At first I always expected the highest colors to be the preferred colors, but that simply was not the case. Even many people who told me they must have a D-E-F color often chose a diamond in the G-I color as their eye favorite diamond. (Some of them were not so happy with this discovery, others loved finding that they actually preferred the slightly warmer colors.) Of course, there were those who preferred higher colors who's eyes actually gravitated towards those colors too.

What it mainly taught me was that the eye knows what the eye likes, and all of the political correctness of knowing what you are supposed to like will not change what it actually likes. To know this for yourself you must SEE IT FOR YOURSELF! If you want the best chance to know what you really like, arrange for your jeweler to show you three or more similar stones in size and cutting quality with the primary change being that of color and choose the one you like in a "blind taste test. You will be glad that you did!

Wink
 
From the consumer perspective - SEE IT FOR YOURSELF - so, so true!!

I have a (well-cut) 0.8ct E (GIA) MRB. I bought it as a curio and I've kept it because I'm a diamond hoarder, but I don't like it and I don't plan to do anything with it. Part of the problem is that it's just too... white. Unrepentantly, blazingly, persistently white in every conceivable type of lighting. My Js show a 'darker', 'moodier', more 'chameleon' body colour that changes with the environment (I wish I had better descriptions), and for whatever reason my eyes interpret that as depth and character - and dismiss colourless stones as 'lacking'.

Tiffany's cutoff is I, so that's my personal "safe surprise" limit rec.
 
Thank you Wnk! Loved your post....

Personally contemplating what direction I will head in with my upgrade... " I" right now is getting the most consideration. :naughty:
 
kenny|1375551605|3495998 said:
Some want DEF color and are willing to pay more for it, happily accepting their smaller stone.
Some want DEF but drop down in the alphabet to get a larger stone ... some to I, and some to K and beyond ... same thing with clarity.
Some actually prefer lower color, and would still buy it if all colors were priced the same.

People just vary.

Even if the 'temperature of the room' was overwhelmingly, "I DO find I color MRB attractive" that doesn't mean that you will.
Then again, perhaps your priority is conforming to the majority as opposed to discovering and going with your personal preference on color.
Nothing wrong with that.
Lots of people do it, feeling there's safety in numbers.

I recommend going out to stores and comparing I-graded diamonds to other grades.
Only look at AGS and GIA graded stones since other labs are not as reliable on color grades.
I suspect when you see for yourself you won't give a hoot what anyone else thinks.

Absolutely 100% agree, didn't even read the rest of the responses. ;))
 
Yes. See avatar. :tongue:









No seriously, every one is different. You just have to see it for yourself to decide. There is not definitive response to this question, IMHO.
:wavey:
 
In the States I colored diamonds are more readily accepted. In Asian countries, they are a no go.
 
+ 1 to Wink. An outstanding cut can actually mask or hide colour. Undertone or body hue also has importance which most people don't understand.... As for me a high "I" used to be my threshold for RBs now I own older cuts I love them in that lower to mid range of colours. It funny because I used to hold ice white as the be all and end all for diamonds and now I can appreciate different stones for different things colour being less important than say an interesting or an amazing cut or shape.
 
I don't consider "I" color as yellow. It's more of a slight ivory-white, a pleasant color. Unless there is some objectionable green or other sallow body tint, I would find an I color RB perfectly acceptable.
 
My princess is an I and I cannot see any yellow, however I will admit after getting my 3 stone that are G and H and my 5 stone that are F's that I can see a tint..but its more ivory then yellow and I can tell you that when I wear my 5 stone and princess together you don't really notice it that much and I can guarantee that the general public (non PS people) would never be able to tell the difference. :appl:
 
I've been rethinking, though I love icy white, if I had X budget for an E, I'd most definitely going to use the budget on an I in order to get a bigger stone. So in reality I AM GOING TO PICK THE I despite my love for DEF. So subconsciously I do find I colored MRB attractive.
 
Re: POLL: Do you find "I" colored MRB attractive

I own a range of colors (but wish I had more!) and love them all! For me, an I is a great way to maximize size.
 
I love all diamonds as long as they have 'personality' and sparkle :bigsmile:
My preference shifted from icy white modern cuts to warm antique stones. I think an I MRB is lovely too, but I have to see a diamond with my own eyes first.
 
I think it's really hard to separate our feelings for color from color's effect on price and size.

IOW, do I like (or not mind) an I-colored diamond, or is it that going down in color gives me a larger diamond?
Getting a bigger and less expensive diamond has a huge psychological effect on the decision making process about which color to prefer.

The only way price and size can be removed from the question of, "liking lower color" is if magically all colors were the same price.
Since that's never going to happen IMO the question, "Do you find "I" colored MRB attractive" is by definition an impossible question.

IOW, the question cannot be asked in a bubble that assumes price and size do not influence the answer.
Hypothetically it can, but realistically it can't.
 
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