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arshad syed

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1​
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1.51​
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7.40 - 7.45 * 4.46​
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7.32 - 7.34 * 4.56​
58​
62.3​




DIamond 1:
1.51ct G VS2_ASET IMAGE.jpg1.51ct G VS2_IMAGE.jpg


diamond 2

1.51ct G VS2_LG589300623_ASET IMAGE.jpg1.51ct G VS2_LG589300623_Video.jpg

diamond 3

1.54ct G VS2_ASET IMAGE.jpg1.54ct G VS2_Image.jpg
 
We need copies of the paperwork (GIA, GCAL, IGI, etc.). The aset images are not taken properly I believe because they are
all showing major leakage (in other words, they are not helpful).
 
The crown angles are a bit off. Ideally, you want 34-35. One is low at 33, giving a shallow crown height of 12.5.
Here's the video:
https://loupe360.com/diamond/LG589300629

The others have crown angles over 35. Couldn't find videos. The experts might be able to say of any of the combos can still yield great light performance.

But this is just an assessment of the numbers. What do your eyes say? And personally, that one with the shallow crown angle looks kinda nice to my non-expert eyes. Let's see what other people say.
 
Hello and welcome to PriceScope, arshad syed!

First one is a 60/60 style cut ($554 at LooseGrownDiamond)
Can't find a video for it, but found a picture at Ritani:

1.51 Carat Round Lab Grown Diamond G Color VS2 Clarity Ideal Cut | Ritani

1.51 Carat Round Lab Diamond ID Cut G Color VS2 Clarity with diamond report number IGI #LG582349642
www.ritani.com www.ritani.com

Second one is $554 at LooseGrownDiamond.
It probably has the best potential out of the bunch in regards to the optics, but you need to get lots of videos in various lighting conditions and at various distances to make sure that it doesn't go hazy or cloudy in some of those lighting conditions...and ask for a better ASET image with proper backlighting, distance, and alignment.

Third one is $565 at LooseGrownDiamond...no pictures or videos.

Can we tray to help you find some better options to pick from for your budget?
 
0515vision said:
The crown angles are a bit off. Ideally, you want 34-35. One is low at 33, giving a shallow crown height of 12.5.
Here's the video:
https://loupe360.com/diamond/LG589300629

The others have crown angles over 35. Couldn't find videos. The experts might be able to say of any of the combos can still yield great light performance.

But this is just an assessment of the numbers. What do your eyes say? And personally, that one with the shallow crown angle looks kinda nice to my non-expert eyes. Let's see what other people say.
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Whoops! Wrong diamond! Sorry!
All those little numbers are hard to type in! :oops2:
It’s a miracle @DejaWiz that you're able to keep all the details straight for our benefit! As always, thanks! :clap::love:
 
DejaWiz said:
Hello and welcome to PriceScope, arshad syed!

First one is a 60/60 style cut ($554 at LooseGrownDiamond)
Can't find a video for it, but found a picture at Ritani:

1.51 Carat Round Lab Grown Diamond G Color VS2 Clarity Ideal Cut | Ritani

1.51 Carat Round Lab Diamond ID Cut G Color VS2 Clarity with diamond report number IGI #LG582349642
www.ritani.com www.ritani.com

Second one is $554 at LooseGrownDiamond.
It probably has the best potential out of the bunch in regards to the optics, but you need to get lots of videos in various lighting conditions and at various distances to make sure that it doesn't go hazy or cloudy in some of those lighting conditions...and ask for a better ASET image with proper backlighting, distance, and alignment.

Third one is $565 at LooseGrownDiamond...no pictures or videos.

Can we tray to help you find some better options to pick from for your budget?
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Thanks for you help!! I appreciate it. This is my first diamond ever. I am not sure where to start. I am trying to buy the diamond from a jeweler in india . The above diamonds are all around 1000$.I am looking for a diamond 1.5ct or 2 CT diamond. My budget would be around 1500 for the diamond. Yes that would be really helpful if you help me find one on Ritani.

Here is the video link for the second diamond.
 
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arshad syed said:
Thanks for you help!! I appreciate it. This is my first diamond ever. I am not sure where to start. I am trying to buy the diamond from a jeweler in india . The above diamonds are all around 1000$.I am looking for a diamond 1.5ct or 2 CT diamond. My budget would be around 1500 for the diamond. Yes that would be really helpful if you help me find one on Ritani.

Here is the video link for the second diamond.
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We can definitely help you get a diamond with much better proportions and optics for your budget!

Have a look at these...they are from LooseGrownDiamond, which is headquartered out of India, if I recall correctly.

Here's a pre-filtered search link:

Keep in mind that not all of the diamonds that appear in the search would be considered truly ideal ...each one will need to be assessed so that you can compile a list of candidates comprised of a small number of diamonds that would be the best out of them all.

Here is a great option, as an example:
(video link for this diamond: https://loupe360.com/diamond/2457902646 )

Another fine example:
 
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DejaWiz said:
We can definitely help you get a diamond with much better proportions and optics for your budget!

Have a look at these...they are from LooseGrownDiamond, which is headquartered out of India, if I recall correctly.

Here's a pre-filtered search link:

Keep in mind that not all of the diamonds that appear in the search would be considered truly ideal ...each one will need to be assessed so that you can compile a list of candidates comprised of a small number of diamonds that would be the best out of them all.

Here is a great option, as an example:
(video link for this diamond: https://loupe360.com/diamond/2457902646 )

Another fine example:
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Here is the 360 video link for the second diamond that I mentioned earlier
http://dview360.com/ShareView/DViewShare?id=977

This is how it looks in person
https://imgur.com/a/xndL54J


What do you think of this one?
 
The link doesn't seem to be working. But this is already a diamond with a crown angle over 35. You can see the light leakage under the table in real life, too, just like on the ASET.

Is that seller giving you a good price? Are those three stones the only ones you can seriously consider? Are we trying to find the best of those three?

Love @DejaWiz's selection's especially the 2.08.
 
0515vision said:
The link doesn't seem to be working. But this is already a diamond with a crown angle over 35. You can see the light leakage under the table in real life, too, just like on the ASET.

Is that seller giving you a good price? Are those three stones the only ones you can seriously consider? Are we trying to find the best of those three?

Love @DejaWiz's selection's especially the 2.08.
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Thanks for you help!! The seller doesn't have a website where I can browse the stuff. So he sent me around 5 diamonds. Then I shortlisted them to 3 based on the HCA score. It looks like none of those are good. Its not like I have to select from the above three diamonds. I will probably ask him to send couple of more diamonds. I don't know how to proceed .What criteria should I give him before ?
 
I’ve seen variations on this theme from the amazing @Kim N:

Crown angle 34-35
Pavilion angle 40.6-40.9
Depth 60.4-62.4
Table 55-58

I’ve also seen some ppl recommend certain pairings - I.e., don’t go too steep here if you’re going too deep there. I’m not an expert, so maybe someone else can comment on the parameters above.
 
0515vision said:
I’ve seen variations on this theme from the amazing @Kim N:

Crown angle 34-35
Pavilion angle 40.6-40.9
Depth 60.4-62.4
Table 55-58

I’ve also seen some ppl recommend certain pairings - I.e., don’t go too steep here if you’re going too deep there. I’m not an expert, so maybe someone else can comment on the parameters above.
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Hello.. My jeweler has sent me three diamonds based on the above proportions
Which one you think is better ? Thanks in advance!!

Diamond 1

1.62 Carat Round Lab Grown Diamond F Color VS1 Clarity Ideal Cut | Ritani

1.62 Carat Round Lab Diamond ID Cut F Color VS1 Clarity with diamond report number IGI #LG593397506
www.ritani.com www.ritani.com


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Diamond 2

1.50 Carat Round Lab Grown Diamond E Color VS1 Clarity Ideal Cut | Ritani

1.5 Carat Round Lab Diamond ID Cut E Color VS1 Clarity with diamond report number IGI #LG592323595
www.ritani.com www.ritani.com


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Diamond 3

1.54 Carat Round Lab Grown Diamond F Color VVS2 Clarity Ideal Cut | Ritani

1.54 Carat Round Lab Diamond ID Cut F Color VVS2 Clarity with diamond report number IGI #LG595368734
www.ritani.com www.ritani.com

 
arshad syed said:
Hello.. My jeweler has sent me three diamonds based on the above proportions
Which one you think is better ? Thanks in advance!!

Diamond 1

1.62 Carat Round Lab Grown Diamond F Color VS1 Clarity Ideal Cut | Ritani

1.62 Carat Round Lab Diamond ID Cut F Color VS1 Clarity with diamond report number IGI #LG593397506
www.ritani.com www.ritani.com


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Diamond 2

1.50 Carat Round Lab Grown Diamond E Color VS1 Clarity Ideal Cut | Ritani

1.5 Carat Round Lab Diamond ID Cut E Color VS1 Clarity with diamond report number IGI #LG592323595
www.ritani.com www.ritani.com


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Diamond 3

1.54 Carat Round Lab Grown Diamond F Color VVS2 Clarity Ideal Cut | Ritani

1.54 Carat Round Lab Diamond ID Cut F Color VVS2 Clarity with diamond report number IGI #LG595368734
www.ritani.com www.ritani.com

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How about a 2 carat graded by GIA for same or less than some of these?
Video:

2.08 Carat E VS2 Round Brilliant Lab Grown Diamond GIA Certified 6465375785 Affinity Cut - D53177864

2.08 carat, Round, E Color, VS2 clarity, GIA Certified Diamond, Affinity Cut Lab Grown Diamond, D53177864
www.adiamor.com www.adiamor.com
 
Hello Dejawiz,

Thanks for your effort. I will stick to the diamonds that my jeweler has sent me. What do you think of those? which one looks better ?
 
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arshad syed said:
Hello Dejawiz,

Thanks for your effort. I will stick to the diamonds that my jeweler has sent me. What do you think of those? which one looks better ?
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I don't think I'd choose any of them based on grainy/hazy appearance in the magnified pi tires and videos.
Have you been able to see any of these three?
 
I didn't see them in person But I saw the pics and vidoes. I am not an expert but they don't look grainy/hazy to me . Should I ask my jeweler for real time vidoes and aset images ?
 
arshad syed said:
I didn't see them in person But I saw the pics and vidoes. I am not an expert but they don't look grainy/hazy to me . Should I ask my jeweler for real time vidoes and aset images ?
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Yes, videos in multiple lighting conditions and ASET (or Ideal-Scope) if available.
 
I agree with @DejaWiz but didn’t want to reply until someone with more experience had chimed in. The videos don’t show crisp sharp facets. Couldn’t tell if it was the camera or the stones.

That 2.08 is already gone. Lurkers sure are fast!
 
0515vision said:
I agree with @DejaWiz but didn’t want to reply until someone with more experience had chimed in. The videos don’t show crisp sharp facets. Couldn’t tell if it was the camera or the stones.

That 2.08 is already gone. Lurkers sure are fast!
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Someone got a heck of a nice HPHT 2ct for $1500!
 
My jeweler has sent the ideal/ASSET image for the second Diamond. I don't have the real time images yet.

1.5 Carat Round Lab Diamond ID Cut E Color VS1 Clarity with diamond report number IGI #LG592323595

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ASET is off alignment, but this one has potential to be a great choice.

Loupe360

loupe360.com loupe360.com
 
arshad syed said:
My jeweler has sent the ideal/ASSET image for the second Diamond. I don't have the real time images yet.

1.5 Carat Round Lab Diamond ID Cut E Color VS1 Clarity with diamond report number IGI #LG592323595

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It's decent, but there is pavilion twist and a fair number of striations.
 

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arshad syed said:
Thanks for your response. I got two more. Can you please assess those as well?


1.54 Carat Round Lab Grown Diamond F Color VVS2 Clarity Ideal Cut | Ritani

1.54 Carat Round Lab Diamond ID Cut F Color VVS2 Clarity with diamond report number IGI #LG595368734
www.ritani.com www.ritani.com

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I like the 1.60 a little more than the others. Can you view them side-by-side in person? If so, I'd view them in multiple lighting environments away from the jewelry store lights and compare their performance yourself.
 
Kim N said:
I like the 1.60 a little more than the others. Can you view them side-by-side in person? If so, I'd view them in multiple lighting environments away from the jewelry store lights and compare their performance yourself.
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Thanks for your response. I cant see them in person as its an online jeweler. But I do have an in person videos of 1.6 and 1.54

https://imgur.com/NxtpyI9

https://imgur.com/ZipP4tN
 
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If I were buying for myself, I would ask the jeweler to find some HPHT stones without blue nuance with proportions in the ranges listed above.
 
Thanks for your suggestion. I asked my jeweler about the HPHT and he told me that CVD is considered better than HPHT ? Is that true ?
 
arshad syed said:
Thanks for your suggestion. I asked my jeweler about the HPHT and he told me that CVD is considered better than HPHT ? Is that true ?
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Not necessarily. There is a flood of poor quality (in regards to the material quality the diamond is cut and polished from) LGDs right now. Most of the CVDs on the market appear to be grainy, hazy, or both. Lots of assessing should be performed.
 
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