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Please help me choose: 1.8ct DVVS1 vs 2 ct GVV2

1.8ct DVVS1 va 2.04 ct GVVS2

  • 1.8ct D

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • 2.04ct G

    Votes: 10 100.0%
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Jacqui1616

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Hello fellow diamond lovers, I am faced with a very sweet dilemma and am hoping to get some thoughts from you.

Both diamonds are ideal cut with HCA score of 0.7 and GIA XXX

Details specs as follows:

1.84 DVVS1
Measurements: 7.9 - 7.93. x 4.81mm
Depth: 60.8
Table: 57
Crown angle: 34.5
Pavilion angle: 40.6
Faint florecence

2.04 GVVS2
Measurements: 8.27 - 8.33 x 4.97 mm
Depth: 59.9
Table: 56
Crown angle: 33.5
Pavilion angle: 40.8
No florecence

I feel extremely lucky that my boyfriend is happy to purchase whichever one I pick and he wants to find a really good diamond for me. He prefers the G for it’s size and he couldn’t tell the difference between E and G (smaller stones) in a store under diffused lighting when we were doing research.

The D is top quality however the G hits the magic two mark.

We want our engagement ring to be a forever ring so I don’t plan to upgrade in the future. My ring size is 4.

We live in Australia and don’t have access to an extensive selection so can’t find any middle grounds. The price difference is just under $3000.

From you experience is it worth to sacrifice color for carat? Will the G look ‘off white’ in certain lighting? I would hate to pay so much money and get an off white diamond. But I also can’t resist the magic number 2.

Which one should I choose as a forever ring?
 
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What are the dimensions of both stones? Carat weight measures weight, not SIZE.
 
I know nothing about crown and pavilion angles. Hopefully, a more knowledgeable pricescoper will answer soon. But I DO own a H coloured diamond, and it is definitely not yellow, nor off-white.

Edited to add: nor off-white
 
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Jacqui1616 said:
Hello fellow diamond lovers, I am faced with a very sweet dilemma and am hoping to get some thoughts from you.

Both diamonds are ideal cut with HCA score of 0.7 and GIA XXX

Details specs as follows:

1.84 DVVS1
Measurement 7.9mm
Depth: 60.8
Table: 57
Crown angle: 34.5
Pavilion angle: 40.6
Faint florecence

2.04 GVVS2
Measurement 8.27
Depth: 59.9
Table: 56
Crown angle: 33.5
Pavilion angle: 40.8
No florecence

I feel extremely lucky that my boyfriend is happy to purchase whichever one I pick and he wants to find a really good diamond for me. He prefers the G for it’s size and he couldn’t tell the difference between E and G (smaller stones) in a store under diffused lighting when we were doing research.

The D is top quality however the G hits the magic two mark.

We want our engagement ring to be a forever ring so I don’t plan to upgrade in the future. My ring size is 4.

We live in Australia and don’t have access to an extensive selection so can’t find any middle grounds. The price difference is just under $3000.

From you experience is it worth to sacrifice color for carat? Will the G look ‘off white’ in certain lighting? I would hate to pay so much money and get an off white diamond. But I also can’t resist the magic number 2.

Which one should I choose as a forever ring?
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The spread across the top is the focus for size.
Color is a matter of preference, BUT G is far from dark or dingy. It falls in the near-colorless range, which faces up white, like a D. Doubtful you’ll even notice tint from the side.
Fluorescence is also a matter of preference, but not necessary in Colorless or near-Colorless Diamonds.
It would help to see how they perform. Do you have videos?
 
Matthews1127 said:
The spread across the top is the focus for size.
Color is a matter of preference, BUT G is far from dark or dingy. It falls in the near-colorless range, which faces up white, like a D. Doubtful you’ll even notice tint from the side.
Fluorescence is also a matter of preference, but not necessary in Colorless or near-Colorless Diamonds.
It would help to see how they perform. Do you have videos?
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Thanks for your quick reply. Currently video only available for the D

http://excellentdiamonds.com.hk/Account/DNAPage?packetno=EX11766
 
Among your criteria, factor in sell back trade up policy.
 
Matthews1127 said:
Very nice stone. The G seems to hit the mark...would be good to confirm it by seeing how it performs....
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Matthews1127 said:
Very nice stone. The G seems to hit the mark...would be good to confirm it by seeing how it performs....
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We might need to pay 10% deposit to see the video, boyfriend will need to organize that.
Say the performance is very similar, G is a safe bet you think?
 
Jacqui1616 said:
We might need to pay 10% deposit to see the video, boyfriend will need to organize that.
Say the performance is very similar, G is a safe bet you think?
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If your upgrade/trade-in policy meets your expectations, and the G makes your heart sing, when you see it perform, yes. The G seems to meet your criteria in every way. Make sure it moves your soul just as much!
 
Ok, this is a very large purchase and these stones cost a pretty penny so why rush or settle? I *personally* think the D VVS1 is overkill on both color and clarity but the G is shallow with a lower crown angle than we typically recommend so the stone will favor white light over colored light return. Nothing wrong with that, but it's a different flavor. G is still VERY white and I would much prefer the size especially if you're not planning on upgrading. I went from a 1.81 E to a 3.24 G with absolutely no regrets.

How much are these stones? I have a hunch that you would be able to purchase a US stone including taxes, etc., for what these stones are priced at....let us show you some alternatives!

Oh and I think it's ridiculous that you need to pay a deposit to see a video!
 
ac117 said:
Ok, this is a very large purchase and these stones cost a pretty penny so why rush or settle? I *personally* think the D VVS1 is overkill on both color and clarity but the G is shallow with a lower crown angle than we typically recommend so the stone will favor white light over colored light return. Nothing wrong with that, but it's a different flavor. G is still VERY white and I would much prefer the size especially if you're not planning on upgrading. I went from a 1.81 E to a 3.24 G with absolutely no regrets.

How much are these stones? I have a hunch that you would be able to purchase a US stone including taxes, etc., for what these stones are priced at....let us show you some alternatives!

Oh and I think it's ridiculous that you need to pay a deposit to see a video!
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D $40524 Aud
G $37737 Aud
Setting excluded, I plan to do a platinum Tiffany setting
 
ac117 said:
Ok, this is a very large purchase and these stones cost a pretty penny so why rush or settle? I *personally* think the D VVS1 is overkill on both color and clarity but the G is shallow with a lower crown angle than we typically recommend so the stone will favor white light over colored light return. Nothing wrong with that, but it's a different flavor. G is still VERY white and I would much prefer the size especially if you're not planning on upgrading. I went from a 1.81 E to a 3.24 G with absolutely no regrets.

How much are these stones? I have a hunch that you would be able to purchase a US stone including taxes, etc., for what these stones are priced at....let us show you some alternatives!

Oh and I think it's ridiculous that you need to pay a deposit to see a video!
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Also can you please explain what it means the stone will favor white light over colored light return?

Thanks for your help!
 
Jacqui1616 said:
D $40524 Aud
G $37737 Aud
Setting excluded, I plan to do a platinum Tiffany setting
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:eek-2: That's like 30-32k usd right?! Seems overpriced but I didn't do in depth comps

Look at this super ideal cut stone, top of the line cut, G color and VS1 that will most certainly be eye clean: https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3905125.htm

Plus WF could set it in the Vatche U113 that is extremely similar to the Tiffany setting: https://www.whiteflash.com/engageme...-solitaire-engagement-ring-by-vatche-1779.htm

Another beauty but might be over budget once taxes are factored in: https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3936451.htm

A very nice option from their premium select line-these aren't cut in house like the ACA or expert selection...they are top of the line GIA cuts with the images to back them. https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3784278.htm
 
Jacqui1616 said:
D $40524 Aud
G $37737 Aud
Setting excluded, I plan to do a platinum Tiffany setting
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Hi from a fellow Australia.
Don’t forget about GST upon importation. It’s 10% plus customs fees. I’m not sure if loose gems also have a tariff (best to check) which might be another 5% on top. I know you can get the tariff waived on US manufactured jewellery if the seller completes the correct documentation prior to export because of the US / Australia free trade agreement but I’m not sure on loose gems.
I’d go with the G, no one can pick the difference a D and G without a reference point ie the G alongside a D but you can notice the size difference.
Cheers
 
Agree with the G. I am color sensitive and G is my sweet spot - you don't see color from the side and it faces up nice and white, no hint of yellow.

As for white light return, to put it simply - when we look at a diamond in different lighting conditions it sparkles in rainbow colors (what we call fire) as well as white light return (brilliance).

A stone that favors white light return means it probably is more brilliant (i.e. has more flashes of white light). There's still fire, but maybe a little less than a diamond that's cut differently or cut for more fire (colored light return). This is not a good or bad thing - it's just a personal preference, like a chewy chocolate chip cookie versus a crunchy chocolate chip cookie.

You can take a look at some youtube videos by GoodOldGold where they show you the diamond in different lighting conditions to see what I mean about colored light return white light return.
 
In a recent thread about the HCA, there is discussion about diamonds with HCA scores <1.0 being better for pendants and earrings. I think this is because they typically are observed from a distance so the viewer's head doesn't block the light and make the diamond look dark. Something to consider if both of those diamonds are 0.7.
 
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