Please Help! 2carat Emerald cut review ASET not enough red?

[kerrisdale]

I need some feedback...should I be concerned at the lack of red in this ASET??

Emerald Cut
2.02
Color I
VS1
Depth 64.2
Table 58
Girdle Thick
Polish Excellent
Symmetry Very Good
L/W/D (mm): 8.47*6.15*3.95
L/W Ratio: 1.38

I love how it looks, my only concern is whether this ASET is 'good' or not. Help! I need to decide within 24 hours whether I'll be going with it or releasing my hold.

Thanks so much for your feedback experts!

 

[JulieN]

Re: Please Help! 2carat Emerald cut review ASET not enough

Doesn't look good in the photo/vid. ASET backs that up.

 

[kerrisdale]

Re: Please Help! 2carat Emerald cut review ASET not enough

So the fact that there is little red is the concern?

I also have this option

1.71 carat
E
VS2
Polish Very Good
Symm Good
7.95 x 6.25

 

[JulieN]

Re: Please Help! 2carat Emerald cut review ASET not enough

The concern is that IMO it does not look very bright, it looks dull in the middle.

 

[kerrisdale]

Re: Please Help! 2carat Emerald cut review ASET not enough

Option 3
2.29 J VVS1 EX EX GIA N 64.7% 67% 8.19x6.78x4.39

I initally passed on this one as I felt like the steps weren't even {ie some looked wider than others and I was worried about the black sections} Wondering if its still the best choice?

I'm attracted to the first diamond and its narrow even facets/steps but certainly don't want a dull stone. Thoughts?

 

[JulieN]

Re: Please Help! 2carat Emerald cut review ASET not enough

I'd probably give the other two a shot. Can you have them shipped out to see, they are really different colors, sizes, lxw.

 

[Karl_K]

Re: Please Help! 2carat Emerald cut review ASET not enough

So the fact that there is little red is the concern?

I also have this option

1.71 carat
E
VS2
Polish Very Good
Symm Good
7.95 x 6.25

not enough data to make a decision but this one looks the most promising of the first 2.
Whats the table size, crown height, and depth?
Can you get a video?

 

[Karl_K]

Re: Please Help! 2carat Emerald cut review ASET not enough

Option 3
2.29 J VVS1 EX EX GIA N 64.7% 67% 8.19x6.78x4.39

I initally passed on this one as I felt like the steps weren't even {ie some looked wider than others and I was worried about the black sections} Wondering if its still the best choice?

I'm attracted to the first diamond and its narrow even facets/steps but certainly don't want a dull stone. Thoughts?

Same story, looks promising.
What is missing is how it responds under tilt.
It looks slightly tilted in the pic I think its more symmetrical than the pic indicates.

 

[kerrisdale]

Re: Please Help! 2carat Emerald cut review ASET not enough

The depth is 66.7, table is 61.

 

[Karl_K]

Re: Please Help! 2carat Emerald cut review ASET not enough

The depth is 66.7, table is 61.

good numbers.

 

[kerrisdale]

Re: Please Help! 2carat Emerald cut review ASET not enough

Karl a question... I've noticed that some emeralds can have 3 steps on the bottom, while others have 4. How does this affect how they perform? From a glance it appears that the steps seem more even and there are less wide black areas when there are more steps, but does this make the diamond appear more lively or reflect light better? The first diamond posted has 4, the others have 3

 

[Karl_K]

Re: Please Help! 2carat Emerald cut review ASET not enough

Karl a question... I've noticed that some emeralds can have 3 steps on the bottom, while others have 4. How does this affect how they perform? From a glance it appears that the steps seem more even and there are less wide black areas when there are more steps, but does this make the diamond appear more lively or reflect light better? The first diamond posted has 4, the others have 3

The number of facets is less important than how they work together.
Once type can look like another depending on the specifics.
All the facets working well together is the most important thing.

 

[kerrisdale]

Re: Please Help! 2carat Emerald cut review ASET not enough

Thank you! Appreciate all this info. Is this stone similar to the first JA one (ie dead center)? Also a pass?

http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/emerald-cut/1.94-carat-h-color-vs2-clarity-sku-257145

 

[kerrisdale]

Re: Please Help! 2carat Emerald cut review ASET not enough

Here is a pic of the third stone tilted

 

[Karl_K]

Re: Please Help! 2carat Emerald cut review ASET not enough

Here is a pic of the third stone tilted

looks like id expect it to look based on the other pics.

The information we are missing on all of these is how they look when they are moving on the finger.
You cant get that from static pics nor from a series of pictures with it sitting on its pavilion facets(JA)

 

[kenny]

Re: Please Help! 2carat Emerald cut review ASET not enough

Karl a question... I've noticed that some emeralds can have 3 steps on the bottom, while others have 4. How does this affect how they perform? From a glance it appears that the steps seem more even and there are less wide black areas when there are more steps, but does this make the diamond appear more lively or reflect light better? The first diamond posted has 4, the others have 3

Of course I totally agree with what Karl said that the angles of all the facets working together is more important than how many there are but, there is one difference between 3 and 4 row ECs that I'll mention.

Each pavilion side facet on the 3-row EC will be wider, so they will produce larger flashes of fire.
Each pavilion side facet of a 4-row EC will be more narrow, but since there are more of them there will be more flashes of light.
If both are equally-well-cut it's a wash in terms of the total amount of fire.

It's like a Solasfera round, with ten sections vs. a traditional well-cut round with eight sections.
Certain posters here call the Solasfera "busy".
I guess they'd call a 4-row Emerald cut busy too.
Logically they'd have to criticize the Royal Asscher as terribly busy since it has 5 rows of pavilion facets as in the top right drawing.



Anyway, neither a 4 or 3 row EC is better, just different.

 

[kerrisdale]

Re: Please Help! 2carat Emerald cut review ASET not enough

Thanks Kenny... Do you think the first diamond is being critiqued because it truly isn't a well cut stone or because it's not the style if emerald that people typically like ? Just want to make sure I'm passing on that stone because it's not good, rather than a style preference

 

[kenny]

Re: Please Help! 2carat Emerald cut review ASET not enough

I confess I'm not very skilled at selecting emerald cuts based on pics.
Karl is, and I know Chrono is since I saw her EC in person and the light performance was the best of any EC I'd ever seen.

The reason I'd pass on the first one is the lack of contrast in the center region.
I want to see alternating rows of dark and light all the way to the center in the first pic and alternating colors in an ASET pic.
The first diamond has neither.

 

[Karl_K]

Re: Please Help! 2carat Emerald cut review ASET not enough

Karl a question... I've noticed that some emeralds can have 3 steps on the bottom, while others have 4. How does this affect how they perform? From a glance it appears that the steps seem more even and there are less wide black areas when there are more steps, but does this make the diamond appear more lively or reflect light better? The first diamond posted has 4, the others have 3

Of course I totally agree with what Karl said that the angles of all the facets working together is more important than how many there are but, there is one difference between 3 and 4 row ECs that I'll mention.

Each pavilion side facet on the 3-row EC will be wider, so they will produce larger flashes of fire.
Each pavilion side facet of a 4-row EC will be more narrow, but since there are more of them there will be more flashes of light.
If both are equally-well-cut it's a wash in terms of the total amount of fire.

It's like a Solasfera round, with ten sections vs. a traditional well-cut round with eight sections.
Certain posters here call the Solasfera "busy".
I guess they'd call a 4-row Emerald cut busy too.
Logically they'd have to criticize the Royal Asscher as terribly busy since it has 5 rows of pavilion facets as in the top right drawing.



Anyway, neither a 4 or 3 row EC is better, just different.

Kenny,
While you would think it would work that way it doesn't always in step cut stones unlike rounds.
I'm am not up to going into great detail but they can mimic each other depending on specific facet configuration, crown height and facet placement.
For example your diamond a 3c/3p design has far more med flashes(right sized in my marketing speak) than an RA.

 

[Karl_K]

Re: Please Help! 2carat Emerald cut review ASET not enough

Thanks Kenny... Do you think the first diamond is being critiqued because it truly isn't a well cut stone or because it's not the style if emerald that people typically like ? Just want to make sure I'm passing on that stone because it's not good, rather than a style preference

Some of my favorite SE/EC diamonds have been 4 pavilion step designs.