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  1. tyer
    Rough_Rock

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    by tyer » Mar 14, 2019
    Hey,

    I currently have 2 options that I am debating on...which one would you choose? Option 2 is ~$1,600 more expensive

    Option1:

    Carat 1.2
    Clarity SI1
    Cut Excellent
    Colour G
    Table % 58.5
    Depth % 61.8
    Measurement 6.78-6.83x4.21
    Crown 33.4
    Pavillion 41.5

    Option 2:
    Carat 1.2
    Clarity Vs2
    Cut Excellent
    Colour H
    Table % 59.3
    Depth % 60.9
    Measurement 6.90 - 6.95 X 4.11
    HCA 1.3
    Crown ?
    Pavillion ?
     
  2. SimoneDi
    Ideal_Rock

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    by SimoneDi » Mar 14, 2019
    Not enough information for either stone to make a recommendation. Please post the full gia reports.
     
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  3. diamondseeker2006
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    by diamondseeker2006 » Mar 14, 2019
    I personally would choose neither one. You can do better.

    These are measurements to help you stay in ideal cut territory with a GIA excellent cut stone.

    table: 54-58

    depth: 60-62.3

    crown angle: 34-35.0 (up to 35.5 crown angle can sometimes work with a 40.6 pav angle)

    pavilion angle: 40.6-40.9 (sometimes 41.0 if the crown angle is close to 34)
     
  4. tyer
    Rough_Rock

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    by tyer » Mar 14, 2019

    I have attached the reports below :)
     
  5. tyer
    Rough_Rock

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    by tyer » Mar 14, 2019

    Thanks, but the shop told me that the specs that I have is already going to be really good. Should I really be aiming for something this ideal?
     
  6. ringo865
    Ideal_Rock

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    by ringo865 » Mar 14, 2019
    We aren’t trying to sell you anything but want to help you find a well cut stone.

    The shop is trying to sell you a particular choice of only two (not well cut) stones.

    Can we help you, or will the shop be helping you?

    The people on Pricescope and the guy at the shop are at cross purposes.
     
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  7. SimoneDi
    Ideal_Rock

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    by SimoneDi » Mar 14, 2019
    Thanks for sharing.

    None of these options would be my pick. The first stone is an IGI which is not always a consisten and reliable lab, so you really can’t be sure what you are getting in terms of color and clarity. I would avoid that stone.

    The second stone is a GIA, but it doesn’t have option proportions, although the angles work. It is a 60/60 stone and it has a shallower crown angle. Fire will be compromised, but it will appear as a bright stone.

    Are you open to shopping online? What is your budget? We can show you other options to consider.
     
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  8. lovedogs
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    by lovedogs » Mar 14, 2019
    Agree that i wouldn't choose eirther and think you can do better.
     
  9. tyer
    Rough_Rock

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    by tyer » Mar 15, 2019
    that is true.... I don't know enough about diamonds.

    I just see that the specs are close enough. it is great to have a community that can provide a second opinion
     
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  10. tyer
    Rough_Rock

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    by tyer » Mar 15, 2019
    I am open to shopping online. My budget is about $9-11k CDN
     
  11. tyer
    Rough_Rock

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    by tyer » Mar 15, 2019
    IF you have to... which will you choose?
     
  12. ringo865
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    by ringo865 » Mar 15, 2019
    I* would not choose either and I* would walk from this seller.

    Let folks help you. We have your budget. Does that include setting, or diamond only? What kind of settting are you looking for? Do you know her ring size?

    What are your desired specs? Color, clarity, size?
     
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  13. ccuheartnurse
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    by ccuheartnurse » Mar 15, 2019
    What are you looking for specifically? Diamond colour? Is she colour sensitive? Diamond size you would like? Does the budget include a ring? If so what kind of ring? If you want a ring, what style does your gf want? Finger size? Metal? Is a future upgrade an important factor for you?

    ** $9 Canadian (approx. $6700 US) - $11000 (approx. $8200 US ).

    This info will help narrow down some choices. Neither of those 2 diamonds are a good choice.
     
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  14. diamondseeker2006
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    by diamondseeker2006 » Mar 15, 2019
    Actually, the specs are not close enough. We are saying that the specs need to be within the measurements I posted above. This jeweler is not doing you any favors. They apparently have two stones for you to choose from, and neither is in the ideal cut range. You'll likely overpay, as well. It is good that you found Pricescope before buying because we can help you find the best stones for your budget. Hopefully she'll wear the ring the rest of her life. I think it's worth exploring further to find a really nice diamond.
     
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  15. tyer
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    by tyer » Mar 15, 2019
    wow...this community is awesome.

    I am looking for
    Carat: 1.1- 1.2
    Colour: G-I
    Cut: Excellent- GIAxxx
    Prefers no colour
    Platinum ring (size 4??), 4 prong, pave ring setting
    Budget does not include the ring

    Thanks!!
     
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  16. tyer
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    by tyer » Mar 15, 2019
    yea, I am really glad that I found pricescope. I was about to pull the trigger on it too.
     
  17. diamondseeker2006
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    by diamondseeker2006 » Mar 15, 2019
    Okay, here are a few between $6700-8200 US. All top quality AGS Ideal Cut. Whiteflash also has a large selection of nice quality settings. I bought my diamond earrings from them and have been to their physical showroom. They can pull diamonds you like and take pictures comparing them, too.

    https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-4089370.htm

    https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-4095771.htm

    https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-4022601.htm
     
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  18. ccuheartnurse
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    by ccuheartnurse » Mar 15, 2019
    Hi Tyer,

    I found a few on Blue Nile but really wasn't wow'd by a lot of them. I haven't checked James Allen cause their search page is just frustrating me. LOL I'm sure others will chime in.

    Put a hold on this stone ** ASAP ** . Lurkers will grab the stone out from under you. You will have the weekend to think about it as they are closed till Monday. Get on Live chat & have someone hold it. They will have the cert up by Monday as the stone is new. Their notes say the stone is eye clean from 6 inches. It's a really nice lively SI-1. It misses the A Cut Above designation because the hearts a bit off. This will not translate to live viewing issues. The stone is a stunner plus a good value, especially for Whiteflash. Register an account & get more of a discount. I think $50? I can't remember.

    https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-4095774.htm
     
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  19. ccuheartnurse
    Brilliant_Rock

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    by ccuheartnurse » Mar 15, 2019
    LOL DS, I'm surprised I didn't bump into you on the search. Hahaha
    All nice stones, like that H.

    Again, any stones you like, get on live chat & talk to discuss them.
     
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  20. tyer
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    by tyer » Mar 19, 2019 at 9:47 AM

    Since this is an "I" colour, do you think it will look yellow? Or you can't tell with the naked eye the difference between I and H

    Thanks
     
  21. tyer
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    by tyer » Mar 19, 2019 at 1:23 PM
    This one also has a lot of twinning
     
  22. lovedogs
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    by lovedogs » Mar 19, 2019 at 1:31 PM
    In a white flash ES it shouldnt cause issues, but you should ask them.
     

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