Orange engagement ring

[fishfrenzy]

Now there is this sapphire that was recommended to me from MC by you guys - link 1
A bit of a "roval" and as stated, skewered towards yellow.

But there's also this sapphire from gem select that, as far as I can tell, is nearly identical in size, carat, clarity - link 2

The main difference is treatment. Does BE heating really diminish the price by that much? I personally find the colors to be more profound and appealing in the BE one.
Yes, that's why we don't recommend it for an e-ring stone but if it is mind clean for both of you and you are well aware of its value, then BE diffused could be a good choice for a buyer.

Thank you once again for your help. I'll keep an open mind about BE treated gems. I have to do one last thing before I'm ready to pick a gem which may affect what I'm looking for.

 

[Kellyashley16]

The montana sapphire was really unique and a good find but get that it would set you over budget. I'm with chroman on this one- the MC round you should be able to find a stock setting for that likely will keep the whole thing under 1k, and it looks like a lovely stone. They have a good return policy should you order it and it not be to your liking.
The gemselect stone you posted is enormous compared to most of the others mentioned here- I worry it would be too large for a girl that said she wanted something more reserved.

 

[fishfrenzy]

The montana sapphire was really unique and a good find but get that it would set you over budget. I'm with chroman on this one- the MC round you should be able to find a stock setting for that likely will keep the whole thing under 1k, and it looks like a lovely stone. They have a good return policy should you order it and it not be to your liking.
The gemselect stone you posted is enormous compared to most of the others mentioned here- I worry it would be too large for a girl that said she wanted something more reserved.

That is the impression I'm getting about the gemselect stone as well, after further review. There are still many options on there that aren't as large.

I'll wait until 10/23 to check out MC's sitewide sale and see what we get at.

 

[vintagelover229]

not big at all, but maybe what your looking for?

https://loupetroop.com/listings/rings-colored-stone-center/bezel-set-orange-sapphire-ring-size-4-dot-5


also i think the 1.48 orange sapphire everyone loves is amazing. I'm as thrifty as they come, but considering how many years she will be wearing this ring it will be pennies a day, so spending a bit more than she'd like to get something incredible isn't really that bad in the long run

You could always get a preloved setting too to offset the cost of the gem.

https://loupetroop.com/listings/settings/18kt-yellow-gold-and-platinum-solitaire-ring-setting-size-5

ETA: I know nothing about gemstones or these rings I'm linking you too but I decided to hunt my usual places and see what I could find.

https://www.rubylane.com/item/1251082-sayo-S18/Vintage-1-85ct-Orange-Sapphire-Diamond?search=1

https://www.rubylane.com/item/1251082-sa-s27/Vintage-Platinum-Flawless-Orange-Sapphire-Diamond?search=1

I like this one a lot
https://www.rubylane.com/item/1251082-sapog-N00/Vintage-1-6ct-Orange-Sapphire-European?search=1

https://www.rubylane.com/item/1442445-EMS-43/1-77ct-Natural-Orange-Round-Sapphire?search=1

 

[lovedogs]

is this too much for her in terms of "bling"? My only concern about you buying the setting and stone separately is making sure that a stock setting fits the stone you want, and then having a local jeweler set it. Definitely not an impossible task by any means, but it does make things easier if possible to get everything at once.

https://www.etsy.com/listing/239304891/14k-rose-gold-oval-scalloped-ring-with?ga_search_query=orange&ref=shop_items_search_4

EDIT: another loose stone option that shouldn't look too big on the hand, and is pretty close to standard measurements so would likely fit in a stock setting.

http://jefferydavies.com/gemstones/sapphire/mj1978-sapphire-1-30ct/

 

[chroman]

Lovedogs - ouu, I like both that spinel and JD sapphire!

How likely are orange stones to shift to less flattering colors (like, brown) with less-than-ideal lighting?

 

[fishfrenzy]

is this too much for her in terms of "bling"? My only concern about you buying the setting and stone separately is making sure that a stock setting fits the stone you want, and then having a local jeweler set it. Definitely not an impossible task by any means, but it does make things easier if possible to get everything at once.

https://www.etsy.com/listing/239304891/14k-rose-gold-oval-scalloped-ring-with?ga_search_query=orange&ref=shop_items_search_4

EDIT: another loose stone option that shouldn't look too big on the hand, and is pretty close to standard measurements so would likely fit in a stock setting.

http://jefferydavies.com/gemstones/sapphire/mj1978-sapphire-1-30ct/

I'm not sure if I have a set amount of "bling" that would be too much. I'm going by a "when I see it, I'll know" type of search. XD

 

[fishfrenzy]

Okay, newest update. I have a family heirloom diamond that I would like to incorporate into the ring. Here is what I know about it:

- 4.2 mm x 2.7 mm (round)
- rose cut
- .33~.34 carats

I was thinking about using the diamond as a center for a three-gem setting, and a smaller pair of orange sapphires on either side. Thoughts and/or suggestions?

At this size orange diamonds can also be considered.

I thought about putting the current diamond in the center since it's probably easier to find a new pair of gems than to try and find a matching diamond.

Also, if this is now in the wrong forum, please let me know.

 

[minousbijoux]

Okay, newest update. I have a family heirloom diamond that I would like to incorporate into the ring. Here is what I know about it:

- 4.2 mm x 2.7 mm (round)
- rose cut
- .33~.34 carats

I was thinking about using the diamond as a center for a three-gem setting, and a smaller pair of orange sapphires on either side. Thoughts and/or suggestions?

At this size orange diamonds can also be considered.

I thought about putting the current diamond in the center since it's probably easier to find a new pair of gems than to try and find a matching diamond.

Also, if this is now in the wrong forum, please let me know.

You might want to add some size parameters for side stones you'd be considering and then take a look at orange diamond pricing just to make sure its within your budget as orange diamonds can be pretty pricey.

 

[minousbijoux]

Okay, newest update. I have a family heirloom diamond that I would like to incorporate into the ring. Here is what I know about it:

- 4.2 mm x 2.7 mm (round)
- rose cut
- .33~.34 carats

I was thinking about using the diamond as a center for a three-gem setting, and a smaller pair of orange sapphires on either side. Thoughts and/or suggestions?

At this size orange diamonds can also be considered.

I thought about putting the current diamond in the center since it's probably easier to find a new pair of gems than to try and find a matching diamond.

Also, if this is now in the wrong forum, please let me know.

 

[fishfrenzy]

Okay, newest update. I have a family heirloom diamond that I would like to incorporate into the ring. Here is what I know about it:

- 4.2 mm x 2.7 mm (round)
- rose cut
- .33~.34 carats

I was thinking about using the diamond as a center for a three-gem setting, and a smaller pair of orange sapphires on either side. Thoughts and/or suggestions?

At this size orange diamonds can also be considered.

I thought about putting the current diamond in the center since it's probably easier to find a new pair of gems than to try and find a matching diamond.

Also, if this is now in the wrong forum, please let me know.

You might want to add some size parameters for side stones you'd be considering and then take a look at orange diamond pricing just to make sure its within your budget as orange diamonds can be pretty pricey.

I'm afraid I didn't have anything particular in mind. After a little searching I'm also finding that the sapphires are a lot more brilliant and colorful than the diamonds, so I may just stick with a pair of sapphires for the three-gem setting. The trouble now is finding a pair.

 

[vintagelover229]

What about something like this and using the extra stones in a band?
http://www.gemselect.com/sapphire/sapphire-330780.php

Or maybe these? Though they may be close in size to the diamond.
http://www.gemselect.com/sapphire/sapphire-425426.php

 

[fishfrenzy]

What about something like this and using the extra stones in a band?
http://www.gemselect.com/sapphire/sapphire-330780.php

Or maybe these? Though they may be close in size to the diamond.
http://www.gemselect.com/sapphire/sapphire-425426.php

That second pair is quite nice. A little smaller and it would be perfect (I like the idea of the diamond popping out amongst whatever I place with it).

 

[vintagelover229]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/japan-quality-Orange-Sapphire-pair-0-29CT-Loose-Gemstone-/112163939420?hash=item1a1d7de45c:g:rOkAAOSwHnFVkzKl


not sure on the quality but for the price cant hurt to try.

 

[chroman]

It would probably be very hard to find a matched pair, but do you like this color at all?

http://www.pearlmansjewelers.com/gemstones/?sku=6025

Pads are $$$, but might be slightly more affordable when <4mm.. They're also often less saturated, making it all the more of a challenge..

 

[fishfrenzy]

It would probably be very hard to find a matched pair, but do you like this color at all?

http://www.pearlmansjewelers.com/gemstones/?sku=6025

Pads are $$$, but might be slightly more affordable when <4mm.. They're also often less saturated, making it all the more of a challenge..

Are padparadscha sapphires rarer than regular sapphires or something? It's fairly small, heated, and still going for nearly $1k a carat.

 

[Sungura]

I just remembered about this sapphire and it's on sale right now

7x5 unheated ceylon sapphire cushion
https://www.etsy.com/listing/222976621/sale-unheated-cushion-ceylon-sapphire?ref=shop_home_active_24



I also want to add that orange can be a difficult color to photograph. I suggest you start looking at them in person ie order and return if you don't like the color. Of course check the return policy first - but many give 10-14 days

 

[fishfrenzy]

Any thoughts on irradiated diamonds in order to get the orange color? According to Lotus Colors the diamonds can be treated to get these fanciful and vibrant colors. Unfortunately I've not been able to find any information about Lotus Colors or their work on this forum.

 

[Niel]

Any thoughts on irradiated diamonds in order to get the orange color? According to Lotus Colors the diamonds can be treated to get these fanciful and vibrant colors. Unfortunately I've not been able to find any information about Lotus Colors or their work on this forum.

I like the idea of a very small real orange diamond. Some people have qualms about irradiated diamonds. If she could, I wouldn't chance it. I wonder how she would feel about like a moi et toi ring with one orange one white diamond

 

[chroman]

Or a orange halo if someone could source some nice melee?

 

[Niel]

i mean this is beautiful

https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/fancy-color/orange/round-cut/0.30-carat-si1-clarity-sku-543008

 

[fishfrenzy]

i mean this is beautiful

https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/fancy-color/orange/round-cut/0.30-carat-si1-clarity-sku-543008

That is undeniably beautiful. A little pricey for me though. D:

 

[Niel]

i mean this is beautiful

https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/fancy-color/orange/round-cut/0.30-carat-si1-clarity-sku-543008

That is undeniably beautiful. A little pricey for me though. D:

Your budget isn't 2k?

 

[Niel]

because if it was you could do a two stone, like this (theres a way to get 1000 off if you spend 1k so that would be under 2k ) engrave something like "my sun and moon" or something (im being corny)

https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/fancy-color/orange/round-cut/0.30-carat-si1-clarity-sku-543008
https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut/0.30-carat-k-color-si1-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-2127879
https://www.jamesallen.com/fine-jewelry/two-stone-rings/14k-white-gold-two-stone-cross-over-diamond-ring-item-56214

or, if shed like a more traditional ring, you could do that stone with one of these
https://www.jamesallen.com/engagement-rings/solitaire/14k-white-gold-wire-by-pass-diamond-engagement-ring-item-41054
or
https://www.jamesallen.com/engagement-rings/tension/14k-white-gold-bezel-solitaire-engagement-ring-round-center-item-3251

 

[fishfrenzy]

i mean this is beautiful

https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/fancy-color/orange/round-cut/0.30-carat-si1-clarity-sku-543008

That is undeniably beautiful. A little pricey for me though. D:

Your budget isn't 2k?

It is, but I also have to consider the setting. I do like the other options you presented me with. Unfortunately I can't see an option to include my own diamond.

 

[Niel]

i mean this is beautiful

https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/fancy-color/orange/round-cut/0.30-carat-si1-clarity-sku-543008

That is undeniably beautiful. A little pricey for me though. D:

Your budget isn't 2k?

It is, but I also have to consider the setting. I do like the other options you presented me with. Unfortunately I can't see an option to include my own diamond.

All the options I presented you with are from the same vendor. They would put all of these things together for you. There's also a halo you could afford in your budget too. Go to the diamond, select it, say add to ring, and you select a setting you like. They ship it to you already made.


Here's a setting, though it says they start doing it at 50 points, they have examples where they've done it for a 32 point diamond
https://www.jamesallen.com/engagement-rings/halo/14k-white-gold-trellis-halo-diamond-engagement-ring-item-53050

Or this one

https://www.jamesallen.com/mobile/engagement-rings/halo/14k-white-gold-pave-halo-engagement-ring-item-18301

Usually i wouldn't necessarily suggest a small diamond but yo I talk like she doesn't care that much about Jewelry, I wonder if the rarity of a orange diamond would make it special, vs other people who think diamonds are special becuase of their size. Just an idea.

 

[fishfrenzy]

i mean this is beautiful

https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/fancy-color/orange/round-cut/0.30-carat-si1-clarity-sku-543008

That is undeniably beautiful. A little pricey for me though. D:

Your budget isn't 2k?

It is, but I also have to consider the setting. I do like the other options you presented me with. Unfortunately I can't see an option to include my own diamond.

All the options I presented you with are from the same vendor. They would put all of these things together for you. There's also a halo you could afford in your budget too. Go to the diamond, select it, say add to ring, and you select a setting you like. They ship it to you already made.


Here's a setting, though it says they start doing it at 50 points, they have examples where they've done it for a 32 point diamond
https://www.jamesallen.com/engagement-rings/halo/14k-white-gold-trellis-halo-diamond-engagement-ring-item-53050

Or this one

https://www.jamesallen.com/mobile/engagement-rings/halo/14k-white-gold-pave-halo-engagement-ring-item-18301

Usually i wouldn't necessarily suggest a small diamond but yo I talk like she doesn't care that much about Jewelry, I wonder if the rarity of a orange diamond would make it special, vs other people who think diamonds are special becuase of their size. Just an idea.

She would be equally ecstatic whether it's a diamond ring or Ring Pop. That's her personality.

 

[fishfrenzy]

I found this orange Montana sapphire - https://www.etsy.com/listing/102589155/gorgeous-montana-sapphire-vibrant-orange?ref=shop_home_active_37

Compared to some other orange, treated sapphires I've seen this one is a bit more expensive. However, I love the color and it's just the right size to be paired with my diamond in a two-stone setting.

Does anyone have any insight to the price, and whether it's fair?

 

[E B]

I found this orange Montana sapphire - https://www.etsy.com/listing/102589155/gorgeous-montana-sapphire-vibrant-orange?ref=shop_home_active_37

Compared to some other orange, treated sapphires I've seen this one is a bit more expensive. However, I love the color and it's just the right size to be paired with my diamond in a two-stone setting.

Does anyone have any insight to the price, and whether it's fair?

It seems like it may be kind of dark? Not an expert, though, I'll leave that to them.

I didn't see this option mentioned yet (apologies if I missed it!), and thought I'd mention it. Since you said she doesn't want a bunch of extra stones, what about tiny orange diamonds/sapphires set into the setting as "surprise diamonds/sapphires" like this:

 

[fishfrenzy]

I found this orange Montana sapphire - https://www.etsy.com/listing/102589155/gorgeous-montana-sapphire-vibrant-orange?ref=shop_home_active_37

Compared to some other orange, treated sapphires I've seen this one is a bit more expensive. However, I love the color and it's just the right size to be paired with my diamond in a two-stone setting.

Does anyone have any insight to the price, and whether it's fair?

It seems like it may be kind of dark? Not an expert, though, I'll leave that to them.

I didn't see this option mentioned yet (apologies if I missed it!), and thought I'd mention it. Since you said she doesn't want a bunch of extra stones, what about tiny orange diamonds/sapphires set into the setting as "surprise diamonds/sapphires" like this:

I haven't seen a design like this before. Is it just called a surprise setting?