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Opinion Poll: J or K color and carat dilemma

Opinion Poll: J or K color dilemma- pick my rock

  • J 1.023ct (VVS2) with Strong Flor

    Votes: 17 36.2%

  • K 1.13ct (VS2) with Strong Flor.

    Votes: 5 10.6%

  • K 1.238ct (VS2) with Negligible Flor.

    Votes: 25 53.2%
  • Total voters
    47
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LuckyLisa1005

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I am slowly figuring this out. These are some really good options and the ASET /ideal scope images have helped tremendously narrow this search down. But I still need help reading them...and understanding light failure points.

The more I read the more I have a hard time singling it out. Strong Flor. helps J and K colored diamonds.
So its a positive? Now I just have to flip coins I guess. Or ask for your (very appreciated) opinions! :DFor those with the expertise, carat over color? Considering ideal parameters with excellent performance, should I go with the largest stone for my budget? Or the better color for my budget?

Poll: What would you go for!?... the J 1.023ct (VVS2) with Strong Flor. or the James Allen ($5.3k) - K 1.13ct (VS2) with Strong Flor. ($4.7K) ; or, K 1.238!ct (VS2) with Neg. Flor ($5.7k)
All hearts and arrows with beautiful dimensions. The J-VVS2 having slightly better symmetry, from what I can decipher on the images.

This is going in a yellow gold with white gold prog setting. If that helps. I just need a poll of what you pros would ultimately pick. I really don't know if color over carat (& clarity) will matter in the 1ct-1.3ct gamut. :confused:

J 1.023ct (VVS2)https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3955180.htm
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K 1.13ct (VS2) https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...color-vs2-clarity-true-hearts-cut-sku-4314919
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K 1.238!ct (VS2) https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3925320.htm

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Sorry PS, this forum has created a monster. I as always appreciate all your guidance and advice.

ThankYou!! ​
 
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K 1.238!ct (VS2)

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Your question of size over color or color over size is a completely personal one, so only you can really decide that. Maybe you've posted this in another thread but what is *your* color tolerance?? For the two WF stones, I would ask them to put them both face down next to each other and see which one has more tint. As you know....a certain color stone can be a low or a high within the color. So a low K will be leaning towards an L vs a high K will be closer to a J. Have you seen a J and K stone? I am partial to the J stone by the image, but it is such a personal choice.

By the way the link you have with the J stone is for a different diamond.
 
Ask whiteflash for a picture of all 3 stones together. You will be able to see the size difference and face up color difference and hopefully make
your decision easier.
 
As others have said, only you can make that choice. A lot of us here are size lovers & stretch the band as much as possible to balance what our head & hearts are telling us. I myself, go for the largest stone, & know that WF has one of the most consumer friendly trade up policies available. You could always trade up in color when a J comes up. And if the stone is going into yellow gold, I think that will mask the tint pretty well. Just look for a basket that will cover the pavilion as opposed to leaving it wide open. But if I was in a position that one day I might trade it in for a better color, I would not be going with JA. You will have to spend double your original amount in order to do so.

I don't know what type of setting you are going for & I don't mean to suggest this specific one, although it's pretty but I wanted to emphasize the type of basket I was referring to.

https://www.stuller.com/products/bu...dationSource=CategoryBrowse#/mounting-options

Not

https://www.stuller.com/products/12...yId=21344&recommendationSource=CategoryBrowse
 
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Thank you for all the advice. We will be getting a picture back from frim whiteflash today. Great suggestion!

In Terms of the WF aset and idealscope images. Is there much of a difference? is one better than the other. I do have a hard time on understanding how to decider between the two.
 
First thing I'd do is contact the people at Whiteflash and ask if the strong fluorescence negatively impacts either of the two stones you have selected with it in any way - if there is even a hint of a suggestion it does then eliminate that diamond. If the diamond is a reduced price or seems cheaper than the other stones because of it that should be a huge red flag. Not all diamonds face up a better colour grade because of it, and a small number of them instead appear like they are straining to sparkle or can look milky or frosty when it is really bad.
 
6.40 (J) vs 6.89 ( WF - K) is going to be a noticeable size difference...

I agree with the others to have WF verify no negative effects from SBF and give you a side by side comparison, and if they happen to look very similar (like a low J vs. high K), I'd go with the K. Of course, this all depends on your color tolerance and how you decide to set the stone. Both will look white enough face up, but the side will show tint (this is where the setting comes into play).
 
@LuckyLisa1005 I've asked you this a couple of times in your other thread with no answer but do you think you'd ever upgrade in the future? If so, WF is a lot better since they don't require 2x the cost of the original stone. If you never plan on upgrading (or would rather keep the original regardless), then I'd personally want to get the largest stone for my budget now that falls within ideal parameters with excellent performance.

The color tolerance is a whole other issue that only you could decide. Would I be ok with a K colored MRB as my ering? No, it would be too tinted for my taste. Would you? If yes, then get the largest stone from WF - it's a super ideal and will outperform other rounds you see out there.
 
1. There is a very visible size difference between the WF J and the WF K
2. The WF J is a VVS2, which to me is clarity overkill. Don't like paying for stuff I can't see, or in this case pay to not see stuff I wasn't gonna see in the first place
3. WF K is an ACA, the other 2 are not
4. If you're gonna go K, go for the biggest K
I vote for the WF K!
 
I think upgrading is definitely a possibility. Maybe in 5-10 years time. I am awaiting photographs, and hopefully that will help me better decide my color tolerance. Since it is going in yellow gold.... I may lean to the K. There have been some fantastic Ks shown on this forum.

ac117 said:
@LuckyLisa1005 I've asked you this a couple of times in your other thread with no answer but do you think you'd ever upgrade in the future?
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LuckyLisa1005 said:
Thank you for all the advice. We will be getting a picture back from frim whiteflash today. Great suggestion!

In Terms of the WF aset and idealscope images. Is there much of a difference? is one better than the other. I do have a hard time on understanding how to decider between the two.
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No, both stones look really nice...both AGS000, H&A, ideal and aset images are both nice. I think the only reason the J didnt make ACA is due to the
Strong Fluorescence. I seriously doubt that it affects the stone because I dont think WF would put it in the line up. WF has pretty strict standards.
WF also has a lot of good info on their site. You should take a look at it all when you find the time.
 
In these options/photographs it is very hard to see any difference between the J and the K. I think the best bet for us is to go with the K as you all have kindly suggested. Getting as much weight for our buck. Plus Whiteflash has been such a breeze to work with. And, what a benefit it is to have the option to upgrade in the future!

If you all have any other advice, tips, or recommendations, please share! We have learned so much since turning to this forum!

Thanks so much to everyone who chimed in on this... and to @rockysalamander =)2!! and @John Pollard ! for getting me started and expanding the diamond horizon!

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LuckyLisa1005 said:
In these options/photographs it is very hard to see any difference between the J and the K. I think the best bet for us is to go with the K as you all have kindly suggested. Getting as much weight for our buck. Plus Whiteflash has been such a breeze to work with. And, what a benefit it is to have the option to upgrade in the future!

If you all have any other advice, tips, or recommendations, please share! We have learned so much since turning to this forum!

Thanks so much!!=)2

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No question... the 1.238 K is the winner.
 
msop04 said:
No question... the 1.238 K is the winner.
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Glad to hear you agree. I am beginning to feel that we have left no stone unturned in finding the one!
Not that WF would negotiate .... but just for peace of mind. Is there a good estimating tool , or your opinions, on what a good price point would be for a : 1.238ct super ideal (hearts and arrow) K, VS2, neg flor. ?

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LuckyLisa1005 said:
Glad to hear you agree. I am beginning to feel that we have left no stone unturned in finding the one!
Not that WF would negotiate .... but just for peace of mind. Is there a good estimating tool , or your opinions, on what a good price point would be for a : 1.238ct super ideal (hearts and arrow) K, VS2, neg flor. ?

:read:
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Just go look at HOF stones with similar specs... that should make you feel better. ;)
 
None in my opinion.
I would keep looking for a vs I-j

I feel GIA grades colors a tad most strictly than AGS, I wouldn’t go down to an AGS K, I feel like I often see people here return SGS whiteflash Ks, unhappy with the color for their color tolerance.
 
Glad you've come to a decision! I'm sure it will be a gorgeous stone!
 
Yes, the search feature at the top of this webpage :dance:

LuckyLisa1005 said:
Glad to hear you agree. I am beginning to feel that we have left no stone unturned in finding the one!
Not that WF would negotiate .... but just for peace of mind. Is there a good estimating tool , or your opinions, on what a good price point would be for a : 1.238ct super ideal (hearts and arrow) K, VS2, neg flor. ?

:read:
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Niel said:
None in my opinion.
I would keep looking for a vs I-j

I feel GIA grades colors a tad most strictly than AGS, I wouldn’t go down to an AGS K, I feel like I often see people here return SGS whiteflash Ks, unhappy with the color for their color tolerance.
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Do you still feel this way considering the pictures WF provided, as seen above?
 
I'd get the 1.3 because I'm a size horr. And I like the fatter arrows. And the size. :kiss2:
 
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LuckyLisa1005 said:
Do you still feel this way considering the pictures WF provided, as seen above?
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Yes, in my opinion, if you can afford a J VVS there’s bound to eventually be a diamond out there that’s fits your criteria in a higher color and lower clarity. Places that don’t charge extra for branded stones, for example
 

Thanks Niel! I appreciate the advice.
 
I would suggest you get the 1.238 K VS2 and see it in person before you pay for a setting, make sure they are happy to give you a full refund and see if you can live with/like the colour of it or not. It's the stone I pick out of the 3 above.
 
Thanks for all your help everyone. It been difficult going through with the brick and motor route since we really dont have the time to go check out different vendors. Unfortunately, the one we spent the most time with showed us rocks that weren't up to our standards. Bright and with solid clarity, just sub-par cuts. And she did not have aset or ideal scope images available.

Being able to rely on those images helps tremendously. We will see how it looks when we set it. But I feel fairly happy about the choice. Thanks again to the PS forum for endowing me so much knowledge and advice. =)2
 
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