Old fashioned and proud of it!

[princesss]

Date: 4/23/2009 4:43:04 PM
Author: fuzzers
I'm pretty young to be so old-fashioned, but I can't help it. Raised that way.

I generally don't believe in living together before engagement or marriage. I believe women often get the short end of the stick in that deal. Notice my use of 'generally' and 'often'. Don't hate me.

I'm pretty old-fashioned when it comes to raising kids. I'm very much for spanking. I would get one when I talked back to my parents, and believe it or not... I quickly stopped talking back to my parents. Big shocker! They were pretty stern, and once I grew up I respected them all the more for it.

Not a fan of giving young children iPods and cell phones, even TVs. This seems to be a growing trend...

My folks are paying my way through school (and someday, for my wedding), and I will do the same for my kids. I feel it's my duty. That's just the way we are.

Nice to see some people are old-fashioned too. I feel pretty 'out there' sometimes! lol

Haha, I'm pretty young to be "old-fashioned," too!

I'll probably be an even more old-fashioned parent if I have kids. Calling before going over to somebody's house. Addressing parents as "Mr. and Mrs." until the adult corrects them (I'm 22 and still do this). Family dinners, respect for the elderly, and respect for religion (mine/theirs and others - religion is an important thing and I dislike seeing anybody put down someone's religion) will be important parts of family life as well. I guess I just see child-rearing as part love, part training kids to be the kind of adults you want to be around.

I don't mind cell phones in public for the most part, but I hate them in restaurants. BF and I both keep our phones on silent while we eat, and if we *must* take it, we excuse ourselves from the table and go outside.

 

[TravelingGal]

Date: 4/23/2009 5:00:17 PM
Author: HollyS
Am I old-fashioned? Is the Pope Catholic?

1) All men, unless under 10 or over 80, should either open doors for women or let them through first.

2) If a guy makes a date, he should pay. If two people are just ''getting to know each other'', dutch treat is fine.

3) Children should always address an adult by a Miss, Mrs, or Mr. unless assured by the adult in question that it is okay not to do so.

4) There is business dress, there is casual dress, and there are ''church'' clothes. Casual has nothing whatsoever to do with corporate business dress or church/temple attire. The same applies to weddings and funerals. Simple attire is not the same as ''I''ve just mowed my lawn before Sunday School.'' Sometimes you have to dress for the event, not your comfort. It''s part of being a grownup.

5) And further attire no-nos: Flip flops, ugly tees, and wrinkly-ass cargo shorts do not make any man attractive. And I hate seeing a guy dressed this way for dinner out with a girlfriend that took some effort to be attractive.

6) Children need schedules. The reason some child is having a hissy at a restaurant is because of their need to be in bed for the night, after a nutritious dinner (not scraps from mom''s plate).

I''m sure I can think of more . . .

Hehehe, don''t get me STARTED on that one.

My friends don''t believe I have a kid (in jest, of course). It''s because whenever we got out to restaurants for dinner as a group, TGuy and I are WITHOUT our little girl. She''s at home, in bed by 6:30 pm at the latest with my wonderful mom watching over her. We don''t go out a ton (because I don''t want to abuse my mom''s generosity) but when we do, I want to enjoy it! I can''t enjoy my meal with my kid melting down because she''s so tired she doesn''t know what to do with herself.

Damn, you got me started!!

Speaking of the "yeah" thing. My friend got me thinking about it. For a LONG while, every time her daughter said "yeah", my friend would correct her with "YESSS." And she''d parrot, "yes." Honestly, I found it annoying how often my friend corrected her daughter!

Now years later, she ALWAYS says yes, please. Oh my goodness, music to my ears - and I have to say, I now really don''t like hearing kids saying, yeah, I want that!

 

[HollyS]

Black Jade, I''m sure you''ll have some naysayers respond, but I have to agree with most of what you said. I, too, have seen far too many of those threads, and I stopped posting my responses long ago.

I believe there may be mature adults, fully capable of having a committed relationship without a marriage certificate. But it has become the norm for BF/GF to ''shack up'' prior to any true commitment. I don''t understand the appeal of such an arrangement.

 

[Shoopy]

Date: 4/23/2009 3:31:13 PM
Author: Camille

I adore my kids/DH when they wait for me [seating last] to start eating.

I agree with a lot that has been said already but this one in particular is huge for me. It''s something that I had to teach my brothers. They wouldn''t even wait until the plate got on the table before eating.

Oh and I don''t remember seeing this on here but I think the man should always be the one to propose. I know there are a lot of ladies that wouldn''t mind proposing to their guy but that''s just one area that I feel should be left up to the man.

 

[fuzzers]

Date: 4/23/2009 5:01:56 PM
Author: princesss

Date: 4/23/2009 4:43:04 PM
Author: fuzzers
I''m pretty young to be so old-fashioned, but I can''t help it. Raised that way.

I generally don''t believe in living together before engagement or marriage. I believe women often get the short end of the stick in that deal. Notice my use of ''generally'' and ''often''. Don''t hate me.

I''m pretty old-fashioned when it comes to raising kids. I''m very much for spanking. I would get one when I talked back to my parents, and believe it or not... I quickly stopped talking back to my parents. Big shocker! They were pretty stern, and once I grew up I respected them all the more for it.

Not a fan of giving young children iPods and cell phones, even TVs. This seems to be a growing trend...

My folks are paying my way through school (and someday, for my wedding), and I will do the same for my kids. I feel it''s my duty. That''s just the way we are.

Nice to see some people are old-fashioned too. I feel pretty ''out there'' sometimes! lol

Haha, I''m pretty young to be ''old-fashioned,'' too!

I''ll probably be an even more old-fashioned parent if I have kids. Calling before going over to somebody''s house. Addressing parents as ''Mr. and Mrs.'' until the adult corrects them (I''m 22 and still do this). Family dinners, respect for the elderly, and respect for religion (mine/theirs and others - religion is an important thing and I dislike seeing anybody put down someone''s religion) will be important parts of family life as well. I guess I just see child-rearing as part love, part training kids to be the kind of adults you want to be around.

I don''t mind cell phones in public for the most part, but I hate them in restaurants. BF and I both keep our phones on silent while we eat, and if we *must* take it, we excuse ourselves from the table and go outside.

If one of my professors asks to be called by their first name, I panic a little.

I feel that I should call them Mr. or Mrs.!

 

[TravelingGal]

Date: 4/23/2009 5:34:13 PM
Author: fuzzers

Date: 4/23/2009 5:01:56 PM
Author: princesss

Date: 4/23/2009 4:43:04 PM
Author: fuzzers
I'm pretty young to be so old-fashioned, but I can't help it. Raised that way.

I generally don't believe in living together before engagement or marriage. I believe women often get the short end of the stick in that deal. Notice my use of 'generally' and 'often'. Don't hate me.

I'm pretty old-fashioned when it comes to raising kids. I'm very much for spanking. I would get one when I talked back to my parents, and believe it or not... I quickly stopped talking back to my parents. Big shocker! They were pretty stern, and once I grew up I respected them all the more for it.

Not a fan of giving young children iPods and cell phones, even TVs. This seems to be a growing trend...

My folks are paying my way through school (and someday, for my wedding), and I will do the same for my kids. I feel it's my duty. That's just the way we are.

Nice to see some people are old-fashioned too. I feel pretty 'out there' sometimes! lol

Haha, I'm pretty young to be 'old-fashioned,' too!

I'll probably be an even more old-fashioned parent if I have kids. Calling before going over to somebody's house. Addressing parents as 'Mr. and Mrs.' until the adult corrects them (I'm 22 and still do this). Family dinners, respect for the elderly, and respect for religion (mine/theirs and others - religion is an important thing and I dislike seeing anybody put down someone's religion) will be important parts of family life as well. I guess I just see child-rearing as part love, part training kids to be the kind of adults you want to be around.

I don't mind cell phones in public for the most part, but I hate them in restaurants. BF and I both keep our phones on silent while we eat, and if we *must* take it, we excuse ourselves from the table and go outside.

If one of my professors asks to be called by their first name, I panic a little.

I feel that I should call them Mr. or Mrs.!

Ha, you should have seen my face when my (good looking) dentist came in and said, "Hi, my name is Steven." I'm like, uh, no...I can't call you Steven. I have to call you Dr. (last name) in order to non personify you because I don't like the idea of a good looking guy checking out my cavities.

ETA, that sounded bad!!!

 

[HollyS]

Date: 4/23/2009 5:36:47 PM
Author: TravelingGal

Date: 4/23/2009 5:34:13 PM
Author: fuzzers

Date: 4/23/2009 5:01:56 PM
Author: princesss

Date: 4/23/2009 4:43:04 PM
Author: fuzzers
I''m pretty young to be so old-fashioned, but I can''t help it. Raised that way.

I generally don''t believe in living together before engagement or marriage. I believe women often get the short end of the stick in that deal. Notice my use of ''generally'' and ''often''. Don''t hate me.

I''m pretty old-fashioned when it comes to raising kids. I''m very much for spanking. I would get one when I talked back to my parents, and believe it or not... I quickly stopped talking back to my parents. Big shocker! They were pretty stern, and once I grew up I respected them all the more for it.

Not a fan of giving young children iPods and cell phones, even TVs. This seems to be a growing trend...

My folks are paying my way through school (and someday, for my wedding), and I will do the same for my kids. I feel it''s my duty. That''s just the way we are.

Nice to see some people are old-fashioned too. I feel pretty ''out there'' sometimes! lol

Haha, I''m pretty young to be ''old-fashioned,'' too!

I''ll probably be an even more old-fashioned parent if I have kids. Calling before going over to somebody''s house. Addressing parents as ''Mr. and Mrs.'' until the adult corrects them (I''m 22 and still do this). Family dinners, respect for the elderly, and respect for religion (mine/theirs and others - religion is an important thing and I dislike seeing anybody put down someone''s religion) will be important parts of family life as well. I guess I just see child-rearing as part love, part training kids to be the kind of adults you want to be around.

I don''t mind cell phones in public for the most part, but I hate them in restaurants. BF and I both keep our phones on silent while we eat, and if we *must* take it, we excuse ourselves from the table and go outside.

If one of my professors asks to be called by their first name, I panic a little.

I feel that I should call them Mr. or Mrs.!

Ha, you should have seen my face when my (good looking) dentist came in and said, ''Hi, my name is Steven.'' I''m like, uh, no...I can''t call you Steven. I have to call you Dr. (last name) in order to non personify you because I don''t like the idea of a good looking guy checking out my cavities.

ETA, that sounded bad!!!

*snort*

 

[princesss]

Date: 4/23/2009 5:39:09 PM
Author: HollyS

Date: 4/23/2009 5:36:47 PM
Author: TravelingGal

Date: 4/23/2009 5:34:13 PM
Author: fuzzers

Date: 4/23/2009 5:01:56 PM
Author: princesss

Date: 4/23/2009 4:43:04 PM
Author: fuzzers
I''m pretty young to be so old-fashioned, but I can''t help it. Raised that way.

I generally don''t believe in living together before engagement or marriage. I believe women often get the short end of the stick in that deal. Notice my use of ''generally'' and ''often''. Don''t hate me.

I''m pretty old-fashioned when it comes to raising kids. I''m very much for spanking. I would get one when I talked back to my parents, and believe it or not... I quickly stopped talking back to my parents. Big shocker! They were pretty stern, and once I grew up I respected them all the more for it.

Not a fan of giving young children iPods and cell phones, even TVs. This seems to be a growing trend...

My folks are paying my way through school (and someday, for my wedding), and I will do the same for my kids. I feel it''s my duty. That''s just the way we are.

Nice to see some people are old-fashioned too. I feel pretty ''out there'' sometimes! lol

Haha, I''m pretty young to be ''old-fashioned,'' too!

I''ll probably be an even more old-fashioned parent if I have kids. Calling before going over to somebody''s house. Addressing parents as ''Mr. and Mrs.'' until the adult corrects them (I''m 22 and still do this). Family dinners, respect for the elderly, and respect for religion (mine/theirs and others - religion is an important thing and I dislike seeing anybody put down someone''s religion) will be important parts of family life as well. I guess I just see child-rearing as part love, part training kids to be the kind of adults you want to be around.

I don''t mind cell phones in public for the most part, but I hate them in restaurants. BF and I both keep our phones on silent while we eat, and if we *must* take it, we excuse ourselves from the table and go outside.

If one of my professors asks to be called by their first name, I panic a little.

I feel that I should call them Mr. or Mrs.!

Ha, you should have seen my face when my (good looking) dentist came in and said, ''Hi, my name is Steven.'' I''m like, uh, no...I can''t call you Steven. I have to call you Dr. (last name) in order to non personify you because I don''t like the idea of a good looking guy checking out my cavities.

ETA, that sounded bad!!!

*snort*

I see your *snort* and raise you a *guffaw*

 

[zoebartlett]

I wouldn''t necessarily judge others who do these things, but they''re not my cup of tea.

-- odd piercings. I like either one or two holes in the earlobes only.

-- I''m not a fan of tattoos.

-- long hair on guys.

-- not dressing up somewhat (or appropriately) when going to the theater, nice restaurants, weddings, etc.

-- kids who run a household. As a teacher, it''s so clear to me at times who has control in their family, and it''s not always the parents. This bugs me to no end. This might not be considered old fashioned but it''s something I notice more and more these days.

-- kids with little or no manners (interrupting or speaking in an unkind way to others, etc.).

-- not giving up your seat when appropriate.

-- walking through a door and not looking behind you to see if someone''s there.

 

[dragonfly411]

Tgal - I''m 23 and old fashioned. YAY!!! Here are my old fashioned things:
I believe the guy should pay not only on the first date, but regularly after for the first bit of the relationship
I believe he should open my door/hold doors open and I believe in doing so for others
I believe in being courteous even to people I do not know.
I believe in respect for elders
I believe in having a guy/girl meet parents before coming even remotely close to staying together
And he should TOTALLY carry heavy things for ANY woman hehe

 

[Linda W]

Date: 4/23/2009 5:00:17 PM
Author: HollyS
Am I old-fashioned? Is the Pope Catholic?

1) All men, unless under 10 or over 80, should either open doors for women or let them through first.


2) If a guy makes a date, he should pay. If two people are just ''getting to know each other'', dutch treat is fine.


3) Children should always address an adult by a Miss, Mrs, or Mr. unless assured by the adult in question that it is okay not to do so.


4) There is business dress, there is casual dress, and there are ''church'' clothes. Casual has nothing whatsoever to do with corporate business dress or church/temple attire. The same applies to weddings and funerals. Simple attire is not the same as ''I''ve just mowed my lawn before Sunday School.'' Sometimes you have to dress for the event, not your comfort. It''s part of being a grownup.


5) And further attire no-nos: Flip flops, ugly tees, and wrinkly-ass cargo shorts do not make any man attractive. And I hate seeing a guy dressed this way for dinner out with a girlfriend that took some effort to be attractive.


6) Children need schedules. The reason some child is having a hissy at a restaurant is because of their need to be in bed for the night, after a nutritious dinner (not scraps from mom''s plate).


I''m sure I can think of more . . .

ha ha ha ha ha Holly, I also hate those wrinkly Cargo shorts.

 

[Elmorton]

Date: 4/23/2009 4:25:54 PM
Author: Kaleigh
Doesn''t apply so much now, as kids use cell phones. But when the kids were little and they wanted to call a friend, I always had them address the Mom ( if she answers the phone ) and Say Hi Mrs Smith, This is Ashley **** May I speak with Sarah please? And wanted their friends to do the same. But that hardly ever happened. I got yeah, is Ash there??

Please and thank you are Musts.
Opening the door is a must
Kids need to call me Mrs ********
The older kids who are now 21 and have known their whole lives can call me Lisa, no biggie there.


Eating together as a family was rule numero uno. In the dining room..

I don''t care for gum chewing. It was a big no no in my house growing up, but then again Mom must have thought she was the Queen of England.

But some how, I still feel guilty if I have a piece of gum. Go figure...

Fun thread, TGal!!!!

Kaleigh, when I was younger I had a friend whose house rule was that everyone (adults included) answered the phone "Lastname Residence." If the caller didn''t say "Hello Mrs. Lastname (or Mr.Lastname, whichever answered), this is Myname. May I speak to Kid?" the parents would HANG UP! I was a little confused the first time it happened, but you can bet I never did it again because I wanted to chat with my friend. To this day, when I call someone, I start out saying "Hi, this is Elmorton" right after the person says "Hello?" to answer.

I''m pretty old-fashioned about most things, I think - more so than even my parents. I''m not sure anyone has said anything that I disagree with yet!

 

[IloveAsschers13]

Date: 4/23/2009 3:52:28 PM
Author: Haven
The lady in my pinup tattoo is primly sitting with her legs crossed at the ankle, not the knee.


Other than that, I'm not old fashioned at all.

I knew I liked you a lot Haven!

So far this is the only post I completely agree with.

Now I'm off on a date with my BF which we're both paying.

 

[Ara Ann]

My parents retired to Florida and dine out often...what drives my mother INSANE is when a younger waiter/waitress comes to take their order and greets them with a "Hi GUYS" blah, blah... I have now picked up her sensitivity to that and when my girlfriends and I are out and someone addresses us as "Guys" - it makes me a little crazy too! Would it be so hard to just say, "hello ladies," or even just "hello!"?


And my hubby and son always open doors for ladies and especially my car door, LOL...sometimes they have a race to get to it first...my son always opens doors for strangers at stores too, he''s just turned 14, but has done that since he was very young...he usually gets a nice "Thank you young man," but other times, people are just rude and walk right past...but he does it because it''s the nice thing to do, he doesn''t do it for the ''thank yous'' so he''ll keep doing it regardless.


And since we have a long, hard to pronounce last name, most kids call us Mr./Mrs. "H" and that is fine with us!

 

[sunnyd]

Well I must be a hooligan because I have tattoos and weird piercings and lived with FI wayyy before the ring and have never addressed anyone as Mr or Mrs except for school (not even college!)

buuuut...

I do love having the family dinners together
Completely agree with giving up your seat and have a story:

I take the bus to and from work, one day it got so full that by the time we got to the last stop, the driver told everyone waiting we couldn''t take anymore people. This 9 month pregnant lady gets on anyway and NOONE STOOD UP! Finally a woman who had 4 bags in her lap got up. I mean, REALLY guys?!?!

I couldn''t believe it.

 

[bebe]

Great thread.

I would have to say I am old fashioned and proud of it.

It is heart warming to see so many here that are as well. Maybe we aren''t all doomed just yet!

 

[niccia]

I agree with Italia on the Mr. and Mrs. thing...I think it is a little too formal for me. When I was a child, we knew a family whose children always had to refer to adults as Mr. and Mrs. and my parents hated it. To this day, they still call my mum and dad that and they are now in their 30''s and 40''s ! If someone insists on being referred to like that, that''s fine with me, but I myself like kids to feel comfortable around me too.
I do like it when men hold doors/open car doors/pull out chairs for women. My dad once opened the door for a woman at the mall and she shouted at him "I can do it myself thank you!" What a b$%#@!
I like family teas and dinner at the table together.
I like sending letters in the mail sometimes instead of email. Especially if I have pretty stationary.

 

[HollyS]

Date: 4/23/2009 6:11:12 PM
Author: Linda W

Date: 4/23/2009 5:00:17 PM
Author: HollyS
Am I old-fashioned? Is the Pope Catholic?

1) All men, unless under 10 or over 80, should either open doors for women or let them through first.


2) If a guy makes a date, he should pay. If two people are just 'getting to know each other', dutch treat is fine.


3) Children should always address an adult by a Miss, Mrs, or Mr. unless assured by the adult in question that it is okay not to do so.


4) There is business dress, there is casual dress, and there are 'church' clothes. Casual has nothing whatsoever to do with corporate business dress or church/temple attire. The same applies to weddings and funerals. Simple attire is not the same as 'I've just mowed my lawn before Sunday School.' Sometimes you have to dress for the event, not your comfort. It's part of being a grownup.


5) And further attire no-nos: Flip flops, ugly tees, and wrinkly-ass cargo shorts do not make any man attractive. And I hate seeing a guy dressed this way for dinner out with a girlfriend that took some effort to be attractive.


6) Children need schedules. The reason some child is having a hissy at a restaurant is because of their need to be in bed for the night, after a nutritious dinner (not scraps from mom's plate).


I'm sure I can think of more . . .

ha ha ha ha ha Holly, I also hate those wrinkly Cargo shorts.

Yeah, maybe it's an 'age thing'. To correct myself, I should have said "who took some effort to be attractive" when referring to the woman. I just appalled every teacher on this thread. *sorry*

 

[Ara Ann]

Speaking of making an effort in the appearance category, when going to dinner...WHY do people insist on wearing nasty clothes, like dirty cut offs and tee shirts, out to dinner? I mean, fast food is one thing, but any ''nicer'' sit down kind of place should make people realize they need to put on some decent clothes before they go out to eat!

My hubby and I went to a VERY nice restaurant for dinner...this place is very pricey, has table cloths, candles, romantic setting, nicely attired waitstaff and is a ''romantic destination'' kind of place. We dressed nicely for dinner, but I was shocked to see several people in one group that looked like they should have been at McDonald''s AND had a crying, temper tantrum throwing three year old kid with them. Why do people insist on spoiling a special night, for others? If they don''t want to dress in a way that reflects the environment, they should go to a less formal place. Is that being old fashioned? I think so...

One of my pet peeves.

 

[mrssalvo]

Just to clarify, I do allow my kids to call a grown up by their first name if they are a close friend of ours and they give my kids permission, but they still must use a miss or mr...like Miss susan or Mr. John.

and ditto to all who said hand written thank you notes. I still write them and I have my kids write them after receiving gifts.

My best friend and I have known each other since we were 10 years old. I always called her parents Mr. and Mrs...(their last name) even to this day, 25 years later I cannot call them by their first names even though they will send me a card or gifts for my kids and sign their first names. they will forever be Mr. and Mrs. B.....

I always make my kids say "yes" instead of yeah...or "pardon me", instead of "huh?"

I always do not like it when kids (or adults for that matter) interrupt. I have to work very hard with my kids on this one. especially when I''m on the phone..

 

[PinkTower]

I am a teacher. I place great emphasis on teaching a child to use spoons and forks correctly. It is an important indirect preparation for handwriting. I am always surprised when I mention to a parent that their child is holding their utensil in an overhand type grasp, and the parent seems surprised by the observation. I also have to teach children to place their napkins in their laps, chew with their mouths closed, wait until all are finished before leaving the table, and other basic mealtime conduct guidelines. I honestly think these things were ingrained upon me by my mother, not my teacher.

 

[vespergirl]

Manners - please and thank you always.

Husband acting with chivalry towards the wife.

I cook dinner six nights a week, where the family eats together, then we usually go out one night a week as a treat.

And, I know this one isn''t as popular these days, but I am all for staying at home with my son until he starts school - for our family, it was important for the mom (me) to stay for the important first three formative years.

 

[Black Jade]

Date: 4/23/2009 5:24:10 PM
Author: HollyS
Black Jade, I''m sure you''ll have some naysayers respond, but I have to agree with most of what you said. I, too, have seen far too many of those threads, and I stopped posting my responses long ago.

I believe there may be mature adults, fully capable of having a committed relationship without a marriage certificate. But it has become the norm for BF/GF to ''shack up'' prior to any true commitment. I don''t understand the appeal of such an arrangement.

Thanks for your response, HollyS

Actually, although I think good manners make life more pleasant, I have no opinion on whether or not someone has tatoos or men have long hair or whatever. I think those things are a personal choice (although if you show up to a job interview, say, not looking professional, you have no right to complain that your choice made you lose the job). I do feel sad on occasions like the one when a friend''s daughter came over to dinner, saw the table set properly with linens and silver and blurted out, "Oh, this is like a cruise ship or a restaurant! I''ve never seen the table set like this at anyone''s home!" But I''m sure that it''s less harmful in the long run to eat on paper plates at all times, and to call all your friend''s parents by their first names than to make poor moral choices that will harm your future marriage and the quality of your intimate life. Hair can be cut, tatoos can be (painfully) erased and you can learn which fork to use first at age 40, but the emotional repercussions of having lived with someone and been strung along and then dumped, especially if you really, trustingly gave your heart to them are lifelong and affect all future relationships.

 

[Ara Ann]

Date: 4/23/2009 7:37:05 PM
Author: vespergirl
Manners - please and thank you always.


Husband acting with chivalry towards the wife.


I cook dinner six nights a week, where the family eats together, then we usually go out one night a week as a treat.


And, I know this one isn''t as popular these days, but I am all for staying at home with my son until he starts school - for our family, it was important for the mom (me) to stay for the important first three formative years.

About the early formative years for children, I have been a SAHM and my youngest is 14...I can tell you and other moms from experience (both as a mom and a one time teen, LOL), it''s almost more important to be home when your middle school pre-teen/ teenagers are home, after school and during summer break...these are the years they can have too much freedom and get into serious trouble, if left on their own too often. The early years are the good old days, compared to the teen years...and I have good kids...there were many horror stories about other kids and the trouble they got into while both parents were at work. Not knocking working parents, but just be aware, the real parenting starts after age 10, in many ways.

 

[OUpearlgirl]

Some of my friends are surprised I am so old fashioned... I''m 22 and glad that my mother instilled these things in me. Now, some of these are things I do, but I don''t judge someone who thinks differently. Other things I find QUITE rude.

No phones at dinner.
No honking on dates.
Give up seats for elderly.. Not just on the bus. When it''s Christmas day, let Grandma sit in the nice chair.
Wait for the elder of two women to extend her hand when shaking.
Proper table etiquette.
No jeans to the following places: church, musical/play, wedding, date (unless very casual), work, tea party, shower, and many more.
In church keep your shoulders covered. Spaghetti strap dresses should be worn with a shrug or cardigan. They are cute anyway!
Don''t call guys.
No living together before marriage.
Call people by their titles.
Always thank the hostess.


There are so many more. I love all of these proper PSers!

 

[HollyS]

Date: 4/23/2009 7:20:37 PM
Author: Ara Ann
Speaking of making an effort in the appearance category, when going to dinner...WHY do people insist on wearing nasty clothes, like dirty cut offs and tee shirts, out to dinner? I mean, fast food is one thing, but any ''nicer'' sit down kind of place should make people realize they need to put on some decent clothes before they go out to eat!

My hubby and I went to a VERY nice restaurant for dinner...this place is very pricey, has table cloths, candles, romantic setting, nicely attired waitstaff and is a ''romantic destination'' kind of place. We dressed nicely for dinner, but I was shocked to see several people in one group that looked like they should have been at McDonald''s AND had a crying, temper tantrum throwing three year old kid with them. Why do people insist on spoiling a special night, for others? If they don''t want to dress in a way that reflects the environment, they should go to a less formal place. Is that being old fashioned? I think so...

One of my pet peeves.

I could have written this. Amen, sister.

 

[OUpearlgirl]

One more... the proper response to "Thank you" is "your welcome"... not "uh huh", "sure'', "no problem", or anything else.

 

[HollyS]

Date: 4/23/2009 7:46:34 PM
Author: OUpeargirl
Some of my friends are surprised I am so old fashioned... I''m 22 and glad that my mother instilled these things in me. Now, some of these are things I do, but I don''t judge someone who thinks differently. Other things I find QUITE rude.

No phones at dinner.
No honking on dates.
Give up seats for elderly.. Not just on the bus. When it''s Christmas day, let Grandma sit in the nice chair.
Wait for the elder of two women to extend her hand when shaking.
Proper table etiquette.
No jeans to the following places: church, musical/play, wedding, date (unless very casual), work, tea party, shower, and many more.
In church keep your shoulders covered. Spaghetti strap dresses should be worn with a shrug or cardigan. They are cute anyway!
Don''t call guys.
No living together before marriage.
Call people by their titles.
Always thank the hostess.


There are so many more. I love all of these proper PSers!

The ''baring one''s body in church'' has really gotten out of hand lately. The strapless look, halters, and the midriff peaking out of a too short top. Oh, and the excessive cleavage on display. I often wonder what the priest thinks as he administers Holy Communion.

 

[luvthemstrawberries]

I know many people don''t do this anymore, but I was so pleased and surprised to know that my boyfriend took it upon himself to totally dupe me and went to my parents'' house and stayed for hours, where he made his purpose known and asked for their blessing. He was very honest with them, and I think they really appreciate that he was respectful enough to do that. And I know they like him very much, even more so now. He was literally over there for hours with them, just sitting and talking, haha and all without me!

I just think it''s still a very respectful thing, even though many women, just like me, are off and already independent, and not really "being taken off their parents'' hands" or "straight out of their parents'' house," but when the girl still has a good relationship with her parents, I think it''s a great thing for the guy to show that respect to her parents and make his intentions known.

 

[iluvcarats]

Date: 4/23/2009 3:11:33 PM
Author: NewEnglandLady
Until somewhat recently, I did not think I had any old-fashioned ideals. I always felt that women should pay half, never rely on anybody for anything and strive for fierce independence. As I become more mature and secure, I''m starting to find myself becoming more old-fashioned without losing any independence, but gaining a lot of happiness


-I believe in doting on your husband--a man will return the love ten-fold

-I believe in children fearing their parents

-I believe the title of Mr./Mrs. for a child''s elders is respectful

-I don''t believe in buying any joint assets before marriage

-I believe in children working for an allowance

-I don''t believe in credit

-I believe that family really does come first and am genuinely happy to give up a career I love the moment my husband and I have a child


I find it strange that as I get older I get more old-fashioned, but I wish I hadn''t waited so long


ETA: I agree about giving up seats for the elderly. I used to commute via public transportation with my husband and he is very sensitive to giving up his seat to the elderly or disabled. One day he gave up his seat for an elderly woman and she said ''Honey, your husband is a real gentleman''. She''s right and it''s something I really respect.

I agree with everything you said NEL, and Tgal, I also agree that there is nothing wrong with credit cards as long as you pay them off at the end of the month.

Black Jade, I disagree with you. I met DH when I was 17 and in college. He was my first boyfriend. We lived together, got married and 20 years and 2 kids later are still very much in love.

Obviously living together shouldn''t be treated casually, but I don''t think I would want to marry someone without living with them first.