Need Opinion on this Jubilee!

[noobie]

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On 7/8/2004 5:24:07 PM Mara wrote:







Noob..hee! I was actually looking at the 1.29 long before you posted about it AND I had asked WF to hold it for me a few days before you even posted about it and it took a few days to remove it after that. So I don't feel TOO guilty!

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Hee hee.... yeah but I need something to razz you about

 

[noobie]

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On 7/8/2004 7:02:14 PM Rhino wrote:





Sorry peeps and I know off topic but is a front projection like the thing that you mount in the ceiling? Another question... if you had to choose between plasma or lcd which would you choose?
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Very quickly to not stray too far, yeah front PJ is usually ceiling mounted and gives the largest picture and most cinema like experience (watched the Superbowl in HDTV on a 110" screen, unbelievable!) Between lcd and plasma I assume you mean direct view versus rear projection lcd. LCD's are still currently size restricted. It depends on what you are going to watch and where you are going to watch. Check out www.avsforum.com
It's the PS of home theater and a AV geek's paradise. I spent six months researching before building my home theater. Drop me an e-mail if you need more info.

And no, in case you're wondering .... all of my PS purchases are not payback for my home theater toys. She loves it as much as I do

 

[chrono]

All right PS Regulars, let me throw another diamond into the mix. Please view this website for the specs:

http://www.goodoldgold.com/square_cushion_1_01ct_j_vs1_h%26a.htm

Knowing of course that diamond will cost more because it is a 1ct (and has MB fluor

), which is a better buy? It looks as though the Jubilee is still a better value although this Hope is a stunner in itself.

Lots of comments please.

Oh, and Mara, this diamond is probably wayyyyy too small for your tastes.

 

[ep6585]

They're both very nice. Do you think the size difference is worth twice the cost? That's really what it boils down to.

Unless of course you prefer one of the shapes over the other one.

 

[noobie]

Well if money was not a concern, I'd say square cushion all the way.

Is that .70 next to it? You can definitely tell the square is bigger, but I would have thought it would look even bigger with 30 more points of weight.




Relatively, how much more is the cushion compared to the Jube?

 

[ep6585]

The depth% on the square cushion is around 70% versus 65% for the Jubilee.

 

[researcher]

I love both cuts and think they will look very similar once set. Therefore, my vote is for the jubilee (even though loose I like the square cushion more)!

 

[chrono]

Noobie,
Let's just say that the Hope costs twice as much as the Jubilee. I think you know how much that is since you almost bought that very same Jubilee youself. I hope Jonathan will not get mad at me for talking about the cost.

I'm trying to keep the cost vague as I think he doesn't want to see numbers flying around on PS.

In terms of value, I am starting to think that the Jubilee is a better buy. Yes, the Hope is bigger as it should be for a 1 ct, but the Jubilee, at half the cost sure looks big too, especially for a 0.7ct that looks like a 0.8ct. And all else are the same (color, the Hope is a little cleaner at VS1 but VS2 is perfectly clean too), and all the LScope and Bscope readings are beautiful.

I am going to have a major headache just thinking about this over the weekend.

 

[noobie]

Well chrono, I do prefer the square, but I think you know what I would do. Another way to look at it is: Do you want something that looks beautiful like the square OR do want a ring that looks pretty much the same when set and only slightly smaller (may not even be able to notice unless side by side) AND a set of 1.4 ctw studs or a .9 carat pendant or a .80 carat fancy yellow radiant ring or .... fill in the blank. You get the idea!




However if you really want a bigger rock and the square cushion is your budget, I'm sure you'll be able to find a Jubilee that looks a lot bigger than the .70 and not just a little bit bigger. It might take two months, but I would wait.




Good luck... tough decisions, but nice ones to able to make

 

[Rhino]

Thanks for the feedback noob. The LCD's only go up to 32" and we just checked out the new Sony XBR model. HOLY CRAP WHAT A PICTURE! It blew away the plasma's we were looking at. I think that's what we're going to go with since that size is fine for our store and I just can't get over the picture quality.

Ok... back to our regularly scheduled programming.

 

[researcher]

Rhino~
When are you going to get in .25ct jubs or square cushions? I would love to have my 5-stone wedding band made with them--or a nice eternity band just for fun!

 

[noobie]

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On 7/9/2004 4:16:32 PM Rhino wrote:





Thanks for the feedback noob. The LCD's only go up to 32' and we just checked out the new Sony XBR model. HOLY CRAP WHAT A PICTURE! It blew away the plasma's we were looking at. I think that's what we're going to go with since that size is fine for our store and I just can't get over the picture quality.

Ok... back to our regularly scheduled programming.
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Another commercial diversion. Is it the Sony XBR direct view CRT or the Grand Wega rear projection LCD? One thing to keep in mind for store use if you are going to play the same material for extended periods is burn in. CRTs and plasmas will burn in, LCD and DLP don't. However CRTs and plasma probably have the best field of view for looking at it in various locations in the store. If you do decide on plasma for the store, you may wish to go commercial like the Pioneer CMX503 which is the commercial version of the 5030. Depending what source you plan to run, EDTV resolution may be fine as well. Lastly beware of the source when viewing. These guys like to use the equivalent of jewelery store lights to show off the best.

OK, back to chrono's decision and actually researchers question as well. Are there going to be any small matching Jubilee's or square cushions at 10 to 20 points suitable for a band?

 

[chrono]

Noobie & Researcher,
I was thinking the same thing; small matching Jubilees (10 and 20 pointers) for the band. That would be lovely. Thanks for the suggestions. I think I've narrowed my decision down to two out of your three choices. In fact, I am already leaning towards one final choice but I need to do a little more research and thinking to be 100% sure. I definitely love the idea of smaller sized Jubes to set in a band or as side stones.

Can you just imagine that?

 

[ep6585]

Did you make a decision on which diamond to get?

 

[valeria101]

It seems to me that double prongas hide most of the difference (of shape and size)between these two. Not that this is the way to go - just a note that the setting you have in mind may actually showcase one stone better. Any thoughts ?

 

[chrono]

Thanks for the visual Val.

This agrees exactly with my thoughts: if both stones are set in prongs, there isn't much visual difference in size and shape between the Hope and Jubilee. I thought about using double prongs but they seem to overpower the diamond in your picture. Or is that just me?

 

[valeria101]

Glad to help

Actually, I like the double prong on the jubilee and the single prongs on the cushion - just proof that tastes do not have to make sense. On the other hand, the huge dots in the picture correspond to some rather small prongs in real life: relative to the size of the stones, those would turn out about 1mm tick - already a stretch I would think...

 

[verticalhorizon]

Agreed, I thought the prongs were going to be some huge deal (figuratively and literally), but they were so small and unobtrusive in real life. Don't worry about it!

 

[ep6585]

I'm planning to set my Jubilee in Vatche's new double x-prong setting that's shown in this picture with a round diamond.

 

[noobie]

Hey ep, I think your new Jube is going to look fabulous is that setting!




Yes and isn't AnA a gem! Always so helpful. I kinda prefer single prongs in general, but the double does look good on the Jubilee. It will also depend upon the rest of the setting and basket whether or not single and double are suited, IMHO.




So chrono, final answer is...........

 

[chrono]

Ep, that setting is just beautiful. I haven't seen it anywhere else. Does Vatche have the double x-prong setting for a 3 stone as well? I've looked everywhere in their website but haven't seen this new double prong setting.

Noobie, you haven't been able to guess which one I'm choosing from all these posts?

I think I'll be bad and leave that unanswered until later this week. Truthfully, I do need to call Rhino first to ask him a couple more questions before I finalize my decision but I think in my heart, I already know what I am going to do.

What do you all think about having a Jubilee flanked by 2 sapphires? Blue sapphires or some other sapphire color (or even the colour changing sapphires)? Somehow, I think blue seems to accent the whiteness of the diamond best. Will they improve the J colour?

What about the shape of the side stones since the Jube is square? I think rounds will look kinda funny. What about pears?

 

[ep6585]

Marie at GOG got me the picture of the Vatche double x-prong. It's a new design that Jonathan said he saw at the Vegas trade show last month. Marie said Vatche was gonna list it on their website sometime after their vacation.

 

[Mara]

The Jubilee still seems like the best deal. At twice the cost that square cushion doesn't add enough extra spread for me! If I am going to pay TWICE the cost, it better be really worth it.

Though I will say that the 2nd stone is an eye popper with that IS image and the Bscope results!!

 

[verticalhorizon]

smaller Jubilees would make the best side stones! But other than that I say trapazoids would be the best bet!


PS: Sorry, I've been out of it... those Hope's are twice the $$/carat?? Wow.

 

[noobie]

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On 7/12/2004 1:12:45 PM verticalhorizon wrote:





PS: Sorry, I've been out of it... those Hope's are twice the $$/carat?? Wow.
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VH, I believe that the Hope and Jube have similar $/carat. What's going on here is three things, VS2 grade vs VS1 for Hope, a 65% depth versus 70% for Hope and very importantly a 1.01 carat weight, pushing it over the magic 1.0 mark. This results in two stones that look very close in spread, with one being twice the other. There is 31 points of difference in weight.

chrono, check out dianne's ring. She has a regent with blue sapphires, that's just beautiful. Maybe AnA will be so kind as to make some more graphics. She made some for me in the past regarding a similar question that were very helpful.

 

[chrono]

Thanks Noobie for explaining the differences between the Hope and Jubilee so clearly. The cost of the Hope and Jube are actually pretty much the same per carat. Those 3 reasons you stated are the reasons why I have a preference of one over the other.

Yes, I've been doing some search on Dianne's and Patty's rings. Beautiful. Maybe if I beg and grovel, AnA will take pity on me and create some lovely graphics showing various blue sidestones complementing the center Jubilee.

AnA, how do you create such graphics?

 

[noobie]

Here you go chrono, this is courtesy of our resident graphics expert AnA




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[chrono]

Thanks AnA and Noobie for posting that. Can you also please post the Jube with 2 sapphire trillions?

FYI: I am getting the J VS2

 

[ep6585]

Good choice. It was the better value of the two and it'll look great.

 

[chrono]

Okay. I "borrowed" these from Blue Nile. They have the best website for picturing settings. What do you think of the trillion setting? The proportions are perfect/exactly as my diamond would be. Center stone of 5.3mm and side trillion of 4mm. Just imagine the trillions are blue in colour.