Need CAD help!!!

[Ms_Lovely]

I wasn't supposed to see these images but my honey broke down and showed them to me because he doesn't know what he should be looking for. Well, neither do I The more I look though, the more I'm beginning to worry about the width of the shank for this ring. It's being made in a size 10.25 with a 2mm shank. There will be hand-set 1.6mm diamonds going halfway down the shank as well. Is 2mm going to be too thin? I've read that if the shank is too thin, the ring can be top heavy and kind of wobble when you wear it but I don't want it to be too chunky, I'll be wearing it everyday and it's 14k white gold.

 

[CharmyPoo]

Who are you using to make the ring? Those CADs look like child's play (sorry no offense).

There are really nice versions of this ring already made ... why go custom?

 

[TracyBear]

Beautiful design you got there! 2mm will look very dainty on your size 10.25 finger. It won't look too thick and it'll be sturdy since you're having it done in 14kt gold. I think you can even go up to 2.2mm and it'll still look fine if you're worried that it'll be too thin. I'm a 3.25 finger size and I wear a 2mm band. It's a little thick for my taste, but it's super sturdy so that's a was good tradeoff for me. Btw, a beautiful CAD design does not guarantee a beautiful final product. In my opinion, what's most important is that you've chosen someone with experience. Quality rings were being made before we had computers so that's my opinion on CADs.

There are really nice versions of this ring already made ... why go custom?

Maybe it's pricing? Her CAD looks similar to Tiffany & Co's ribbon ring which cost much more than having it custom made. Using that fund towards a better quality diamond isn't a bad idea. If she's OK with getting a replica setting, then I've seen them for ~$2K all over the place, but they only go up to a 1ct diamond. If she's blessed with a larger diamond, then she's better off having it custom made for better proportions.

 

[CharmyPoo]

Maybe it's pricing? Her CAD looks similar to Tiffany & Co's ribbon ring which cost much more than having it custom made. Using that fund towards a better quality diamond isn't a bad idea. If she's OK with getting a replica setting, then I've seen them for ~$2K all over the place, but they only go up to a 1ct diamond. If she's blessed with a larger diamond, then she's better off having it custom made for better proportions.

See this thread where mutliple ready made replica options were discussed. Gab&Co has it made for mutliple diamond sizes and I believe her stone is around a ct but can't remember now.
[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/good-old-gold-policy-question.186606/page-2']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/good-old-gold-policy-question.186606/page-2[/URL]

 

[CharmyPoo]

I just re-read my post and don't think tone was coming through approriately. I meant to ask who you are using to make the ring as the CAD work looks less professional than we see here. Has me concerned about capability unless it is a known vendor with examples. If the price is not too different, I would stick with the ready made options which I think has some nicer features than what the CAD is showing.

I have multiple rings were the shank is 1.5 mm and the rings don't spin. They are sized well and the diamond is set low and is well balanced. I am thinking you should have 1.8mm melee for a 2mm shank or else you will have a lot of metal! I think the original is more like 2.3-2.5mm shank but I need to go look at pics again. I think too thin of a shank on the ribbon ring ruins the look a bit.

 

[TracyBear]

See this thread where mutliple ready made replica options were discussed. Gab&Co has it made for mutliple diamond sizes and I believe her stone is around a ct but can't remember now.
[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/good-old-gold-policy-question.186606/page-2']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/good-old-gold-policy-question.186606/page-2[/URL]

I think the problem when you're finger size is either too small or on the larger side, is that the proportions are off when you take a premade ring and size it up or down. If there's already a ring exactly like her design with the 2mm shank that fits her diamond and her finger size, then I'm at odds why she wouldn't take the easy way out and just purchase it premade. It's a faster process and it cost less as well.

 

[Ms_Lovely]

Maybe it's pricing? Her CAD looks similar to Tiffany & Co's ribbon ring which cost much more than having it custom made. Using that fund towards a better quality diamond isn't a bad idea. If she's OK with getting a replica setting, then I've seen them for ~$2K all over the place, but they only go up to a 1ct diamond. If she's blessed with a larger diamond, then she's better off having it custom made for better proportions.

See this thread where mutliple ready made replica options were discussed. Gab&Co has it made for mutliple diamond sizes and I believe her stone is around a ct but can't remember now.
[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/good-old-gold-policy-question.186606/page-2']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/good-old-gold-policy-question.186606/page-2[/URL]

The G & co. ring was nice but it ultimately wasn't the design I loved. Not to mention it would have had to be custom fitted with a round head according to the Gabriel rep so that would have taken the price up to about what this ring will cost which is $1400. This design looks dead-on the Tiffany which is the main reason it's our top option.

 

[Ms_Lovely]

See this thread where mutliple ready made replica options were discussed. Gab&Co has it made for mutliple diamond sizes and I believe her stone is around a ct but can't remember now.
[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/good-old-gold-policy-question.186606/page-2']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/good-old-gold-policy-question.186606/page-2[/URL]

I think the problem when you're finger size is either too small or on the larger side, is that the proportions are off when you take a premade ring and size it up or down. If there's already a ring exactly like her design with the 2mm shank that fits her diamond and her finger size, then I'm at odds why she wouldn't take the easy way out and just purchase it premade. It's a faster process and it cost less as well.

There wasn't another ring exactly like this one. There were some that were very similar and for a while I thought I was going to end up with the Stuller version which is $1100 which would have been fine with me. I think it only goes up to a 9 so it would have needed sizing. So, we decided to check into custom to see if we could get a closer replica for a comparable price.

 

[Ms_Lovely]

I just re-read my post and don't think tone was coming through approriately. I meant to ask who you are using to make the ring as the CAD work looks less professional than we see here. Has me concerned about capability unless it is a known vendor with examples. If the price is not too different, I would stick with the ready made options which I think has some nicer features than what the CAD is showing.

I have multiple rings were the shank is 1.5 mm and the rings don't spin. They are sized well and the diamond is set low and is well balanced. I am thinking you should have 1.8mm melee for a 2mm shank or else you will have a lot of metal! I think the original is more like 2.3-2.5mm shank but I need to go look at pics again. I think too thin of a shank on the ribbon ring ruins the look a bit.

David Klass comes pretty highly recommended on different forums I've seen? I think a PSer actually gave me his contact info. What else should I ask him to include in the next version of CADs? I was thinking a 2.5 might work better for my finger and probably for the design. Maybe he made it thinner because I have a smaller center (.77 ct)?

 

[Jax172]

Ooo I don't think he is very popular here as he has done some subpar copies of psers custom made rings.

 

[LibbyLA]

You could probably do 2.5 or 2.75 (or even 3) and it would still look reasonably delicate. I have size 8 fingers and 2 mm just disappears on my finger.

liz

 

[Enerchi]

I like your ribbon design, and I completely agree that CAD's often lack the finesse of what the finished product will look like in the end. Just be VERY clear to your designer about all the finishing details you are wanting in your ring - email and a record of your correspondence is your best bet, so if anything does veer from the path, you can refer back.

I have a size 7.75 LH/8 RH and a 2mm band is about the smallest that looks right on my fingers... but we all vary, right? tee hee!

Looks lovely - will the diamond be partially bezel set on the 'ribbon' portion or will there be prongs? (not shown) and do you want the diamond set higher/lower/same height as the ribbon - this height looks good to me, just thought I'd ask the question, that's all

 

[Ms_Lovely]

I like your ribbon design, and I completely agree that CAD's often lack the finesse of what the finished product will look like in the end. Just be VERY clear to your designer about all the finishing details you are wanting in your ring - email and a record of your correspondence is your best bet, so if anything does veer from the path, you can refer back.

I have a size 7.75 LH/8 RH and a 2mm band is about the smallest that looks right on my fingers... but we all vary, right? tee hee!

Looks lovely - will the diamond be partially bezel set on the 'ribbon' portion or will there be prongs? (not shown) and do you want the diamond set higher/lower/same height as the ribbon - this height looks good to me, just thought I'd ask the question, that's all

This really helps a lot The center will be bezel-set.

 

[Ms_Lovely]

I like your ribbon design, and I completely agree that CAD's often lack the finesse of what the finished product will look like in the end. Just be VERY clear to your designer about all the finishing details you are wanting in your ring - email and a record of your correspondence is your best bet, so if anything does veer from the path, you can refer back.

I have a size 7.75 LH/8 RH and a 2mm band is about the smallest that looks right on my fingers... but we all vary, right? tee hee!

Looks lovely - will the diamond be partially bezel set on the 'ribbon' portion or will there be prongs? (not shown) and do you want the diamond set higher/lower/same height as the ribbon - this height looks good to me, just thought I'd ask the question, that's all

This really helps a lot The center will be bezel-set and I want the diamond slightly higher.

 

[Ms_Lovely]

If I go 2.5 or 2.75, what size diamonds should I ask him to use in the shank so that it doesn't show so much metal?

 

[Enerchi]

I don't know if this would be transferable info, but I wonder if on Charmy's thread about HW cushion halo's, if there are recommendations there for melee sizes??

[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/cushion-101-my-experience-in-making-a-harry-winston-halo.183473/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/cushion-101-my-experience-in-making-a-harry-winston-halo.183473/[/URL]

 

[maccers]

Hi Ms_Lovely

I'm not CAD expert but I LOVE the idea of the ribbon setting - it's so cool and unique.

Sounds like you're already considering getting a wider shank, I think that's a really good idea. 2mm is really thin (sturdy but thin) and it could get lost on your finger. For reference, I wear a 5.25 and I have a graduate band which is 3.5mm at the top -- it still looks delicate on my hand for sure. Another consideration is the length from your first knuckle to your hand (see the black line on my pic, I don't know what this area is called, lol)...some people have short digits so their real estate for e-ring AND wedding band is limited. Try to take into consideration how thick your total set will be. Hopefully my post makes sense, I'm not feeling very awake/smart right now!

 

[TracyBear]

...the length from your first knuckle to your hand (see the black line on my pic, I don't know what this area is called, lol)...some people have short digits so their real estate for e-ring AND wedding band is limited.

Good point! That specific section of bones on your finger are called proximal phalanges, so the length of her PP is what you're referring to. I don't think anyone outside of rheumatology really uses these terms though.

 

[LibbyLA]

New PS question when discussing ring widths: "How long is the proximal phalange of your ring finger?"

Response: "Say WHAT????"

liz

 

[Ms_Lovely]

Hi Ms_Lovely

I'm not CAD expert but I LOVE the idea of the ribbon setting - it's so cool and unique.

Sounds like you're already considering getting a wider shank, I think that's a really good idea. 2mm is really thin (sturdy but thin) and it could get lost on your finger. For reference, I wear a 5.25 and I have a graduate band which is 3.5mm at the top -- it still looks delicate on my hand for sure. Another consideration is the length from your first knuckle to your hand (see the black line on my pic, I don't know what this area is called, lol)...some people have short digits so their real estate for e-ring AND wedding band is limited. Try to take into consideration how thick your total set will be. Hopefully my post makes sense, I'm not feeling very awake/smart right now!

The Tiffany site doesn't give the specs on the Ribbon ring but they picture the E-ring with a 2.5 mm eternity band and a 3.0mm band?

 

[CharmyPoo]

I was the one that recommended David Klass. I think his finish product is good based on everything I have seen. I am not worried anymore! I guess his cad just doesn't look good but I am confident the finish product is.

 

[SMC]

The original ring does look like it matches best with a 2.5mm band. Can you check with David Klass to see what the price difference is if he makes it 2.5mm and uses bigger melee? Charmy, do you have any suggestions on how big the melee should be?

 

[yssie]

The exact measurements of the various elements of your ring will be smaller than in the CAD because polishing removes some metal - you may be looking at a 1.8-1.9mm shank IRL. So if a 2.0mm shank is really, really, really important to you for some reason, discuss that with your vendor.

In the same way the ribbon itself will be thinner, there will be more open space between the bottom of the ribbon and the top of the shank (so the ribbon will appear to float "higher" off the shank), etc... I would STRONGLY advise you not to put too much emphasis on the minutiae of CAD proportions. Your vendor is the person who knows the tools best, let him/her determine the tiny details like melee size.

I would third (fourth?) going with a thicker shank and would request a "comfort fit" - where the interior of the band is very rounded.

New PS question when discussing ring widths: "How long is the proximal phalange of your ring finger?"

Response: "Say WHAT????"

liz

:bigmsile:

 

[Ms_Lovely]

The exact measurements of the various elements of your ring will be smaller than in the CAD because polishing removes some metal - you may be looking at a 1.8-1.9mm shank IRL. So if a 2.0mm shank is really, really, really important to you for some reason, discuss that with your vendor.

In the same way the ribbon itself will be thinner, there will be more open space between the bottom of the ribbon and the top of the shank (so the ribbon will appear to float "higher" off the shank), etc... I would STRONGLY advise you not to put too much emphasis on the minutiae of CAD proportions. Your vendor is the person who knows the tools best, let him/her determine the tiny details like melee size.

I would third (fourth?) going with a thicker shank and would request a "comfort fit" - where the interior of the band is very rounded.

New PS question when discussing ring widths: "How long is the proximal phalange of your ring finger?"

Response: "Say WHAT????"

liz

:bigmsile:

Thank you! I'm going to ask him to widen the shank and make it comfort fit and see what he does with the melee in the next design.

 

[Ms_Lovely]

The original ring does look like it matches best with a 2.5mm band. Can you check with David Klass to see what the price difference is if he makes it 2.5mm and uses bigger melee? Charmy, do you have any suggestions on how big the melee should be?

I thought it looked like the 2.5 as well, but the 3mm looks very close too.

 

[CharmyPoo]

I completely forgot the ring was channel set! How many mm is your diamond? I want to play around in photoshop.

 

[SMC]

I completely forgot the ring was channel set! How many mm is your diamond? I want to play around in photoshop.

She bought ForteKitty's stone: http://diamondbistro.com/category/197/Necklaces-and-Pendants/listings/33657/On-Hold-077ct-FG-I1-Rb-diamond-pendant-14k.html - it's 5.78-5.79mm, 0.77cts

 

[Ms_Lovely]

The original ring does look like it matches best with a 2.5mm band. Can you check with David Klass to see what the price difference is if he makes it 2.5mm and uses bigger melee? Charmy, do you have any suggestions on how big the melee should be?

He said he'll revise the design Monday. He didn't mention a price increase?

 

[Ms_Lovely]

I completely forgot the ring was channel set! How many mm is your diamond? I want to play around in photoshop.

That's great! I can't wait to see what you come up with.

 

[CharmyPoo]

I played around with photoshop. The image is scaled to represent a 5.7 mm diamond and the left shank is 2 mm and right shank is 3 mm.