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Natural Diamonds - New Campaign - Good timing or too little too late?

freddyboston said:
Yes...Ancient Diamonds have Trigons.....
and souls
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So when a diamond is cut, is the soul harmed? Are lab grown souls really souls and if they are, does that make the people growing the diamonds gods?
 
LGD are more like soulless knock offs made by false gods in factories and sold on a foundation of deception and lies.....

There are thousands of Well Cut Honest Ancient Naturals in all budgets from Warm Colors to small colorless....
 
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Matata said:
So when a diamond is cut, is the soul harmed? Are lab grown souls really souls and if they are, does that make the people growing the diamonds gods?
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DejaWiz said:
But you've already been given a factual response numerous times in numerous threads.
Is there a different way that the same answer needs to be worded which will provide you full appeasement?
I'm genuinely confused why you continue this crusade for an answer that has already been given to not only you, but the entire world:


From a different GIA article...the wording that you're looking for is right there: three rough diamonds each from a different origin:

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This, DejaWiz, is what I was trying to get to the bottom of, but I’ve lost interest. Freddyboston says “LGD are more like soulless knock offs made by false gods in factories and sold on a foundation of deception and lies.....”. And really, the only thing I was trying to understand is if an LGD is not in fact, a diamond, and is in fact a knock off, then what IS it? Does it have a name? Because I guess “diamond” is not what an LGD is. I never questioned that there weren’t differences. I questioned if LGD is not an actual diamond, then WHAT is it?
 
Chelsea Palmer said:
No, DejaWiz, I’m good, thanks.
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Excellent, glad that you found peace about it, Chelsea Palmer - your fantastic and perfectly synthesized human grown diamond is perfect: clean HPHT material, amazing cut precision, GIA graded with the AGS addendum showing ASET imaging - there was a lot of painstaking talent and pure soul poured into growing, cutting, and polishing your diamond...and it will soon truly be a treasure now that GIA will be dumbing themselves down on their upcoming lacking approach to LGD grading.
 
DejaWiz said:
Excellent, glad that you found peace about it, Chelsea Palmer - your fantastic and perfectly synthesized human grown diamond is perfect: clean HPHT material, amazing cut precision, GIA graded with the AGS addendum showing ASET imaging - there was a lot of painstaking talent and pure soul poured into growing, cutting, and polishing your diamond...and it will soon truly be a treasure now that GIA will be dumbing themselves down on their upcoming lacking approach to LGD grading.
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To be clear, I was never not at peace with my…my…well, I don’t know what to call it any longer. I freaking LOVE it, even though I don’t what “it” is
 
freddyboston said:
example...why buy a big bluffy worthless lab when you can get a very nice Natural K 1.5 ct w/ Med BL ? @ $4,400

(maybe LGD buyers haven't seen current pricing on the Naturals or they are only comparing to Natural D VVS+ ??)

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In the above sample it is still above my budget. I haven't checked into the pricing of non premium cut .5ct diamonds such as WF ACA, but the Jannpaul Decagon in the .4 to .5 is $2600 to $3800. I assume if the cut ends up at .4 would be the lower price and the .5 would be the higher price.Even the $2600. I suppose if it came put on the lower end I could do it, but I really would like at least a 1ct premium cut which is most definitely not in my budget.

I suppose I could make myself downsize since the halo she really liked only had a .3ct centerstone. I'm still going to explore options with an online appointment with JP tomorrow night, but my 3 month old son has been expose to Whooping Cough by his 1 year old cousin. If he catches it whatever money I have for an engagement ring becomes secondary to taking care of him. If you all are into prayer, I ask for it for my son Arthur James to avoid getting it., and his cousin and family really need it. Dragon is about 16 months old and is in the hospital ICU on a ventilator. According to my SO, the doctor say its 50/50 for him. :cry2:
 
Matata said:
Ooooh, the natural diamond has what looks like alien hieroglyphs on the upper part and what looks like a 6-fingered hand pointing to a cloud on the lower. Proof that aliens exist!!

Pie anyone?
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The hieroglyphs are called Trigons - they only grow on the octahedral faces (or are disolved on thos faces)
 
maryjane04 said:
It's a lab/synthetic diamond. Like how we explained synthetic gemstones. If you drop the prefix then it becomes misleading.
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So a diamond grown in a lab is a lab-grown diamond. Or a synthetic diamond. Or a man-made diamond. A poster referred to LGDs as knockoffs and that’s where I was confused. Wasn’t sure how something called a diamond could be a knock-off of a diamond.
 
Chelsea Palmer said:
So a diamond grown in a lab is a lab-grown diamond. Or a synthetic diamond. Or a man-made diamond. A poster referred to LGDs as knockoffs and that’s where I was confused. Wasn’t sure how something called a diamond could be a knock-off of a diamond.
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So we have confirmed a lab-grown diamond is a diamond.

The second part is about provenance. It matters to some and doesn't matter to others. No matter what examples we give it won't satisfy you. Just enjoy what you have and try not to defend it here.
 
DejaWiz said:
But you've already been given a factual response numerous times in numerous threads.
Is there a different way that the same answer needs to be worded which will provide you full appeasement?
I'm genuinely confused why you continue this crusade for an answer that has already been given to not only you, but the entire world:


From a different GIA article...the wording that you're looking for is right there: three rough diamonds each from a different origin:

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This is a very interesting picture, I had not seen synthetic rough before. All three have been carved/cut in some way already I guess. This image minimizes the apparent differences in a way that feels intentional. I'd be curious to see all three in their "rough rough" forms right out of the vat/ground.
 
maryjane04 said:
So we have confirmed a lab-grown diamond is a diamond.

The second part is about provenance. It matters to some and doesn't matter to others. No matter what examples we give it won't satisfy you. Just enjoy what you have and try not to defend it here.
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Your first sentence is explanatory. That’s what I was looking for. I never asked about provenance. I never asked about what matters to whom. I never asked for examples. I asked what an LGD is, if it’s not in fact a diamond (despite the “D” in LGD meaning diamond).
 
Dreamer_D said:
This is a very interesting picture, I had not seen synthetic rough before. All three have been carved/cut in some way already I guess. This image minimizes the apparent differences in a way that feels intentional. I'd be curious to see all three in their "rough rough" forms right out of the vat/ground.
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no the Natural is Untouched - ( example: one in it's kimberlite host rock)

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Diamond in kimberlite

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freddyboston said:
example...why buy a big bluffy worthless lab when you can get a very nice Natural K 1.5 ct w/ Med BL ? @ $4,400

(maybe LGD buyers haven't seen current pricing on the Naturals or they are only comparing to Natural D VVS+ ??)

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Freddy, you can dismiss diamonds created by the ingenuity of mankind as "fluffy" and those as grubbed from the earth and scarring the earth terribly, as important. Most of us with common sense aren't buying that spiel. My diamonds are natural and if you would buy them back from me at a price close to what we paid, I'm all in. And then I'll go buy the diamonds created by the ingenuity of mankind to fill the void.

As a mother in the sixties, to me it's like trying to convince me to use cotton gauze diapers again to rinse out in the toilet vs the disposable diapers that are readily available in today's child raising. It won't happen and I'll gladly use the money saved buying a beautiful mankind created diamond vs that grubbed from the earth and the resultant scarring. I would have used the thousands saved in the purchase of created diamonds to travel far and wide.

When it comes down to it, it is all just "stuff".
 
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elle_chris said:
Crazy how people care so much what others spend their money on or their views. It almost feels political
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Nah, whether and where people buy a product that is valuable for supercomputing, requires major investment in reliable energy, boosts economic success, spurs technological innovation, and promotes the education and development of a tech-savvy workforce has NOTHING to do with politics and would never warrant the use of online bots.
 
maybe I'm a Dinosaur... I just can't take the "leap" to Labs...
I'm also immune to Hypnosis so maybe there's a correlation ?
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Dreamer_D said:
This is a very interesting picture, I had not seen synthetic rough before. All three have been carved/cut in some way already I guess. This image minimizes the apparent differences in a way that feels intentional. I'd be curious to see all three in their "rough rough" forms right out of the vat/ground.
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The CVD is in the “rough rough” form.
 
Sunrises Sunsets said:
Freddy, you can dismiss diamonds created by the ingenuity of mankind as "fluffy" and those as grubbed from the earth and scarring the earth terribly, as important. Most of us with common sense aren't buying that spiel. My diamonds are natural and if you would buy them back from me at a price close to what we paid, I'm all in. And then I'll go buy the diamonds created by the ingenuity of mankind to fill the void.

As a mother in the sixties, to me it's like trying to convince me to use cotton gauze diapers again to rinse out in the toilet vs the disposable diapers that are readily available in today's child raising. It won't happen and I'll gladly use the money saved buying a beautiful mankind created diamond vs that grubbed from the earth and the resultant scarring. I would have used the thousands saved in the purchase of created diamonds to travel far and wide.

When it comes down to it, it is all just "stuff".
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Sunrises Sunsets, I would do the EXACT SAME THING! Without a bit of hesitation. If I could sell all the earth-extracted diamond jewelry I have for what I paid, or close to it, I would do it immediately, and replace everything with LGDs. And then I would renovate my entire house with the difference.
 
freddyboston said:
maybe I'm a Dinosaur... I just can't take the "leap" to Labs...
I'm also immune to Hypnosis so maybe there's a correlation ?
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Then don’t take the leap to labs.
 
diverg said:
In the above sample it is still above my budget. I haven't checked into the pricing of non premium cut .5ct diamonds such as WF ACA, but the Jannpaul Decagon in the .4 to .5 is $2600 to $3800. I assume if the cut ends up at .4 would be the lower price and the .5 would be the higher price.Even the $2600. I suppose if it came put on the lower end I could do it, but I really would like at least a 1ct premium cut which is most definitely not in my budget.

I suppose I could make myself downsize since the halo she really liked only had a .3ct centerstone. I'm still going to explore options with an online appointment with JP tomorrow night, but my 3 month old son has been expose to Whooping Cough by his 1 year old cousin. If he catches it whatever money I have for an engagement ring becomes secondary to taking care of him. If you all are into prayer, I ask for it for my son Arthur James to avoid getting it., and his cousin and family really need it. Dragon is about 16 months old and is in the hospital ICU on a ventilator. According to my SO, the doctor say its 50/50 for him. :cry2:
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I hope your nephew recovers and I hope your son remains healthy.
 
0-0-0 said:
The CVD is in the “rough rough” form.
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Yes and no. From the video, this is the rough form straight out of n the machine.

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Very synthetic looking and kind of futuristic looking, very techy in its original form, like boules of synthetic sapphire in that respect.

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I think in the original image there has been an effort to romance the synthetic material and minimize differences from the natural. Which is an interesting move from a marketing and psychological perspective IMO.
 
FYI CVD rough can be grown in different arrangements depending on the machine/recipe.

Individually like this
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Or in even bigger plates like this
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I seriously doubt GIA is putting any effort to romance the material.
 
0-0-0 said:
FYI CVD rough can be grown in different arrangements depending on the machine/recipe.

Individually like this
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Or in even bigger plates like this
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I seriously doubt GIA is putting any effort to romance the material.
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Interesting!
 
Can we predict that the ultimate luxury will be rough EGD jewellery to prove the earth provenance? :)
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I have a hunch colorless Blue Whites might gain (regain) popularity too.... Anything to differentiate from Labs...
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Can someone explain the history of these “blue white” diamonds? The first time I heard this term was from my grandma. We have a family ring that she talked about being a perfect blue white. It’s an OEC D/IF and I think is over 100 years old at this point. I gathered it was popular from what she said but I wish I knew more.
 
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