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PussInBoots

PussInBoots

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Hello, all! I have been browsing PriceScope for several weeks now and have been so impressed by all the knowledge everyone here seems to possess about diamonds.

I am preparing to propose to my girlfriend and have been looking around for a pear-shaped diamond. My maximum total budget, including the setting, is about $25K - I'd really like to keep it all under $20K, if possible. Thus, I've been looking for stones in the range of ~$18K, with a bit of flexibility.

I'm valuing cut first and foremost, as I think my girlfriend is most impressed by diamonds that really sparkle. Size-wise, I'm looking for 2+ carats, and basically as large as my budget allows. (My girlfriend often remarks on how big her family's and friends' diamonds are...) Ideally, I'd like to keep the color at G or better; when we were looking at engagement rings together in B&M stores, I think she felt the H/I stones were a bit warm for her taste. For clarity, my only real requirement is that there aren't any inclusions sufficiently obvious so as to irk me whenever I look at her ring. I also know that my girlfriend prefers pears with a smaller length/width ratio - I showed her a picture of 1.5, 1.66, and 1.75, and she said she felt the 1.75 was too skinny. She might also be interested in stones with a ratio of less than 1.5; I'm not sure.

In the time that I've been looking, I've glanced at the inventories of all the PriceScope featured sponsors, but, other than limiting my results to those that fall within the range of the specifications given at the PriceScope Pear Cut Diamond page, I'm not sure what my next step should be, as there seem to be many options available. Are there certain vendors that are preferred for pears, and/or does anyone have recommendations of specific stones that match my desired characteristics? I'm also happy to patronize a B&M store in the SF bay area. I've already been to a few, but only one followed up on my request to see some pears. He brought in a stone that I'm convinced is the same one listed here, because the lab, weight, color, clarity, table, depth, length, and width are all exactly the same (although the price he quoted me was several thousand dollars more!).

Thanks in advance for any assistance you can offer!
 
Just going to a website and looking for one is going to be a little heard at the size you are looking foe. Contact good old gold. Tell them you want a 18k lead g or above that's eye clean (doesn't really matter the clarity after that, you don't wanna pay for high clarity if you can't even appreciate it, you know?). They will pull some for you. Its really the best option.

Now if size is her main concern then a pear is great. They can fave up huge! If sparkle is her main concern, keep in mind they dont have near the sparkle of a round. So of she asked for a pear, I'd go this route, but if she hasn't given you shape, I think I'd consider maybe a old round cute? They are a little more work finding but you can get a nice large old cut second hand.
 
I would suggest searching for GIA instead of EGL, if it were me, as you mentioned she is colour sensitive. EGL is soft on colour by (often) 2-3 grades. Depends which lab. Have you searched James Allen? BGD? You can also contact them to see what they could find for you w your specs
 
OP, it seems your SO is set on a pear, since that's what you guys have been looking at together. But when seeing stones in B&M stores, you should keep in mind that most of the stones they show you are EGL graded. And like Enerchi said, they are soft on their grading scale. So when she said that an H/I was too warm, she may have actually been looking at a lower color. I would keep an open mind and maybe try out a GIA H/I color. It will save you a lot of money from the G and up colors. And if the GIA H/I is too warm, then you know to stay in the higher colors.

Oh and Niel, there's an edit button for typos.
Plus, this was all typed on my iPhone and no typos. Interesting!
 
Thanks YT you're always so nice and helpful. But it is too late to edit, and I actually use a galaxy, which is notorious for keyboard issues. But glad you're always johnny on the spot with my typos :lol:

And I have an H GIA pear and I can see color. So I actually think G or above is a good idea.
 
if you are valuing cut first, make sure you do some research into bowties and the effects they can have on a pear.

ASETs would be useful tools to help if you don't know what to look out for in a pear's brilliance physically.
 
Thanks for the input! Niel - she definitely wants a pear. I realize that she's probably sacrificing a bit of optics for the shape, but she prefers the look of the pear (albeit a somewhat fatter one). Also, I too have a galaxy and I can confirm that the typing experience leaves a lot to be desired :lol:

Enerchi and YT - you raise a good point about the color, as I'm pretty sure that the H/I stones we looked at were indeed EGL certified. My SO lives right by a Tiffany, though, so I can ask her to stop in there and see what she thinks of the warmer stones. Another thing I should've mentioned is that she's living in NY (LI, specifically), so she could also potentially see some stones in person if anyone has some B&M recommendations for there, although I'd prefer that she not see the actual diamond that I buy before I propose.

Niel and Enerchi - I've looked at GOG, BGM, and JA, and none of them have a particularly large selection of pears that meet my criteria. GOG has one, BGM doesn't have any, and JA has one that looks eye-clean, but it has H color. Is it still worthwhile to contact these vendors and see if they could pull some diamonds for me that aren't listed on their online inventories? There are a few featured vendors that have a handful or more stones listed that seem like they could work: USA Certed, Adiamor, BN, ERD, ID, since1910, and Solomon Brothers. Does anyone have any experience with these vendors, especially with pears? Should I just start contacting them to ask for pictures and then ask the forum for feedback once I have some images?

diamondloveaffair - great point. Is it worthwhile to buy an ASET for myself so that if I have some diamonds shipped to me I could look at them that way, or should I expect that the vendors will be able to provide me with ASET images upon request?

Thanks so much!
 
If you are in Long Island area, then I'd definitely be in touch w Jonathan at GOG and see what they can find for you w your specs in mind. And they can find the perfect setting too, so you can do it all in one location! Easy peasy! Good luck!
 
have you checked out the jewelry center on Brannan in downtown SF? there are a couple B&M stores there that might be able to pull some stones with the specs that you are looking for...that way you can see in person the differences between a G and a H and also the differences between size and size ratios

if you do go there, I'd recommend Derco (store) and speak with John (he is a very helpful and no pressure type of guy)

most of the stores there will have GIA certified stones (not EGL)
 
I have a pear, so I understand the want for that shape. I ended up switching to a round because of the optics though, so I just wanted to bring it up. It was a hard switch though, because i L :love: VE the shape! And I love a chubby pear too, they are my favorite!

GOG is not going to have much in your criteria right now, but if you contact them, they find you stones in your budget and specs. I do think, even GIA graded, staying G or above is a smart move. Ive heard Jon at GOG has told people on here that to people too, that for those types of fancies is a good idea. From what Ive seen Im sure you can get a nice size 2ct + at G+ thats eye clean.

I do think if she was interested in yellows, they would be a good idea too. Adds a bit of interest to make up for the somewhat lower optics. And i think in a delicate halo it would be reminiscent of tiffanys, sense i know you said you liked that.
 
Enerchi|1367181518|3436224 said:
Just a thought....

http://www.diamondsbylauren.com/index.php/jewelry/yellow-diamond-ring-201ct-fancy-yellow-si1-pear-shape-gia-halo-ring-r5045.... 2.01 ct, $23K, 11x6 mm size. And unique in a gorgeous yellow!! But, she needs to like yellow diamonds ;)) It's beautiful and in budget, if she does!
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See, I love that. I'm not sure if that one is for you, might be too long, but I'm sure they could make you this ring with another yellow pear they pull for you that's maybe a bit more chubby, if that one isn't quite right. . I think it would be very Tiffany to me.
 
Wow all those yellow diamonds are really pretty! I don't think it's particularly my SO's taste, though...

OMG_AMG - Thanks for the recommendation! I'll definitely try to check out Derco.

Enerchi and Niel - I'll give GOG a call and see what they can do for me. I might not be able to see the rings in person, though, since I'm not sure how I feel about my girlfriend seeing the finished product before I pop the question, and she's the one who's in LI (I'm in SF bay).

Thanks everyone, this is all really helpful! Should I try contact BGD or JA, too, and/or any other vendors, or do you think GOG is my best bet? And is there anything else I should be asking for other than pictures and ASET images (and certificates)?

Also, I've noticed that some of the links are to diamonds with specifications outside of the ideal range for pears given here - would I be sacrificing a lot in terms of brilliance by venturing outside that range, or will the differences be slight? I'm wondering whether I should specify table/depth values to GOG as given on that page, or just let their SAs use their judgment.
 
You can just give your parameters to Good Old Gold, they can select a few, and she can go look at the loose diamonds.
 
JulieN|1367187655|3436277 said:
You can just give your parameters to Good Old Gold, they can select a few, and she can go look at the loose diamonds.
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Picking a pear is a little more of an art than a science, like, say, a round would be.

There's parameters but you can't judge by the numbers alone. Good old gold is great at picking fancy cuts. And they do all sorts if tests to make sure they are good performers. I would be very confident in letting them pick out a pear for me. Like Julie said, tell them your budget and desired specs, and they will find you something beautiful.

Bah, she doesn't like yellow. Rats. Well get her what she likes, but I thought it was worth running by to see if she did or not. I think it would make a great impact, which sounds like something she would enjoy. Either way though it'll be lovely.

How will you be setting it?
 
Mayk that is a breathtaking gorgous pear . I think she is size sensitive and looking closer to 2 carats...
 
Wow Niel I want that one I want a colored stone sooo badly.......and its 3 carats yeah I'd buy it
 
heididdl|1367194465|3436334 said:
Wow Niel I want that one I want a colored stone sooo badly.......and its 3 carats yeah I'd buy it
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Right! Cup that and put it in a delicate halo (Sk or Vc) and it would be just about the most stunning pear I've ever seen
 
Love it
 
heididdl|1367194654|3436338 said:
Love it
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Haha sorry OP. We can tend to get carried away. If she doesn't like yellow than just ignore us.

Can't wait to see what GOG finds you.
 
:D don't worry I'm enjoying seeing all these great stones and hearing all these interesting ideas! I actually just spoke to her about it, and, to my surprise, she seemed open to the possibility of a yellow center stone! I'll show her your suggestions later and let you know what she says.

Niel and JulieN - thanks for the GOG recommendation! I'm emailing them right now and I'll keep you up-to-date with their responses.

Niel - setting-wise, I'm not totally decided. I might end up doing something custom because I think she and I both like the idea of her having a setting made especially for her. She's given me a few ideas and I'll be sure to post them after things have progressed a bit more with the center stone. It'll probably end up being something similar to this Tacori, or maybe this one (or I might actually just get one of those two).

And heididdl - you're right about the size - I posed the idea of maybe having a somewhat smaller stone in a halo, and while she didn't flat out reject the notion, she didn't seem particularly enthusiastic about it either, but maybe I'll have her visit GOG in person and try on some halos to see if she changes her mind :)
 
we can all understand the want for a large stone ;) I think a large stone PLUS a halo would be a a neat idea if it was done well.

Heres Phoenix's beautiful 3.5 ct pear. and anthenaworth's FLY 1 ct

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I am going to throw another idea out there. Amethyste was selling her super gorgeous pear last year - I am not sure if she is still selling it or not but doesn't hurt to reach out. It's not a high color but look at how beautiful a "yellow" looks. It was within your budget.

[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/my-5-13ct-lemony-pear-fect-diamond.118596/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/my-5-13ct-lemony-pear-fect-diamond.118596/[/URL]
[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/lemonys-re-set-from-halo-to-3-stone.142105/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/lemonys-re-set-from-halo-to-3-stone.142105/[/URL]

ETA: Just found out it was sold.
 
Oh look st this little chubby cutie!
http://www.fancydiamonds.net/view_diamonds/5403.htm


I know its a little more than your budget, but I'd see if they could come down. Doesn't hurt to ask, and they were having a sale on yellows, I dont know why this is not included, maybe ask them if they could take the price down a bit?
 
Here are some on JA:

The BEST by far is the D SI1...the faceting is the absolute best IMO, unless you can find a fat chunky faceted antique cut pear:

If you want to cut the budget my next 2 favs are the G VS2 & E SI2 for the facet pattern. Pears tend to hide inclusions well like the Round Brilliants.
http://www.jamesallen.com/#!/loose-diamonds/pear-cut/2.00-carat-d-color-si1-clarity-sku-145416

I would get the ASET images on these 3:

http://www.jamesallen.com/#!/loose-diamonds/pear-shaped//CaratFrom:1.90|CaratTo:10.00|PriceFrom:400|PriceTo:999000|Sort:Carat%20asc,%20DefaultOrder|TabSelected:3|ps:15||DiamondID:179057,48154,145416,186331

http://www.jamesallen.com/#!/loose-diamonds/pear-shaped//CaratFrom:1.90|CaratTo:10.00|PriceFrom:400|PriceTo:999000|Sort:Carat%20asc,%20DefaultOrder|TabSelected:3|ps:15||DiamondID:179057,48154,205430,145416,35996,186331,31380,131052,157142,178143
 
Well if your FI wants to have an eyefull and I mean an eyefull of fancy pears, haver her go to Graf on Madison Ave, in NYC. I have never seen so many fancy yellow stones in one location and they are big! On second thought, maybe you should not tell her about Graf, because you will have to expand your budget - LOL.
 
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