So i personally as a consumer would not take that into account when comparing MM to lab grown
What do you mean " comparing MM to lab grown" please? MM stands for man made?
So i personally as a consumer would not take that into account when comparing MM to lab grown
What do you mean " comparing MM to lab grown" please? MM stands for man made?
Ok, agreed!That the environmental impacts is not a deciding factor in choosing man made.
What do you mean " comparing MM to lab grown" please? MM stands for man made?
Well yes i realise its not perfect
To be perfectly honest i don't care about being carbon natural
Ive done plenty of other things throught out my life to compensate like not have children and take clean energy public transport or walk to work
So i personally as a consumer would not take that into account when comparing MM to lab grown
Fare wages and safe working conditions are another matter
Sorry my mistake
I was watching something big and important on tv and it had my attention
i ment natural from the ground
Yea! The live broadcasts on tv right now is much much more important and meaningful to the world than those "echo friendly" mmd marketing gimmicks!
1. Potentially yes I could see that as an issue, which is why the recent increase of consumer interest and thus new companies in the lab diamond market is actually a bit of a deterrent for me. Just a few years ago, it seemed that most lab diamonds sold in the American jewelry market were nearly by default made in the USA. It was certainly so when I got engaged with a lab diamond in 2007. That’s obviously no longer the case.
2. While true, shopping pre-owned has less impact than shopping for a new diamond on incentivizing bad actors.
Re Devils advocate— My husband and I met while collaborating on combatting African arms trafficking, he was born and raised in Africa, and we got engaged shortly after the Di Caprio movie. 15 years later we still have careers in international relations and each spend much of our time living and working in places where humans are often not treated as such. I might take the severity of conflict diamonds a little more personally than some in the “20%” to which you refer. However I know I’m not alone.
Figures of rough MMD 2019:
The estimated total production of MMD was about 7.5 million carats in their rough form in 2019. Total 66% of which was produced in China due to cheap production cost. Did those “MMD factories of the world” follow the environment protection recommendations or did they use green energy to made diamonds? No carbon food print? Make MMD from the air? Who knows?
India produced about more than 20% of rough MMD in 2009. How about MMD “made in the USA” including Light Box and the Diamond Foundry? It shared about 8%.
The total production of MMD in 2020 is projected around 10 million carats in rough form in which “made in China” will certainly increase the shares and drop the price!
Do you have a link to that table?
I've read Pricescope (mostly lurked) for years and have long-regarded it as a rare internet forum where civility reigns. I think the uncharacteristically emotional exchanges here exemplify how much diamonds tap into our values, and generational, cultural, and socio-economic differences. And honestly, I observe a level of intellectual dishonesty/cognitive dissonance on both sides that I think is triggering to those on the other side.
Which, why are there even two sides? That is a false dichotomy. I own natural diamonds and lab diamonds. There is clearly a market for both of these items, often times with the same individuals. Currently the market values natural diamonds more, hence the higher price point. In some situations, having a natural diamond was worth the higher price for me (e.g. my engagement ring). In other situations, it wasn't (e.g. earrings I bought for my wedding).
There is also a semantics issue - the word "fake" is super triggering, but that doesn't mean it's necessarily inaccurate when referring to MMD. MMD wouldn't be popular unless natural diamonds were popular first. Clearly, there is some contingent of MMD owners hoping to pass them off as natural. And even though chemically they are the same as natural diamonds (right?) their history is part of what they are or 1) GIA wouldn't grade them differently, 2) the market wouldn't price them differently. Maybe this distinction will change over time, but I think that the widespread presumption is that when you say 'diamond' people assume natural diamond. I think it's intellectually dishonest to say that you calling your MMD a "diamond" is 100% about accuracy without acknowledging that most people will assume it is natural, and maybe, deep down, for some people, that is what they want.
I also think there is some cognitive dissonance with claiming that you PREFER MMD. Full stop. Your preferences are contextual. Would you really PREFER MMD if the price was the same, or even more than a natural diamond? That's fine if your answer is the same. But I think it's this dissonance that sticks in my craw a little when people rage about MMD, and I think it may be what bugs others. And listen, I own MMD! For me, in certain contexts, they are worth owning. And I could not care less about what works for other people or what is worth it to them.
That said, obviously there is snobbery around any status symbol and diamonds are no different. Some people that own natural diamonds are judgmental snobs who would find me tacky for buying MMD for my wedding earrings. Some people would call them "fakes." Maybe semantically they are, maybe they're not. Oh well. Who cares. Paying one third the price for them was worth it for me and that's all I care about. (As others have pointed out, even those with limited resources wear costume jewelry, eat at McDonald's occasionally, haha.) There's cognitive dissonance on this side too, btw. Some people would insist that MMD owners identify them as such for superficial reasons, because they feel that MMD passing for natural diamonds waters down the value of the latter, not for pure accuracy as they claim. (Nala not picking on you at all, I agree with a lot of what you've said and I don't think this applies to you.)
So, yeah. I like both, but I would pay more for natural. If that applies to you, then you like both too, just for different situations. My two unsolicited cents!