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legallyspoiled

legallyspoiled

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. Report: AGS
. Shape: Round
. Carat: 1.301
. Depth %: 61.3
. Table %: 55.7
. Crown Angle: 34.9
. Crown %: 15.5
. Pavilion Angle: 40.9
. Pavilion %: 43.2
. Girdle: Thin to Medium Faceted
. Measurements: 7.03-7.07X4.32
. Light Performance: 0
. Polish: Ideal
. Symmetry: Ideal
. Culet: Pointed
. Fluorescence: Negligible

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ideal scope image

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hearts image

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aset image

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Let me add on that I physically viewed the actual stone on Friday and it was super eye-clean and was very brilliant. The intrusions were nearly as visible using the loupe as they are in the photograph. Also, the stone faces up very very white. Next to other stones, I could not pick out this K unless they were all face down.

I am ready to hopefully pull the trigger on this as soon as possible. Your thoughts and opinions are appreciated...as always!
 
Oops. That was a typo. I meant to say the inclusions were NOT....
 
Is this diamond sold as an ACA or Expert Selection? The idealscope and ASET images are showing slight leakage under the table area but that might have a negligible impact in real life viewing. As you have viewed it in person and it compared favourably to others you have seen then its worth consideration for purchase, what did WF say about the images and the diamond itself?
 
It is sold as a ACA Hearts and Arrows Super Ideal Round Cut Diamond.

I''m sorry. What in particular do you want to know what they said about it?
 
Date: 4/5/2010 3:35:57 PM
Author: legallyspoiled
It is sold as a ACA Hearts and Arrows Super Ideal Round Cut Diamond.

I'm sorry. What in particular do you want to know what they said about it?
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I am curious due to the slight leakage shown in the images, its unusual in an ACA. Thats why I was wondering if it was intended to be an ACA but in the end they decided to give it an Expert Selection title instead as this sometimes happens, ask WF if this was the case.
 
WF confirmed that it is an ACA. They asked what leakage I have an issue with it and offered to discuss it with me....but I have no idea what is leaking where and why? Honestly, in person...it performed well to my novice eyes.
 
Under the table the IS is a little darker than might be ideal. That is the place where there might be leakage. It is slight, and since you have seen the stone and love it, that certainly trumps our opinions when we are talking about such well cut diamonds. Ask them about leakage under the table. It might just be a bad Is image.

I want to make a comment about K color, just so that you are knowing what you are going for. I have owned a J, a K, and now a G. My K was about the size of this one you are considering. The tint does not show up face up, it is true, and not in daylight and higher lighting conditions. Where you will see the tint is at slight tilt angles... i.e. the angle you view the ring on your finger
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In office lighting. In your car particularly. I have nothing against K color, but I think you need to be honest and know you *will* see tint in real life viewing conditions at some lighing environments.Maybe it won't bother you or you will nt care! Good! I have seen pics and vids of this stone and it is a looker indeed. But a K is still a K, and you need to really be ok with that. I am glad you have seen it is person for sure! I just worry because you did not go out seeking a lower colored stone and living with a diamond is a lot different than looking at it loose in a few lighting environments.
 
Dreamer,
Thank you! Thank you! Thank you for pointing that out!

True, it is very unlikely that I would have considered this stone if I was purchasing it virtually because of it''s color grade! And I do know exactly what you are talking about in regards to viewing the diamond from the size. That is one of the perks of being able to physically see them in person. I wasn''t sensitive to it''s slightly warm color at all when I was viewing it. (I hope I just wasn''t being overzealous at finally seeing some well cut diamonds in person!) My FF who IS sensitive to color picked up on it a slight bit but he wasn''t put off or offended by the color either. (I hope he wasn''t just saying that because I was fine with it.)

Thanks so much for the reality check! That is what I love about Pricescope. But the good news that I can always trade ''er in for a better model down the line if I am unhappy!

Also, there is a video? Where?! I wanna see too, lol.
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Date: 4/5/2010 6:17:34 PM
Author: dreamer_d

Under the table the IS is a little darker than might be ideal. That is the place where there might be leakage. It is slight, and since you have seen the stone and love it, that certainly trumps our opinions when we are talking about such well cut diamonds. Ask them about leakage under the table. It might just be a bad Is image.
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Exactly, its unusual to see this in an ACA so thats why I suggested you check with WF, its possible it might be the image or it could be due to the slightly steeper crown and pavilion angle range for this particular diamond, but this leakage might not be visible in real life, if it doesn''t bother you then thats fine. If I were buying it I would be questioning the images too as both ASET and IS show this darkening under the table which makes me think it could be the diamond tather than the images. But its still an excellent stone.
 
I am still waiting to hear back from WF regarding the leakage. Although, I think that regardless of what they say...we are going to go with this stone. It performed just as well next to J/VS1s. I asked my FF again about the color and clarity last night which he is much more sensitive to than I am. He got kind of grumpy and said that the diamond looked just as white as the rest and to stop asking him!! (Note: He thinks that I am obsessing over this entire process. I just think that I am doing my due diligence!)
 
Oops! And I wanted to say thanks for all of your advice, tips, and opinions along the way! I don''t even want to imagine what piece of crap I would have ended up with if I had not found Pricescope and all of it''s wonderful contributors and members.
 
Date: 4/6/2010 10:31:30 AM
Author: legallyspoiled
I am still waiting to hear back from WF regarding the leakage. Although, I think that regardless of what they say...we are going to go with this stone. It performed just as well next to J/VS1s. I asked my FF again about the color and clarity last night which he is much more sensitive to than I am. He got kind of grumpy and said that the diamond looked just as white as the rest and to stop asking him!! (Note: He thinks that I am obsessing over this entire process. I just think that I am doing my due diligence!)
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Thats fine and I am sure its a great diamond, I just wanted to point it out, but especially as you saw it in person and compared it to others it could be the perfect choice for you.

And you are doing your due diligence!
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I just heard back from WF. Here is the abbreviated version of what I was told: Discussed the IS image w/ Master Gemologist; he believes combo of crown/pavillion angles are resulting in slightly lighter area in table; angles still within ACA range and well within traditional ideal cut parameters; not enough to effect the overall performance or designation of ACA; in the ASET image the light return in the center is all red which indicates direct/intense light return.

They are in the process of re-taking the IS image.
 
Date: 4/6/2010 12:21:38 PM
Author: legallyspoiled
I just heard back from WF. Here is the abbreviated version of what I was told: Discussed the IS image w/ Master Gemologist; he believes combo of crown/pavillion angles are resulting in slightly lighter area in table; angles still within ACA range and well within traditional ideal cut parameters; not enough to effect the overall performance or designation of ACA; in the ASET image the light return in the center is all red which indicates direct/intense light return.

They are in the process of re-taking the IS image.
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Thanks for the update, thats what I thought it could be the angle combo which is responsible, I can see these areas on both IS and ASET but thats great they are retaking the IS image so lets see how it looks.
 
I also see a circle of dark under the table in the real life photo, suggesting leakage... or the camera reflecting
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Did you also compare this diamond to G/H color stones?
 
Here is the NEW IS image.

Dreamer, I know that I definitely didn''t compare the K to any Gs. I think there was an H or an I in the bunch that we viewed though. We had originally asked to see Js. Our color range was always H - J.

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Oh my GOSH! I just screamed at these images.

I. LOVE. THIS. DIAMOND.

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and one more for good luck ;)

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The IS still does show some leakage under the table. But you seem sold
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When will you get it? How do you plan to set it?
 
I see what you guys mean now.

This is my dream setting as of 20 minutes ago, lol. It will take some twirking with the budget though. I would go for a simple knife edge wedding band.
 
Date: 4/6/2010 2:14:12 PM
Author: legallyspoiled
I see what you guys mean now.

This is my dream setting as of 20 minutes ago, lol. It will take some twirking with the budget though. I would go for a simple knife edge wedding band.
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The image looks better but that area is still visible, however it is debatable whether it is going to be visible in reality, looks like a lovely stone! The setting you love, WF do one very similar, the pave Legato.
 
LS, I actually owned this stone for a short period of time. It is a tinted stone and you will see color with normal wear and in most lighting conditions. I know that you posted it was very white face up, so I just didn''t want you to think that it is always going to appear that way. I thought I could handle the color and was excited to see such a nice size of a stone on my hand, but reality took over and I just wasn''t happy with it. But if you loved the color, then go for it. I just didn''t want you to think that this stone will always appear white. I wish you the best of luck on your search!!!
 
Heather,
I sooo didn''t want to hear that my soon to be stone was pre-owned. I wanted to be the first owner!
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That is water under the bridge now.
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I reviewed your posts from when you owned the stone. I might be wrong but it seemed as if you had a slight complex about it being a K. I nor my SO found the color offensive at all. We''ve both come across some disgusting stones in this process and this one wow''ed us! Granted, we may feel differently when we get to see it in other environments but I doubt it. And if we do, WF has a great trade-in and return policy so I''m not sweating bullets about it. The color of the stone is the least of my worries.

Thanks for the heads up!
 
I don''t think Healther nor I are trying to malign your diamond, I am certain it is a killer stone. As was my previous K.

It is just that more than a few people one here have tried Ks because they wanted their budgets to go further, not because they specifically wanted a K color diamond, and have been a little disapointed. Tinted diamonds are not colorless, they are their own entities and must be appreciated as such.

To turn things more positive, here is how I see the color of K diamonds -- I liken the color of my K to a sunset. There is an ever so slight warm glow to the light that comes from a K color stone. It is beautiful. And K color diamonds are moody. The body color basically adds a dimension to the colors that the diamond shows in two ways. First, depending on how much light there is for the diamond to emit, you will see more of less of the actual diamond material, so sometimes the diamond will look very clear and colorless and other times it will look tan or almost beige if you can see the body color closely and lights are low and warm to begin with. Never "yellow" like a lemon, more like the sands of the Sahara. And then the body color of the diamond is like looking at the returning light through ever so slightly tinted sunglasses. So the white light return will not always be pure white, but will have the warmth of a summer evening. And when you combine these two effect, you get myriad different appearances.

Lower color stones have a mystique I think that is gorgeous. They show many different personalities. They are also more subtle and less showy that colorless diamonds, because it is not bright white light being returned to the eye, but rather slightly warmed white light. Many people adore this color range for a reason.
 
LS, Oh I''m sorry!! you asked for opinions so I was just trying to help out. Most stones are pre-owned, so I never even thought......sorry. But yes that is the great thing about WF is that you can always trade it in. Good luck with your ring!!!
 
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