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JemFever,
My D sending love and hugs to yours :) Not trying to change your mind, but needels can be also very pretty:). OECs are rare and beautiful, but so are Ds. How about a D OEC? :twirl:

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Wooow :love: That is quite pretty. As for a D OEC, i thought I read your comment just yesterday to stick to white RBs, and warm OECs? ;)

I just got an email from Sarah at GOG that there's a potential 1.2 J SI1 OEC at the top limit of my budget. Hopefully she can send me some pics... I don't want to go higher than a J for the e-ring stone, and an EGL-J may be too warm. Well, can't wait to hear back from Sarah, needless to say!

Inna, you mentioned that you got GOG to source you an OEC, right? How long did it take? How happy are you with the stone they found?
 
GemFever,
What can I say, I love them all. :wink2:

I have to say that Jon did source exactly what I was asking for. I asked for an OMC around 1 carat (with tiny facets, i like tiny rather bold flashes), no lower than J and eye clean. The two stones he picked were abolute perfection. I posted them here. Jon also took a comparison video of both. I picked the more cushiony one since it fit perfectly into three stone OMC ring I was putting together (yes, it's done and I need to post some pictures).

The oval 1 carat I SI2 OMC (eyeclean) was posted on his site, and if it's still there you might want to take a look at it (didn't you recently asked about antique ovals ? :twirl: ).

Jon also mentioned the possibility of future upgrades, but we never got to finish that conversation. For a now, i'm happy with the stone and don't plan to upgrade it, but his inventory of old cuts is growing .... :twirl:

Edit: Found the link to the video:

http://api.viglink.com/api/click?fo...=g-9gG6l5VK0&jsonp=vglnk_jsonp_13395157824393
 
Ha, those are pretty much exactly my specs. Well, except for the OMC and the tiny facets part. But the size, color, and clarity - check, check, check.

Thanks for the link! I think I'd prefer an OEC for the ring, since I got two OMCs. Gotta mix it up at least a little. The oval is a project for the distant future.

Got a response from Sarah that considering my hesitations regarding the EGL-J, she'll keep looking.

Last but not least -- I'll be looking forward to pics of that three-stone!
 
OK. I looked up few options for you:

It .93, but look at the patterning!

http://www.oldworlddiamonds.com/detail.php?ID=1051&SHAPE=EU

.97 I VS2 kind of cushiony, and charming. The price is a bit high though:

http://www.oldworlddiamonds.com/detail.php?ID=846&SHAPE=EU

.98 J VS2, good spread for OEC and on the low side price:

http://www.oldworlddiamonds.com/detail.php?ID=893&SHAPE=EU

I would get this one, right here, right now:

.99 I VS2

http://www.oldworlddiamonds.com/detail.php?ID=1278&SHAPE=EU

1.02 K VS2, but looks white to me

http://www.oldworlddiamonds.com/detail.php?ID=1620&SHAPE=EU


There is a price jump as your cross that 1.0 magical point. And also i noticed that OECs are more expensive that OMCs (given all three Cs are equal)
 
Inna, that is amazing, spasibo!!!

I want the .93 and .98, please :bigsmile: The *problem* is (can you imagine, this is a *problem*!) that I have more money tied up at GOG already than these stones cost. Pretty much, I need to spend around 5K. I doubt GOG can give me an OEC and a refund for the rest for my "upgrade," u know? Man, that .98 really is looking good though!

Btw, how would you approach the fact that this is from another store's website? Say something like "I heard on PS that you and OWD share the same database, so I took a look at their stuff and here's what I like"?

Thanks again!
 
GemFever,
I can imagine that it's a problem. I was in exact the same situation. Wanted to trade in an AVC for RB, but it involved loosing some funds and I just couldn't do it, so I upgraded to .8 I SI2 AVR. Didn't enjoy it, and it went back for an OMC upgrade.

Here are some 5K options for you:

I really like this 1.0 K VS1:
http://www.oldworlddiamonds.com/detail.php?ID=733&SHAPE=EU

How about the best from both worlds:

.9 E SI1 (I would get it just to see how it looks like)

http://www.oldworlddiamonds.com/detail.php?ID=1067&SHAPE=EU

1.01 I SI1

http://www.oldworlddiamonds.com/detail.php?ID=1404&SHAPE=EU

.97 I VS1 (look at the flower under the table)

http://www.oldworlddiamonds.com/detail.php?ID=1235&SHAPE=EU

I think that some vendors share databases, so it doesn't hurt to ask directly if they can source you any of those stones for you.
 
I knew you would like this one (looks like you are looking for the one with bold chunky facets). Let us know what they say!
 
Hi everyone,

Checking in with my GOG D RB > OEC exchange process. I'm now working with Matt on finding a good OEC, and yesterday he sent me pics of one contender. Tentatively, I like it!

OEC contender: http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/9557/

current stone: http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/9468/

What do you think of the OEC?

I'll be waiting till Wednesday, when Jon comes back, to see if that OEC can get GOG's Lifetime Guarantee. I'd want to have that in case of future upgrades, which I don't think can be done with the Limited Guarantee stones.

On Tuesday, Matt said he'll send me a video comparing the OEC to an AVR. Looking forward to that, needless to say. :rodent:
 
Picture wise, I find the H&A always looks great. In real life, I have strong preference for OECs. So I am all supportive of you switching. They may not be as perfect but they are gorgeous and mesmorizes you.

I have a number of OECs but there is one I simply adore - the larger they are .. the better you can see the pretty flower pattern. My OEC has a smaller flower pattern than most and I simply love it.
 
Thanks for the response CharmyPoo!

I think this potential OEC also has a pretty small flower, at least the petals are pretty skinny under the table. It's not what I initially thought I'd go for, but I think I'll like it. Gah, can't wait for the video! Gotta ask Matt about the visibility of that inclusion, too.
 
Hey guys,

I got a video! I think I love it. :bigsmile: But hey, there is still time for feedback. What do you think of this OEC? Matt said the inclusion is not easily visible from 4 inches, practically invisible from 6 inches even when you know where it is. The AVR is just for comparison, that 1ct F SI1 is way outside my budget, even if AVRs were my thing.

Aaaa! So excited :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyIPnX2akW4&feature=youtu.be

And a crown comparison. The OEC is the fatter one. ::)

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That is a VERY nice OEC. I love the proportions. You won't find a better cut in my opinion!

I have a note for Jon about his videos and old cuts: The lighting in the videos is really not the best for assessing true antique cuts in my opinion. Although it does highlight the various components of light performance in RBs and other precision cuts very well, old cuts were not cut to perform well in lighting coming in directly over head, like it is in the diamond-dock lighting situation. Moreover, I don't spend much time enjoying my old cuts in those types of lighting :)) If I was trying to get a feel for an old cut by video I would like to see it in indirect diffuse lighting, perhaps outside on a cloudy day as well, or in very low lighting. Yes, hard to video! But those are the types of situations where oldies excell. If they look anything better then lame in the overhead high-octane lighting used to assess RBs then really, that is an exceptional old cut! haha
 
Dreamer, thanks for posting! Your good opinion of this stone is now breaking my heart because it didn't clear for lifetime policies, and I think I may be passing on it... I'll finish writing up my previous post. I'd be so glad to hear what you think!
 
Bummer for me today. Jon did not clear the OEC for Lifetime policies, which means if I got it, I couldn't go back and trade it up at GOG in the future. While I was planning to keep this OEC for a very long time, I don't think I'm ready to be "committed" to it forever. Especially in light of an OEC that sold on ebay yesterday (farmer_gal linked to it in another OEC thread), purportedly a 1.57 H VS2 for $6K (with a return policy!). [Meaning I could find another lovely OEC for less than 5K, and then change my GOG stone to an emerald cut, or an asscher, or something else cool...]

Oh, the reason it was not cleared was that the inclusions aren't placed favorably, and it's really closer to an SI2 than SI1, and GOG prefers to keep their OECs SI1 or better for easier re-selling in the future. Fair enough.

But in light of Dreamer's post... maybe I should just go for it? I do love the look of it.... aaaack what to dooooo!
 
NOPE keep looking. There are always other diamonds lady! Keep the upgrade policy.
 
You're right. Thanks, needed to hear that. Well, at least Matt at GOG knows exactly what my preferred OEC will look like, having seen this J.
 
The other option of course is to get this OEC now and when you want to upgrade, just buy one on the secondary market. But it takes a lot of time and effort. Trust me! :lol: but it would likely cost LESS to keep this one and buy another 1.75ct on ebay than it would to upgrade to a 1.75ct through a retail store. BUT... and this is a BIG BUT 8) ... stones above 1ct are really rare on ebay. Stones above 1.5ct are even more rare. And pricing is closer to retail. So not sure it is a safe move to count on that option in the future.
 
Sigh... to give up upgrading, or not to give up. Matt emailed me two new potential stones, just the basics since they are not in store:

0.9ct I VS1 – $5,635
0.85ct E VS1 – $6,136

With that jump in price, they are not good options. And smaller. And I don't care to pay for VS1 anymore. I could ask him to look only at VS2-SI1s in a limited (H-J) range, but that will take a while. I might just get waitlisted for months and months. And I remember how last year I was ready to upgrade my AVC a couple colors up, and then prices jumped overnight and it was out of my reach. So waiting for months longer may bite me in the butt.

As far as the upgrade, I don't envision wanting a larger stone for a while. Just maybe a different one. It feels reassuring somehow to have the upgrade option, kind of like having cash in a "diamond-only" bank, as opposed to just one stone. On the other hand, having that "cash" will mean I'll keep thinking about diamonds, checking stuff out, spending my time... it will be harder to be satisfied. So maybe just settle for this J? It looks really lovely. And instead of spending time thinking about diamonds and upgrades, spend my time saving money (i.e. being less distracted at work, planning my budget better, cooking home more, etc etc etc).

Choices, choices. What would you do?

I'll have to ask FI tonight. Though he's given me the reigns on this one a while ago, and knows that I'll do what I want in the end. Ah, stubbornness. Has its pluses and minuses.
 
Do you think that him handing you off the reigns on this ring is what makes it so limitless, an endless project?
I wonder if he showed enough stone related interest, took a look at the stones and the results, and said - that's it, that's the one I want to be our symbol - then maybe it would be easier to keep the stone selection for a longer period of time?

So are diamonds really difficult to sell back, or just sell? I know there's a ton of them, and that if look long enough and have enough money, you'll always be able to find what you like...
But say you have no return policy and buy a stone and wear it for 5-10 years. And you're still active in the hobby of stones, and keep discovering cuts etc, and there comes a time when you're bored with your current stone.
Would be entirely impossible to sell it? Not necessarily making a profit or even coming in even, but recovering, say, 75%?
 
Why, hello MimB! :bigsmile:

Good points... the thing is, FI liked the AVC. It's not like he did a ton of research and said "this is IT! the AVC! Not the rb, not the oval, not the princess, not the modern cushion, not an antique, but the AVC." When we saw it together, he was definitely pleased (but I already had my mind set on it). But since then... his preferences are "I like the stone to look as big as possible, and as chunky as possible." That's about the end of it... oh, and for some reason he likes the demantoid ::) I think that's because it's so prominent in my ring and the setting is so minimal. Not necessarily my absolute favorite look.

As for re-selling, I think that might be an option. Except I dread the selling process. I suppose I could get over it.

Gah, thinking about this is so exhausting. I'm pretty ready to just write Matt and get it over with. Love the J, and save up for another stone should I want to get another some day. In the meantime, I'm loving my chrysoberyl.

Oh, also.. when we went to Intergem and saw a larger OEC (visibly bigger than the AVC), he was like "well, why don't you just use the buy-back policy on the AVC and let's pull some funds and get the bigger OEC!" The OEC was warmer than L, too. He's just a size whore :lol:
 
Last update: I decided to go for the J. Got it today, unset. I love it! :)) No more upgrades through GOG for me, but as Dreamer mentioned, upgrades through a retail store end up costing quite a bit. If I'm meant to add to my diamond collection in the future... well, we'll see.

Last night I had a dream that I got this J delivered by FedEx (*cough* obsessively waiting for it *cough*) and opened it and it was yellow... creamy, like vanilla ice cream. It also looked big... then I started examining it, and some of the bottom facets had fallen off and were held together by ugly staples. And it had holes from where some screws had been drilled into it, and they were rusty. I thought to myself, hmmm... maybe this is adding to the color!

But when I got it today, I was shocked how white it is. A very white GIA-J.

And now, piiiiiics! All cell phone, I might get some camera shots later.

Thanks for everyone's advice!

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Gemfever!!!! ITS GORGEOUS!!!! you did WELL on this one! :appl: :love: :appl: :love:

As Dreamer said, you can resell it and you can always find another one eventually, but until then, you get to love the heck out of it and enjoy the flashes/chunks/flower pattern... for a very long time!! Great size - congrats on such a great diamond!
 
Wow, it is beautiful! :love: It faces up very white, which is always a bonus! :appl:
 
Ooh, I can see the flower pattern - it's so pretty!
I think my amateur eyes can also see that it is white - does it face up whiter than the previous stone (that you returned?)

Have you had a chance to look at it in more ambient lighting?

Also, I'm all eager for any plans for the setting (because an oval looked so balanced on a simple band, but a round probably will feel far too geometrically perfect?) I assume you'll be going for gold? If so, then what color?
 
It is gorgeous and I do think GIA-J is a very white color especially in old cuts which seem to handle light so differently than MRBs. Nice choice!
 
Whoa, it's gorgeous!! :love: A GIA J? Niiiice! I'm sure that sparkler is plenty white! Congrats Gemfever, I love it!

Sorry if I missed this - how are you going to set it? Any ideas?
 
Thanks gals!

Man, the fun of owning an OEC begins... in my mind, at least ;)) Does it perform? Is it overdark? Is the fire coming too much from the periphery and not the central facets? Oh la la. Then you see it in a good light, and it's flowers, colors, flowers, prettiness.

As for the setting, I'm stumped at the moment. The budget is super limited, maybe $400-500 max. I will probably set it in the simplest 6-prong 14K yellow gold setting I can find. I may want to put this stone a white metal eventually, but the 14K white gold I've seen I did not like. Oh, and I'd like to have it sit as low as possible too.

Some more pics, from my camera... the first will be a dark one, the kind of look that makes me nervous. The others are pretty shots. One includes the smaller OEC that I got at Intergem and then gave to my mom. This little OEC never made me worried about performance for some reason... it just always looks good and white. Maybe the smaller size helps, because I can't see the separate facets?

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