SeekingClarity
Shiny_Rock
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Hello PS Brain-trust!
It has been a while since I purchased an engagement ring for my DW, so please excuse the rust. Now I am helping a friend select a stone for an engagement ring, though he is under time pressure to select as stone ASAP (ideally this week) to ensure the ring can be completed in time. I tried to give him a general recap of everything I've absorbed from the forum and am now helping him make a selection. He is also hoping to buy the stone from a local jeweller (as he has picked one of their designs, though I think his girlfriend is after a MRB with a halo and pave band) and we are based in Sydney, Australia (in case you don't recall from all my previous questions!).
The jeweller initially suggested one stone, but after he asked for a few to compare, copies of their reports, all the measurements, H&A and ASET images they pulled the first stone and have instead offered up the following one. (I'm guessing the first one was a dud.)
GIA XXX 1.51 SI1 E
Table 57%
Depth 62.0%
Girdle medium to slightly thick 3.5%
Crown angle 36.0 deg
Pavilion angle 40.8 deg
7.33 x 7.37 x 4.56
It only faces up as 7.33 x 7.37, which I understand to be slightly below ideal (7.4mm?). And the crown angle may be a bit high?
I ran it through the HCA and it came back as a 3.5. It was my understanding that HCA should only be used to rule out a stone if it is above a 2 and not as the sole criteria with which to select a stone.
Unfortunately, the shop is not able to provide H&A or ASET images for any in-house / readily available diamonds. They said they will only provide an ASET for stones pulled in from the US, AFTER, he has committed to purchasing. This strikes me as bizarre, since the ASET would be one of the main criteria for purchasing a diamond.
This seems to be the only stone ~1.5 ct that is readily available to the shop, but I'm worried this might not be a cracker of a diamond (based on dimensions/HCA) and his girlfriend deserves one. If I'm not able to help him identify a better stone, and he is on the fence about importing a stone through the vendor, then he may end up going with this one in order to get the ring done. Am I right in ruling this one out based on the available info (HCA actually says "very good - worth buying if the price is right")? If you can't get an ASET or H&A image, how else would you recommend we evaluate potential stones? I'm hoping, some of you all have some advice!
(I do have an Idealscope that I bought from Holloway Diamonds, but am not too experienced in using one in person, as I have mostly looked at the images online. And the only stone available to check with the Idealscope is the one listed above.)
Hoping to get a couple more options for stones that might be available through the vendor from the US. I know for a fact that they will not insure a stone purchased elsewhere during the setting process, so he is likely stuck with this vendor.
Full report is below.
Cheers,
SC
It has been a while since I purchased an engagement ring for my DW, so please excuse the rust. Now I am helping a friend select a stone for an engagement ring, though he is under time pressure to select as stone ASAP (ideally this week) to ensure the ring can be completed in time. I tried to give him a general recap of everything I've absorbed from the forum and am now helping him make a selection. He is also hoping to buy the stone from a local jeweller (as he has picked one of their designs, though I think his girlfriend is after a MRB with a halo and pave band) and we are based in Sydney, Australia (in case you don't recall from all my previous questions!).
The jeweller initially suggested one stone, but after he asked for a few to compare, copies of their reports, all the measurements, H&A and ASET images they pulled the first stone and have instead offered up the following one. (I'm guessing the first one was a dud.)
GIA XXX 1.51 SI1 E
Table 57%
Depth 62.0%
Girdle medium to slightly thick 3.5%
Crown angle 36.0 deg
Pavilion angle 40.8 deg
7.33 x 7.37 x 4.56
It only faces up as 7.33 x 7.37, which I understand to be slightly below ideal (7.4mm?). And the crown angle may be a bit high?
I ran it through the HCA and it came back as a 3.5. It was my understanding that HCA should only be used to rule out a stone if it is above a 2 and not as the sole criteria with which to select a stone.
Unfortunately, the shop is not able to provide H&A or ASET images for any in-house / readily available diamonds. They said they will only provide an ASET for stones pulled in from the US, AFTER, he has committed to purchasing. This strikes me as bizarre, since the ASET would be one of the main criteria for purchasing a diamond.
This seems to be the only stone ~1.5 ct that is readily available to the shop, but I'm worried this might not be a cracker of a diamond (based on dimensions/HCA) and his girlfriend deserves one. If I'm not able to help him identify a better stone, and he is on the fence about importing a stone through the vendor, then he may end up going with this one in order to get the ring done. Am I right in ruling this one out based on the available info (HCA actually says "very good - worth buying if the price is right")? If you can't get an ASET or H&A image, how else would you recommend we evaluate potential stones? I'm hoping, some of you all have some advice!
(I do have an Idealscope that I bought from Holloway Diamonds, but am not too experienced in using one in person, as I have mostly looked at the images online. And the only stone available to check with the Idealscope is the one listed above.)
Hoping to get a couple more options for stones that might be available through the vendor from the US. I know for a fact that they will not insure a stone purchased elsewhere during the setting process, so he is likely stuck with this vendor.
Full report is below.
Cheers,
SC