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H+A, vs. 8 Main Cushion Cut vs. August Vintage

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Before I make any final decisions I was hoping to get some input on the differences - I know ultimately it comes down to preference:

H&A cushion cut seem to have smaller flashes usually with amazing scintillation. I've seen GOG's Brellia cut videos and it looks amazing!

August vintage seem to be cut with larger facets which gives off bigger and bolder flashes with great scintillation as well.

Can anyone describe an 8 main cushion cut to me? I know they are rare and one became available so was hoping to get some input. Also, if my descriptions above are incorrect, please let me know :)

Thanks,

Alias (aka, person who asks a lot of questions :)
 
Okay, first let me ask you something. Does the recipient like anything vintage? Has she pointed out any antique style settings such as Tacori, etc.? Or does she like everything ultramodern? Of those three diamonds you mention, one I love, one I wouldn't mind having (basically just a taste issue between 1 and 2), and one I would not want at all because I think it wouldn't compare in light performance. But what matters is HER taste and it would help to know a little more about what she likes!
 
Here are a couple 8 main cushions so you can see what they look like:

http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/cushion-cut/4.02-carat-f-color-vs1-clarity-sku-166359
http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/cushion-cut/3.26-carat-h-color-vs1-clarity-sku-165665


Depends. What does the recipient want?

If they want something like the tiffany novo-- then the H&A is a good choice. And BGD and GOG both carry them.
If they want something as close to the HW halo, then an 8 main is a great choice.
If they want something with blocky large antique facets, then that's what I'd go for.

All three of styles are lovely when you get a nice one. The rest is just a matter of taste.
 
Hi Alias,

8 main cushions come in so many varieties. In fact August Vintage as well as Brellia are both different varieties of 8 main cushions but with dramatically different personalities and both exhibiting AGS Ideal optics. There are so many factors that involve both personality as well as optical performance, none of which can ultimately be answered with a simple photograph so your question is a tough one to answer. Ultimately it boils down to actual facet structure combined with optical symmetry and geometry/proportions that will determine the ultimate outcome of any 8 main cushion. I've seen 4 mains beat out 8 mains too so the amount of mains isn't necessarily *key* to what consists of what you see as most beautiful.

Kind regards,
Rhino
 
Thank you all very much for your input!

Last night I came across a video comparing 8 mains to 4 mains - a video actually done by you Rhino (great video btw!)- and it provided a lot of perspective. Essentially, similar to what you guys posted, it is all preference, assuming all things equal (i.e., cut).

To be honest, I am not really sure what she prefers. That said, when I saw the GOG video comparing an August Vintage to a HA Brellia I knew really liked the H+A – granted I have never seen one in person, that I know of - and I think she will too!

Right now I am essentially comparing the Brellia to the new BN H+A. The problem is I am not sure how comfortable I feel purchasing a diamond without actually seeing it first – either in person or a good picture or video – hence having trouble pulling the trigger on the BN HA. The Brellia looks amazing from the videos and pictures I have seen but it is a bit out of my price range, at least the inventory on the website. There is this one here: http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/10047/ but not sure how I feel about the H. Any thoughts?
 
I think the Brellia is a gorgeous diamond! I have bought a few diamonds from Good Old Gold, so I am a happy customer! Good Old Gold can get you other ideal cut stones in if you want to consider a round, too. But I would not buy a diamond that I cannot have pictures of and an idealscope image. I don't even look at vendors who don't provide them. Would you buy a car that you had never seen a picture of or know its reliability, etc.? I don't think so!
 
Chiming in with everyone else that it is REALLY just a matter of taste. I have seen fantastic examples of all of those kinds of cushions, and they are all beautiful. For myself, I would pick an AVC because I love big bold flashes of light. But I know my husband would easily prefer the H&A cushion for all sorts of reasons.

If you want a Brellia but GOG doesn't have one in your budget on the site, you could always call and see if they have access to others? I don't know if they would, especially since it's holiday season so there's high demand for jewelry, but it doesn't hurt to ask!

(And I am sure the H is plenty white. Unless you are extremely color sensitive, which, judging by most rings I see out and about, most people are not.)
 
Thanks for the posts!

I think I am actually going to try and me 'sly' and show her the video of a AVC vs. Brellia and see what she goes for! They both look stunning! AND I can actually see these through video and good images before considering buying w/ a deposit of course :)

I really like Pricescope - the various threads, responses etc... have really allowed me to make inform decisions. Thanks for that PriceScope and all its members!
 
Alias|1386976356|3573893 said:
Thanks for the posts!

I think I am actually going to try and me 'sly' and show her the video of a AVC vs. Brellia and see what she goes for! They both look stunning! AND I can actually see these through video and good images before considering buying w/ a deposit of course :)

I really like Pricescope - the various threads, responses etc... have really allowed me to make inform decisions. Thanks for that PriceScope and all its members!
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If you can do that, that is the best idea. Nothing like getting the ladies input when you can. ;))

Kind regards,
Rhino
 
Alias|1386976356|3573893 said:
Thanks for the posts!

I think I am actually going to try and me 'sly' and show her the video of a AVC vs. Brellia and see what she goes for! They both look stunning! AND I can actually see these through video and good images before considering buying w/ a deposit of course :)

I really like Pricescope - the various threads, responses etc... have really allowed me to make inform decisions. Thanks for that PriceScope and all its members!
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You certainly have done your homework and have narrowed it down to some great stones! It would really help for her to express some preferences on setting style, because that would help us the most to direct you to one stone or the other!
 
So being the 'sly' guy that I am, I showed her various youtube videos and she prefers the Hearts and Arrow cushion cuts to the AVC.

I spoke to someone at GOG (great customer service btw - even over the phone my questions were all answered!), and currently in stock or at the supplier they do not have exactly what I am looking for. With that said, this one is close...http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/10047/ The only worry I have is the H color. Initially I wanted to stick with a DEF.
Any thoughts on this diamond?

Thanks!
 
You can't see a VS1 feather. Many people are very happy with their eye clean SI1s. H color is fine. Many people cannot tell a D from a G, or an F from an I once mounted in a ring.
 
Thanks Julie! Out of curiosity if you zoom in a little on the BG diamond...and let it rotate, I see what initially I thought was an inclusion...but upon closer look and different angles, it looks like it is sticking out of the diamond. Anyone else see that? I assume that is some sort of dust?
 
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Alias|1387127192|3574708 said:
So being the 'sly' guy that I am, I showed her various youtube videos and she prefers the Hearts and Arrow cushion cuts to the AVC.

I spoke to someone at GOG (great customer service btw - even over the phone my questions were all answered!), and currently in stock or at the supplier they do not have exactly what I am looking for. With that said, this one is close...http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/10047/ The only worry I have is the H color. Initially I wanted to stick with a DEF.
Any thoughts on this diamond?

Thanks!
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In general Alias an H color with Ideal Optics will face up whiter than H colors with non ideal optics and generally difficult to distinguish between 1 color grade.

Kind regards,
Rhino
 
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