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Finding the right stone... SI2, G color, ideal cut (AGS 000)

Re: Finding the right stone... SI2, G color, ideal cut (AGS

MaximusFS|1377536266|3509984 said:
Ugh the H stone you put up is a very yellow "H"... I'm not sure I agree that the stone looks dull but it does look like there is more contrast in the stone you referenced.
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yes, I understand, but again it wasn't a recommendation, only an example. :))
Would you like some 'recommendations'?
 
Re: Finding the right stone... SI2, G color, ideal cut (AGS

Thanks for the input!
 
Re: Finding the right stone... SI2, G color, ideal cut (AGS

Heck yeah because I would love to push a third stone for the James Allen gemologist to review. Thanks :)
 
Re: Finding the right stone... SI2, G color, ideal cut (AGS

This one gets my vote. Gorgeous, in budget and eye clean. The fluorescence in a big bonus for many here as well! =)

http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds/diamond-details/1.008-i-si2-round-diamond-ags-bl-104064812012#!prettyPhoto[gallery2]/0/

ETA: I'm not crazy about the ASET and IS images, but I do know that Jonathon only includes the strongest top performers in his superior HA signature line, so this one may be worth a call. I would completely value his opinion.
http://goodoldgold.com/diamond/10559/
 
Re: Finding the right stone... SI2, G color, ideal cut (AGS

Three diamonds forwarded to James Allen for review at this point. Requested idealscopes & ASET images for all three. To be continued...

THANKS FOR YOUR HELP!!
 
Re: Finding the right stone... SI2, G color, ideal cut (AGS

1. http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut/1.01-carat-g-color-si2-clarity-sku-230426

2. http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut/1.00-carat-g-color-si1-clarity-sku-240916

3. http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-dia...-g-color-si1-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-248523


Second one has a single goober out on the side. Could that be covered by a prong? Likely getting a six prong setting because she is a nurse and wears gloves/bangs her hands around all day.

http://www.jamesallen.com/engagemen...-prong-pave-diamond-engagement-ring-item-1200
 
Re: Finding the right stone... SI2, G color, ideal cut (AGS

The black near-surface inclusion close to 6:00 wouldn't bother you?
 
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Bump, thanks for your input! :praise:
 
Re: Finding the right stone... SI2, G color, ideal cut (AGS

This diamond would not be eye clean loose at least to my standards and eyesight. But why would I worry when i have 6 prongs that I could cover it under one of them? In contrast, the inclusions in the SI2 worries me more. This needle (elongated crystal) is more than ideal for an SI1.
 
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Plus that diamond has strong fluoro... what do you think?
 
Re: Finding the right stone... SI2, G color, ideal cut (AGS

It is best to wait for the reviews. In the meantime, you might probably want to do more reading up to convince yourself what kind of stones to go for. At the end of the day, it is your opinion that matters the most. :)
 
Re: Finding the right stone... SI2, G color, ideal cut (AGS

MaximusFS|1377627908|3510783 said:
do you so what about the third one we haven't discussed? Any thoughts?

There are more tiny inclusions but very eye clean with extremely low HCA- 1.1 (if i recall correctly)

http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-dia...-g-color-si1-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-248523
Again, thanks for your help!
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By the way, this diamond is not eye clean. It's clarity is "worse" than that of the one with the needle. It has a brown feather at the edge in case you haven't noticed and it is very obvious too.
 
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I didntn see that before. Crap. I still doubt this isn't an eye clean stone from a 6-12" viewing range.

As for the high performance diamond, the cut is BEAUTIFUL! Unfortunately, that crystal inclusion is a bit too evident even when you view the light return.... will possibly give them a call tomorrow, thanks.
 
Re: Finding the right stone... SI2, G color, ideal cut (AGS

now i can't unsee that feather...thanks.
 
Re: Finding the right stone... SI2, G color, ideal cut (AGS

One more piece of advice. You can't game the grading system for clarity. Not with GIA or AGS.

At SI grades for 1 carat + diamonds, the stone could be clean but it might pose to some degree, brilliance/durability issues. If it doesn't, you can probably see the inclusions without a loupe. Of course, this might vary according to individuals and depends on your eyesight and how eagle eyed you are.
 
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Maximus, may I ask how many diamonds you have looked at in person? Looking at them in real life is completely different to looking at them blown up on a computer screen. Not being able to unsee an inclusion on the screen in no way correlates to seeing an inclusion in real life.

Garry Holloway put together a decent tutorial on diamond clarity http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMbGl5TWrCc,, it's well worth a look.
 
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The sun is shining|1377673549|3511192 said:
Maximus, may I ask how many diamonds you have looked at in person? Looking at them in real life is completely different to looking at them blown up on a computer screen. Not being able to unsee an inclusion on the screen in no way correlates to seeing an inclusion in real life.

Garry Holloway put together a decent tutorial on diamond clarity http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMbGl5TWrCc,,, it's well worth a look.
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I'm honestly quite surprised to see my thoughts being in-line with Garry's considering that the comments I make about SI diamonds would sound like blasphemy against common advice dished out on Pricescope.
 
Re: Finding the right stone... SI2, G color, ideal cut (AGS

I'm getting a diamond pave setting that has diamonds in th g-h range which is why I thought it would be important to get a g or h colored diamond or better. I really like the idea of getting closer to 1.25 carats by going down on color but I think it might be noticeable.
I have no doubt that clarity is small potatoes... I was engaged before and had an SI2 0.54 carat G and could barely see any inclusions before I gave the ring to my ex... I am assuming in a larger stone it would be easier to see inclusions. It does make me more nervous doing this online (last time I bought wholesale fr a friend of the family...) so the clarity issues are a bit haunting bc I have 40x photos to make me nervous. At the 6k price point, what would you guys be looking for in the 4 c's? Highest value clearly goes to cut but after that, what??

Thanks!
 
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Bump! :idea: :!: :mrgreen:

So you guys basically think that the three I'm choosing from aren't the best choices to start with...? Or should I not care about these inclusions?
 
Re: Finding the right stone... SI2, G color, ideal cut (AGS

delight|1377652335|3511065 said:
It is best to wait for the reviews. In the meantime, you might probably want to do more reading up to convince yourself what kind of stones to go for. At the end of the day, it is your opinion that matters the most. :)
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Re: Finding the right stone... SI2, G color, ideal cut (AGS

MaximusFS|1377703533|3511313 said:
Bump! :idea: :!: :mrgreen:

So you guys basically think that the three I'm choosing from aren't the best choices to start with...? Or should I not care about these inclusions?
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I think you should care about types of inclusions from most important to least

Clouds
Feathers
Twining Wisps
Internal Graining
Knot
Crystal
Needle Pinpoint

Crystals can be 2 colors, black or white. I would prefer a white crystal over a large cloud any day of the week. However inclusions are subjective. One great thing about inclusions, is the ability to easily identify your stone.

It is personal choice. I think you need to view some stones in person to decide what you find is a mind clean stone.
 
Re: Finding the right stone... SI2, G color, ideal cut (AGS

MaximusFS|1377685461|3511216 said:
I'm getting a diamond pave setting that has diamonds in th g-h range which is why I thought it would be important to get a g or h colored diamond or better. I really like the idea of getting closer to 1.25 carats by going down on color but I think it might be noticeable.
I have no doubt that clarity is small potatoes... I was engaged before and had an SI2 0.54 carat G and could barely see any inclusions before I gave the ring to my ex... I am assuming in a larger stone it would be easier to see inclusions. It does make me more nervous doing this online (last time I bought wholesale fr a friend of the family...) so the clarity issues are a bit haunting bc I have 40x photos to make me nervous. At the 6k price point, what would you guys be looking for in the 4 c's? Highest value clearly goes to cut but after that, what??

Thanks!
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I'd go cut and size over colour any day of the week, but that is just me. I doubt that a good solid "I" colour set into a G H halo will be a huge colour difference to the eye particularly if its a H halo and you won't notice that much colour in the centre stone because the halo will prevent you looking at the stone side on.

Internal graining can impact the brilliance of the stone (notice I said CAN because this is not always the case) making it appear lifeless and dull. The person above sites clouds as the enemy, it depends how many there are and how bad they are, you can't really generalise that all stones with clouds are bad because in most of them they aren't, in the same way you can't say all stones are impacted by internal graining. Some are and some aren't. Always ask the vendor.
 
Re: Finding the right stone... SI2, G color, ideal cut (AGS

Pardon me for butting in... I am not nearly as knowledgeable as most of the wonderful folks posting here, but I DO have history with settings, the setting the Allen people recommend in my humble opinion is too wide/thick.. your picked stone is lovely! 1 carat is bitchin, but I feel the setting picked would make the stone seem smaller than it is.. I would suggest this one:

http://www.jamesallen.com/engagement-rings/pave/14k-white-gold-pave-cathedral-claw-prong-engagement-ring-item-1637

I've reset my 1.66 round G/H color VS2 stone, (i've had it 25 years so I don't have a GIA report) I reset it 2 years ago with a lot of baguette on the sides.. (too much) and the ring's band became much wider.. my diamond seemed to disappear so just recently I had a setting custom made using the baguettes and setting them east-west, the 8 baguettes go more than half way around the setting, my diamond POPS... (personally I would love to reset it the setting I posted but my husband would minimally divorce me, perhaps go ballastic ;-) the stone looks beautiful and you know your lady better than anyone :)
 
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My girlfriend wants a wider band. She has long, somewhat wide fingers (size 7.5) so she had tried on a few bands and wanted a wider one...

I hear what you're saying though. A petit band makes the diamond look a lot more substantial. Thanks for the suggestion!
 
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