Just what kind of ''truths'' are you expecting that would cause her to jump ship? This is pretty minor stuff; I mean, c''mon; and she knew going in that these things would be brought up. She still decided to accept. I think she has a stronger stomache for this ''ca-ca slinging'' than you''re giving her credit for.
I'm not pro-anyone at this point in time, I just think it's funny how all the outrage over Palin's pregnant teenager is coming from "liberal" Dems and I wish people against her would focus on her POLITICS instead of her daughter. When Clinton was being investigated for cheating on Hillary I remember all of the Dems defending him and saying that his personal life didn't matter, etc., etc....I guess it's different when it's your pregnant teen instead of yourself?
Oh Deco Deco...a key lime pier and a democrat...what am I ever gonna do with you?Date: 9/2/2008 5:42:45 PM
Author: decodelighted
I just can''t wipe the smile OFF of my face. The ''left wing'' doesn''t have to do a darn thing. Palin and her wobbly card-house-of-lies is gonna implode all on their own. Tabloids smell blood in the water. No need for tip offs or sliming or anything other than the TRUTH to slowly but surely leak on out. Its a new age. The age of love children on the cover of national rags, rather than quietly whispered about. Consider the VP candidacy death watch commenced. Hey, at least McCain will get to pick his BFF Lieberman now!
Bwahahahahaha.
And look what it took ... McCain can''t help himself around a pretty face ... again.
ps-- I *am* sorry that a few teenagers and an innocent baby or two are getting hurt by this scandal. Wish their parents hadn''t set them up for disaster though. Great judgment, right? Heartbeat away from the Oval Office style ''judgment''? Think NOT.
The question, Holly, is does HE (McCain) have the stomach for this?
Actually, I wouldn't care one whit if the whole story was the teenager was *now* preggers. My completely unsubstantiated HUNCH is that this new scandal is a fabricated smokescreen for the REAL scandal ... that Trig is actually Bristol's baby ... and that either Bristol will suffer a public but faked "miscarriage" or, since she is supposed to be due in post-election DECEMBER, that, by then ... if no "new" baby shows up -- oops -- too late to do anything about it. And if *that* turns out to be true then the candidate is a very habitual and hypocritical liar who has put her family in harm's way to further her political ambitions. Where's the doctor who delivered -- the teen sex abuse & drug specialist? NOT an OB/GYN? Where's the birth records? How come photos are showing up online doctored with new dates? Or stripped entirely? Does the Palin camp not realize the Waybackmachine will show all? Give it time. Its not just "liberals" on this story. Its too juicy to ignore. Just like the Edwards story no one believed until -- oops, it was TRUE! Or Clinton even (I'll admit). Intern? No WAY! But ooops! YES! We'll see ....
Lime-tastic!!!
Well, you aren''t with me!Date: 9/2/2008 7:08:23 PM
Author: diamondfan
Holly, am I in trouble?
I just want to be sure...I have tried not to get personal at all here, just say my views and a personal experience of mine that was somewhat pertinent!
I hope that I have not been insulting or insulted...just weighing into the fray here but cannot read all those posts that occurred since I have been gone!
I actually haven't seen any Republicans speak of Palin's daughter in a disparaging way, only liberals (again, not talking about PS alone, just in general from what I've seen). I'm sure some do feel uncomfortable with the situation, but I highly doubt any voters will be going Obama's way. I guess my whole feeling is that even *if* Republicans react in the ways that Dems want/expect them to it wouldn't lead to more votes for Obama. They will still vote for McCain. I couldn't even follow your whole post because I haven't read all the "juicy" details of her daughter's pregnancy rumors because I'm not interested in it enough to research all the things people are alleging nowadays. I tried reading one liberal blog but I had to stop because the comments were so vile. I don't want to succumb to the media/blog hype, speculation, and sensationalism of a very common situation in the U.S. today...I'd much rather Palin be attacked for her lack of experience, etc. than her teenage daughter's pregnancy. I don't have time to sit here and speculate about a teenage girl's pregnancy status...I also don't think birth/medical records are *anyone's* business...talk about invasion of privacy.
The game changing move is kind of what got me...it came from way too far out there. I actually did not think it was a genius move at all.Date: 9/2/2008 7:28:17 PM
Author: decodelighted
Lime-tastic!!!OMG You are *so* right. Am *eating* it up!!! But, if my hunch is bunk than I''ll *eat* up some crow too.Honestly, I thought it was a genius game-changer when I first heard about the nom. But so much has come out ... SO FAST that my head is spinning. No *way* is she worth the potential downside so I guess I''ve changed my mind about the ''genius'' part.
LOL. Ouch. Ya got me. Okay, so Taylor is not the "next Bruce Springsteen" or whatever hooey I may have mined from my nether regions. And Jason Castro didn't win this year's AI. I have a "Guitar Hero" game in the house now because of it. So I am paying for that one.Date: 9/2/2008 7:36:26 PM
Author: TravelingGal
Crow...hmm...doncha have leftovers from that whole Taylor-whathisname think? Hehehehe.
Yeah, I like Obama''s attitude...he has two girls himself, so who knows if he''ll be in the same boat one day. It''s very smart of him to stay away from it and I''m sure he wouldn''t appreciate pictures of his children being all over the web being analyzed by complete strangers. He also couldn''t say anything about Palin''s daughter without slinging some mud on his own family/unwed, teenage mother.
Well, I certainly don''t believe that women should be barefoot and pregnant at home - but I do believe that if people choose to have children, maybe it would be nice for the kids if they spent a little time raising them. You don''t have to agree with me, but it''s my opinion that if someone is spending 80 hours a week working, why bother have children? When will you see them? My son is only awake about 12 or 13 hours per day. If I were gone for 11 of those hours, I would barely see him. In fact, there are several families that live in my neighborhood with full-time nannies, and neighbors who work very demanding jobs. When I see those nannies at the park with the kids, the smaller kids often call the nannies "mommy," because they are the ones that take care of them all day long. And when the parents, my neighbors, and home on the weekends, a lot of the moms complain to me about how their kids don''t listen to them and don''t respect them - I think it''s oftentimes because they don''t do any actual parenting until Saturday rolls around, so how can a child be expected to respond to someone they only spend a couple of hours a day with?
So if any primary caretaker in a non-institutional setting can best raise a child, then why does Palin have to turn down a possible **VP** position if her husband can be at home full-time? What works for one person does not work for another...to each his own. If she was trotting off to Washington and abandoning her children then yes, maybe she wouldn''t be the World''s Best Mother, but if her family is coming with her and they have one full-time parent, where is the problem? I won''t judge someone''s parenting skills based upon their chosen profession. Women''s rights and equality in the workplace must not be as progressive as I had thought...
Date: 9/2/2008 9:09:06 PM
Author: IndyGirl22
Women''s rights and equality in the workplace must not be as progressive as I had thought...
I don't think her parenting skills correlate to her ability to be a good leader and I don't think we need to start demanding parenting/family schemes from all political candidates.
Ditto. This is...sad. You know, there is another parent in the home, he's called the father.Date: 9/2/2008 9:23:30 PM
Author: SarahLovesJS
Date: 9/2/2008 9:09:06 PM
Author: IndyGirl22
Women's rights and equality in the workplace must not be as progressive as I had thought...
*steps back in* If there's one thing I've realized this year..that's it. I think you're unfortunately 100% correct and the workplace as well as society are not as progressive as we had hoped.*steps out*
Date: 9/2/2008 9:59:39 PM
Author: IndyGirl22
I don''t think her parenting skills correlate to her ability to be a good leader and I don''t think we need to start demanding parenting/family schemes from all political candidates.Let''s ask Obama who has been taking care of his kids and how they are raised.A teenage daughter''s unexpected pregnancy is *NOT* a decision made by any parent, let alone a well thought-out one. In reference to her decision to accept the VP nomination, I highly doubt it was a spur of the moment acceptance and she did think about her family in her decision...she''s a mother of five and it''d be natural to do so for ANY job. Clinton showed poor judgment and no thought process in his many affairs in the White House, but no one claims that affected his ability to lead...the two are not usually linked IMHO.
Yes, it was discussed but nothing came of it...many people today still regard him as a great president. EVERYTHING is about makiing decisions. I could bring up a myriad of bad decisions BOTH candidates and VPs have made and the media has hyped up but I won''t because I know not all of them affect their ability to lead. I guess we just disagree that candidates should have to explain their parenting skills to get elected...funny that none of this came up until a woman with children was up for the job. No matter *who* ran negative things could be said about their parenting skills because everyone does whatever they think is right for them and their family. To think she purposefully wants anything but the best for her family is going too far and imputing inference upon inference about a private family situation we don''t know a lot about IMHO. All parents have regrets but they do the best with what they know and believe. I only brought up her husband because people are acting like these children are getting left out in the cold like latchkey kids.
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