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Without images or videos we cant be helpful
 
We can check the basic stats and give an opinion on those, tho.

The IGI reports lack crown and pavilion angles, as well as lower facet percentages. So there's simply not enough info to comment on those.

The 2 GIA stones, however, are almost identical in their stats, and both gorgeous. Add in that lovely white color and a nice level of clarity, and you have 2 wonderful lab grown diamonds!

Only because it's a tiny bit deeper with a sliiiiightly smaller table, I'd go with the 4.03ct VS1 - and some would say that the star length, at 50%, is optimum, given its position *exactly* plum center of the recommended percentages (45-55%).

But these things are so minimum, it's unlikely there would be any issues in either stone. But that 4.03? I'm guessing any video would only confirm what the stats already show - perfect proportions on a big, clean, white, super sparkly diamond!

Good luck!
 

To be honest, I prefer to evaluate a diamond from stats rather than video, as after a certain point, what you're often evaluating is higher video quality - particularly the way the diamond is sitting - rather than anything else. If the diamond is not sitting 100% square on to the camera - which is *often* the case - it makes a massive difference to the way the arrows line up, for example, and if it's tilted, even minutely, up or down, it will affect the clarity of the entire pattern from top to bottom. Anyway, having said all of that....

I still stand with the E VS1 4.03 - even more so now, if anything. The facet pattern on the first 2 diamonds isn't great - kinda messy on number 2, and a bit off kilter (tho, again, it could be the angle the diamond is sitting at) for number 1.

In the final analysis, allowing for what could be video difference, all 4 of these stones will look almost indistinguishable from each other in real life. Of more importance, in my opinion, is whether you're swayed by the rapid and substantial drop in lab grown diamond prices. I'd advise you to be certain you've embraced that fully and have no issue with it before proceeding.

But, again, having said allllll that....

4.03 E VS1 for me.
 
The 4.03 or 4.08 for sure
 
Have you seen this?https://www.pricescope.com/communit...mrb-e-vs2-never-set-picked-by-dejawiz.282695/


1 and 4 have visible CVD graining in the videos that may/may not be an issue in person. 2 and 3 likely have blue nuance that may be an issue if you prefer something that looks more natural or plan to set it with diamonds without blue nuance. I would skip 2 in any case for the questionable cut in the video.
 
Thank you all for inputs. So,
  • 1 and 4 are out as I prefer HPHT.
  • 2 is also out as the video shows messy cut. But question, do you know how could stonealgo rates the cutting? It said 9.6!
  • 3 likely has blue nuance? This i cant tell with my untrained eyes though I have seen many videos
Back to search ;(
 
Thank you all for inputs. So,
  • 1 and 4 are out as I prefer HPHT.
  • 2 is also out as the video shows messy cut. But question, do you know how could stonealgo rates the cutting? It said 9.6!
  • 3 likely has blue nuance? This i cant tell with my untrained eyes though I have seen many videos
Back to search ;(

Ignore stone algo's cut rating. It's completely meaningless. I like 3 a lot, but there is slight blue nuance.
 
Stonealgo, HCA, etc. rely on the averaged and rounded numbers on the reports. There are many ways for a messy cut even with perfect numbers.


Focus on the girdle edges with the stones at a tilt to check for blue nuance.
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D without blue nuance
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Thank you all for inputs. So,
  • 1 and 4 are out as I prefer HPHT.
  • 2 is also out as the video shows messy cut. But question, do you know how could stonealgo rates the cutting? It said 9.6!
  • 3 likely has blue nuance? This i cant tell with my untrained eyes though I have seen many videos
Back to search ;(

So...HPHT is not acceptable to you? That sort of information would be useful before asking for evaluations.
 
So...HPHT is not acceptable to you? That sort of information would be useful before asking for evaluations.

HPHT would be preferred. CVD is more likely to have grains and to make it easier for amateurs like myself, I decided to avoid it all together. The GIA doesn’t mention CVD so I assumed for the price point it was HPHT. Now I know that CVD could be any pricing range. Sorry for the inconvenience it may cause.
 
Can’t really use price range as an indicator of growth method or quality. Pricing for labs are all over the place.

Have you seen this one? This may have extremely minor blue nuance, but it’s at a nice price point.
 
Can’t really use price range as an indicator of growth method or quality. Pricing for labs are all over the place.

Have you seen this one? This may have extremely minor blue nuance, but it’s at a nice price point.

That price is attractive. My friend is color sensitive so I am going to rely on PSers’ help to find one with no blue nuance. Even I can’t tell unless someone pointed out :(
 
If your friend is color sensitive you may want to stick with D color in a 4 ct, unless there’s a preference for certain tints or color grades.
 
She has seen my 4 ct E and F stones and said she would like something similar. In general she is ok with colorless D-F. However, I have heard her commented on blue/gray tint which I can’t even tell. My stones do not have blue nuance but she said others have.
Anyway, he has a 5k budget including the setting. If most $ is for the stone, he will get the temporary setting and save for setting upgrade in near future. He has also reached out to the private seller but told me not stop looking. I think he likes the return policy in case she is not so happy with his choice. Knowing my friend, she will love whatever ring he presents but we would like to get her something as close as what she has seen of mine if possible in term of color, carat, clarity, cut… If you come across a great one, please do share. Appreciate it.
 
@lovedogs, is this what you're referring to as possible paddling?

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@0515vision you have learned a great deal. I am still clueless :lol-2:

The one posted in Preloved forum is sold :lol-2:. I hope it went to a Pser.

Anything is worthwhile among these 5? Pls ignore the price as I have found them cheaper in other sites but I am constrained by this friend’s budget of < 5k. TIA.
  1. https://www.ritani.com/products/4-1...vvs1-clarity-igi-lg578353328-sku-d-3af7vkrovk
  2. https://www.ritani.com/products/4-1...-vvs2-clarity-gia-3465378771-sku-d-39bww5139v
  3. https://www.ritani.com/products/4-0...-vs1-clarity-igi-lg581338069-sku-d-5ul289jmj9
  4. https://www.ritani.com/products/4-0...-vs1-clarity-igi-lg598340181-sku-d-5ul28jo1g5
  5. https://www.stonealgo.com/diamond-details/IGI-number-LG585316408
 
@0515vision you have learned a great deal. I am still clueless :lol-2:

The one posted in Preloved forum is sold :lol-2:. I hope it went to a Pser.

Anything is worthwhile among these 5? Pls ignore the price as I have found them cheaper in other sites but I am constrained by this friend’s budget of < 5k. TIA.
  1. https://www.ritani.com/products/4-1...vvs1-clarity-igi-lg578353328-sku-d-3af7vkrovk
  2. https://www.ritani.com/products/4-1...-vvs2-clarity-gia-3465378771-sku-d-39bww5139v
  3. https://www.ritani.com/products/4-0...-vs1-clarity-igi-lg581338069-sku-d-5ul289jmj9
  4. https://www.ritani.com/products/4-0...-vs1-clarity-igi-lg598340181-sku-d-5ul28jo1g5
  5. https://www.stonealgo.com/diamond-details/IGI-number-LG585316408

I like 1 and 2.

3 and 4 don't have video so I don't want to judge.

I don't really like 5
 
I like 3
 
3 is my favorite of all of them now rhat there are more videos
 
@0515vision you have learned a great deal. I am still clueless :lol-2:

The one posted in Preloved forum is sold :lol-2:. I hope it went to a Pser.

Anything is worthwhile among these 5? Pls ignore the price as I have found them cheaper in other sites but I am constrained by this friend’s budget of < 5k. TIA.
  1. https://www.ritani.com/products/4-1...vvs1-clarity-igi-lg578353328-sku-d-3af7vkrovk
  2. https://www.ritani.com/products/4-1...-vvs2-clarity-gia-3465378771-sku-d-39bww5139v
  3. https://www.ritani.com/products/4-0...-vs1-clarity-igi-lg581338069-sku-d-5ul289jmj9
  4. https://www.ritani.com/products/4-0...-vs1-clarity-igi-lg598340181-sku-d-5ul28jo1g5
  5. https://www.stonealgo.com/diamond-details/IGI-number-LG585316408

Was it the 4.13 you were talking about? It went to a PSer --for her 60th birthday--it's going to a good home---she has patiently waited 28 years for an upgrade and it's headed straight to David Klass ;)2
 
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