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LilAlex

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I would ignore that tiny chip; you'll get others to keep it company :) It's not like that is a major factor in the stone's overall appearance.
 

Atwater

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Honestly I would send it back to them to polish out the chip -- they presumably know the stone best and have the most experience with faceting emeralds. For instance if it should not be polished out (due to proximity to the internal inclusions or something like that) then they are most likely to know. They will probably be happy to help -- as regaurdless of whether the chip occured before or after the posted it to you they should stand behind the quality of the products they are selling (including repairing any nicks incurred while it was in their inventory).

Whoops I forgot to say, it is gorgeous congratulations :dance:.
Thanks! I think they would agree if I want to send it back to have it fixed.

I’m guessing you don’t want the hassle and expense of sending a valuable gem back to Colombia to have George polish it out??? Otherwise I agree that they should polish it, However, that being said, the chip is not in a place that a prong will go, and it probably won’t be an issue if you set it. The most important thing is to tell your jeweler, and make sure that he/she is experienced with emeralds. Also tell the jeweler absolutely NO ultrasonic or stream cleaning on the stone whatsoever!!!
No, I don't want the hassle. I am not a perfectionist, and I do not really notice the chip without a loupe. After I decide on a setting and a jeweler, I will let the jeweler know and see if the chip would need to be polished out. Thanks a lot for the reminder.
 

T L

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1FA7E94F-C7C1-439B-B23A-ABEECB61A107.jpeg I caught this in a YouTube video and took a screenshot. This emerald was touted as “top gem quality,” and while the color is probably very good, I spotted something you never want on an expensive emerald, a table fissure. My eyes caught this as it was on a turntable and this is the screen still I captured that really caught and emphasized it. You need excellent vision and/or a loupe to see them, but this is a good example.
 

natasha-cupcake

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Looking for expert opinions on this emerald, for educational purposes only.

https://www.etsy.com/listing/599159235/07-carat-emerald-engagement-ring?ref=user_profile&frs=1

I wouldn't buy this ring because the inclusions are too much for my tastes (the giant criss-crossing looks jarring to me) and I don't like the setting. But I'm wondering about the color of the emerald. To my untrained eye, it looks to have a pretty blue-green hue, in some shots and more green-green in other shots. Where would you place this color along the continua of too light to nice dark saturation and yellow green to "duck neck teal" green? I don't think it's top color, but would love to know how far away from top color it might be. I also don't know if I see anything that resembles the metallic sheen and/or "oil drop" effect that's been discussed previously. I really want to develop an eye for these things, especially in existing pieces. Unfortunately, I can't find real life examples of gorgeous emeralds in B&M stores around here. Most are unimpressive, even in the better jewelry stores, so I'm looking at online pictures to try and learn.

I'm not currently looking to purchase an emerald or emerald piece, but would love to, sometime in the future.
 

whitewave

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You know, I dropped my asscher cut emerald on the freaking CEMENT!! I was so careful o_O but it fell anyway from about hip height to the ground. The outside is not chipped and since it is uncerted (I was planning to send to AGS at a later date), I don’t know if what I see inside was there before or after the drop.

It makes me sick to think about it. I’m getting DH to get some stuff from the safe today so I can re look at it.
 

T L

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Looking for expert opinions on this emerald, for educational purposes only.

https://www.etsy.com/listing/599159235/07-carat-emerald-engagement-ring?ref=user_profile&frs=1

I wouldn't buy this ring because the inclusions are too much for my tastes (the giant criss-crossing looks jarring to me) and I don't like the setting. But I'm wondering about the color of the emerald. To my untrained eye, it looks to have a pretty blue-green hue, in some shots and more green-green in other shots. Where would you place this color along the continua of too light to nice dark saturation and yellow green to "duck neck teal" green? I don't think it's top color, but would love to know how far away from top color it might be. I also don't know if I see anything that resembles the metallic sheen and/or "oil drop" effect that's been discussed previously. I really want to develop an eye for these things, especially in existing pieces. Unfortunately, I can't find real life examples of gorgeous emeralds in B&M stores around here. Most are unimpressive, even in the better jewelry stores, so I'm looking at online pictures to try and learn.

I'm not currently looking to purchase an emerald or emerald piece, but would love to, sometime in the future.
I think that’s a very pretty color, a tad lighter than duck neck green, but beautiful nonetheless. With emeralds, you don’t have to buy trade ideal color in order to have a beautiful gem.

Duck neck green example
https://www.instagram.com/p/BzggasaDQBF/?igshid=1wjoys6wnirq5
 
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T L

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You know, I dropped my asscher cut emerald on the freaking CEMENT!! I was so careful o_O but it fell anyway from about hip height to the ground. The outside is not chipped and since it is uncerted (I was planning to send to AGS at a later date), I don’t know if what I see inside was there before or after the drop.

It makes me sick to think about it. I’m getting DH to get some stuff from the safe today so I can re look at it.
Oh no!!! I’m so sorry this happened to you. I hope the stone hasn’t obtained any fractures, either internal or external.
 

whitewave

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Oh no!!! I’m so sorry this happened to you. I hope the stone hasn’t obtained any fractures, either internal or external.
I mean, really really makes me sick to think about it. That is why I put it away for a while, so I could stop wanting to throw up every time I thought about it.
 

Crazie4Cuts

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You know, I dropped my asscher cut emerald on the freaking CEMENT!! I was so careful o_O but it fell anyway from about hip height to the ground. The outside is not chipped and since it is uncerted (I was planning to send to AGS at a later date), I don’t know if what I see inside was there before or after the drop.

It makes me sick to think about it. I’m getting DH to get some stuff from the safe today so I can re look at it.
Aaauuggggh! Oh no! If you are able to post pictures, please do so. I hope your emerald is ok and you are not sick over this. Perhaps those on the forum can help you see what happened..if you have pictures of when you first purchased it or from the vendor also post those! :cry2:
-C4C
 

natasha-cupcake

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I think that’s a very pretty color, a tad lighter than duck neck green, but beautiful nonetheless. With emeralds, you don’t have to buy trade ideal color in order to have a beautiful gem.

Duck neck green example
https://www.instagram.com/p/BzggasaDQBF/?igshid=1wjoys6wnirq5
Thank you. I thought it was pretty. If I do buy an emerald, it probably won't be top color as I don't think I can afford one in a size reasonable for my chunky fingers, but I want to find something close to ideal color, when I'm ready. Do any of the pictures indicate "sheen" to you? I couldn't clearly identify it, but I thought maybe in the second picture.

You know, I dropped my asscher cut emerald on the freaking CEMENT!! I was so careful o_O but it fell anyway from about hip height to the ground. The outside is not chipped and since it is uncerted (I was planning to send to AGS at a later date), I don’t know if what I see inside was there before or after the drop.

It makes me sick to think about it. I’m getting DH to get some stuff from the safe today so I can re look at it.
My nightmare! I have some smaller gems (3mm hauyne and melee sized demantoids) in gem cases that I've never opened because I'm terrified I'll drop/lose them.
 

whitewave

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Aaauuggggh! Oh no! If you are able to post pictures, please do so. I hope your emerald is ok and you are not sick over this. Perhaps those on the forum can help you see what happened..if you have pictures of when you first purchased it or from the vendor also post those! :cry2:
-C4C
Yes, I’ll do that in a little bit, thanks. I’ll try to get pics under the loupe as well. I’m looking for my misplaced asscher right now :confused2: I’m not having a good week. :(sad
 

Rad_Fan

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I paid a visit to the Kremlin Armoury Museum & the Diamond Fund recently and was super thrilled. At the same time, I kept thinking that I needed to remember as much as possible to share with fellow PSers. It’s kind of difficult since no photos were allowed and I was way too excited with all the visual stimulations, so my brain didn’t work so well:oops2:! I completely skipped the Gold/Silverware & Royal Carriages displays. All pictures of the important emeralds were from Google.

From the Armoury.

Oklad of Icon of Our Lady of Vladimir - It was placed kind of high. Through glass display case, I couldn’t see the two 100 carats Colombian emeralds well but they did look deep green without too much sheen. Looked a bit “flat”, but again, I couldn’t see them well behind big glass case.

Oklad of Icon of Our Lady of Vladimir.jpg

The “smaller” emeralds used on the coronation dresses/robes were more interesting IMHO. Many of them were emerald cuts so they displayed that parallel sheen. It was frustrating that the gems didn’t come with detailed descriptions. The museum simply labeled them as “precious stones” most of the time.

From the Diamond Fund.

I got even more excited when I knew that I got in but now I regret that I didn’t pay for an audio guide:(2. It was a relatively small exhibition. Inside the dark lit corner room, Left from the Grand Imperial Crown, the Scepter, and the Orb case, something green was “calling” me. It was the super included and flat looking 245 ct (?) emerald pendant (Fabergé?). It might not be “trade ideal” but it sure demanded my attention from a dark display case. It was the first thing I saw from that case.

Emerald Pendant, 245 Carats.jpg

Then as I looked to the lower left, I spotted the 136 ct (?) emerald brooch. “MAJESTIC” was the word that came to mind for that green. It showed many surfaced reached fissures on the table under dimmed light, just like those from this RT picture. I wish the brooch was displayed differently to better show the emerald. I suspected that it might show the Gota de Aceite effect.

136ct.jpg

Overall, I think paying 500RUB extra was worth it to see the Diamond Fund even it was a time limited visit.
 
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