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Do you support Trump for president?

Do you support Trump for president?

  • Yes

    Votes: 12 14.0%
  • No

    Votes: 73 84.9%
  • Other, please explain.

    Votes: 1 1.2%

  • Total voters
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Maria D

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AnnaH|1458966240|4011221 said:
I'd say four more Obama years is serious damage. Hillery could be worse than Trump. I'm not entirely sure that there's
much difference. Donald was a liberal democrat until recently. I suspect that Trump may have run as a democrat if he had known what a bad candidate Clinton would make. Too bad he chose to change parties. Too bad for Republicans, that is.

hahaha, that's hilarious. Trump would never have gotten any traction if he had run as a Democrat. Democrats don't have a huge nutty faction that enjoys "protest" candidates. Trump belongs in the Republican party. His platform is everything that Republicans have been espousing for years. He may be crass, but he really is the perfect modern day Republican.
 

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I don't support either candidate, but I'll vote for the most liberal, socialist one I can.

As a couple we pay a lot in taxes. I'm ok with that. I see my hard work as supporting the society I live in rather than being taken from me. I don't have children, but I want my taxes to pay for good education for other people's children. I don't drive, but I believe my taxes should pay for good road networks for those who do. I rarely use the medical system, but want a safe and reliable system who those who require it. I want libraries to stay open, I want a well-trained police force, and I want new parents to have good parental leave to stay home with young babies or discounted nursery care if they either are not able to chose not to do so. Even if I rarely or never use those things, they benefit me as they benefit the society as a whole.

I don't particularly like Hillary, she's just okay, but I don't want a xenophobe who incites hate as the American president. I felt unsettled travelling in Europe right after Bush declared war. The world needs team players. I'm terrible at accents and really don't want to pretend to be from somewhere else for years to avoid that unsettledness again as the free-speaking Trump opens his mouths and pisses off the rest of the world.
 

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Maria D|1459609311|4014580 said:
AnnaH|1458966240|4011221 said:
I'd say four more Obama years is serious damage. Hillery could be worse than Trump. I'm not entirely sure that there's
much difference. Donald was a liberal democrat until recently. I suspect that Trump may have run as a democrat if he had known what a bad candidate Clinton would make. Too bad he chose to change parties. Too bad for Republicans, that is.

hahaha, that's hilarious. Trump would never have gotten any traction if he had run as a Democrat. Democrats don't have a huge nutty faction that enjoys "protest" candidates. Trump belongs in the Republican party. His platform is everything that Republicans have been espousing for years. He may be crass, but he really is the perfect modern day Republican.

Yes, Trump is the inevitable result of the Republican mindset. Whatever else could anyone have thought would happen except just this? Horrifying when it happens, but not surprising in the end.

Maria, you should appreciate this. I guffawed out loud when I read the excerpt I’ve posted below…

http://themoderatevoice.com/the-republican-partys-slow-motion-suicide/

“The true source of the schism is between Republicans who intellectualize conservative impulses and those who do not. The strongest demographic predictor of Republican support for Trump is education, with college-educated Republicans far less likely to support him than those without degrees. He epitomizes low-brow, reality-show values, making himself a kind of one-man cultural wedge.

But there is more to Trump’s high-low divide than that. The conservative movement has succeeded for decades by channeling racial resentment, nationalism, and authoritarianism into traditional policy proposals that can be justified in white papers on foreign policy, welfare, crime, taxes, and so on. Trump has made a mockery of this whole process, substituting boundless faith in his personality for a policy architecture constructed over generations. Conservative intellectuals understand and care about these ideas. They have articulated serious reasons for, say, restricting immigration levels, but Trump grasps the embarrassing reality that most Republican voters are driven by base animus toward immigrants. The rupture he’s opened does not divide one set of ideas from another. Trump has simply pitted the Republican brain against the Republican brain stem.”
 

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"Trump has simply pitted the Republican brain against the Republican brain stem."

Touché.
 

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I am registered unaffiliated as I am not comfortable aligning myself with either of the two major parties. I am financially conservative, though, because I think this country will not be around much longer as a free country with the astronomical amount of debt we have. If I handled my personal finances like the government does, I'd have been bankrupt long ago since I can't keep printing worthless dollars for myself. A government simply cannot spend more than they take in forever without the economy collapsing. There is SO much waste in spending combined with other major problems such as too many of our jobs going overseas. I think we are on a train that is inevitably going to wreck at this point.

Trump doesn't have a chance to beat Hillary. I don't like the top two candidates in either party and something will have to drastically change for me to vote for any of them. I'm surely not holding my breath for a miracle at this point.
 

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Some of you scoff at the idea of a Trump democratic campaign. You conveniently ignore the democrat cross over votes for Trump. That's why Trump does so much better in the open primaries than the closed ones.
The way some here demonized those with different views is shameful. Grow up.
 

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packrat|1459359565|4013186 said:
He'd probably try to find a way to file bankruptcy for the nation and stand around and expect someone to take care of the debt. Then he can start a brand new nation, Trumpopia.


Lol. Hillary is a very energetic liar . I'm still feeling the Bern.
 

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Trump supporters are very happy tonight.
 

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And even happier tonight if the polls are correct.
Happy for now but for how long? That's the million, I mean billion, dollar question.
 

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No! I find it terrifying that he is the presumptive republican nominee
 

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missy|1462360237|4027045 said:
MishB|1462358003|4027042 said:
Apply now and beat the rush.

http://mashable.com/2016/03/03/move-to-canada-trump/#0HGtu.eD2aqK

Plus we'd love to have y'all here Down Undah!


Seriously considering it! New Zealand or British Columbia here we come!
Though I am hoping it isn't necessary because I don't want to leave my family.
Trump cannot get elected right? :errrr:

New Zealand is the only country that is more beautiful than Australia in my opinion. And they don't have deadly animals there :lol:
 

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ha! I lived in Raleigh for 7 looong years.. we subscribed to a newspaper then (News and Observer).. so I am reading the obits (this is 1990) and I read a memorial to someone's great great great etc granddaddy - portrait of some southern guy in a rebel uniform, and then a long soliloquy on the southland and how it will rise again! I was shocked, I was 37 then and a native NYer, I had never seen a memorial etc in any paper for a Union soldier or battle.. We left there as fast we could.. onward to Texas which had it's own idiosyncrasies for sure (Juneteenth, 6 flags, GUNS).. spent 17 years there. Back in New England now and happy as a bug in a rug.

Trump supporters seem to only view the guy from his reality show, he stated again yesterday that his tax plan is GREAT (if you are rich). He does not have the best interest of his very supporters in his rhetoric. The hate of Obama has literally skewed people's views. If Trump becomes President it should be quite a show if he doesn't go haywire and start a war either here or in the middle east or china!.. scary but interesting times.
 

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Lulu, can you tell me exactly what Clinton has lied about that has influenced you? I read this often but I don't find any huge lies but I can EASILY miss things. thank you!
 

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Here is a synopsis of the big lies.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/03/tracking-the-clinton-controversies-from-whitewater-to-benghazi/396182/

But it's truly pathological with her. Stating that she and her husband were "dead broke" when they left the White House. Stating that she came under sniper fire in Bosnia and that all her grandparents were immigrants. Claiming she was named after Sir Edmund Hillary even though she was born before he climbed Everest. The nonsense about writing to NASA as a child because she wanted to become an astronaut( meant to bring home the feminist vote). I would have been in favor of her going to the moon-maybe those missing Rose Law Firm records were up there.

It never ends. And she takes responsibility for nothing.


However, if it's Trump and Hillary I'll vote for her. Trump would bring this country low.
 

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This;

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I don't understand the big focus on Hillary's lying. They all lie! That is part of being a politician. They give lip service to whatever crowd they are speaking to...the stereotype wasn't created for no reason.

The liar schtick is just the "thing" they are going to pin on her. Maybe we should analyze why. Hmm, because if they attack any other thing about her, they will surely fail? Remember, they have very skilled publicists and analysts working for them. These attacks are carefully planned. The only thing they can come up with...she's a liar, just like all of the rest of them.

Trump's list of lies will surely beat Hillary's and he has only been at this for a little more than a year? So let's be real. Trump is the real liar in this race. He didn't really want to be president. He just wanted some publicity and now, well, he is just going run with it because he is a power hungry narcissist.

The biggest lie of all is that he actually wants to be president, that he is qualified to be president, that he has the dignity and the grace to hold our highest office, and that he even CARES beyond his own EGO to know what it means to hold that office and to be responsible for the safety of the entire population of the United States.
 

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lulu|1462470195|4027705 said:
However, if it's Trump and Hillary I'll vote for her.

I do not agree with you on the extent of her lying, although she is not the candidate I wanted. Not by a long shot. (I liked Sanders.) But your posting reminded me of the radio show my daughter and I heard on MSNBC while driving from Connecticut to Virginia yesterday. Ben Howe, a conservative blogger, was interviewed by Andrea Mitchell. He, also, doesn't want Hillary, but will vote for her to keep Trump out. What he had to say about Trump stunned my daughter and me. In fact, I actually laughed at his intemperate language. I will look for a clip of what he said.

AGBF
 

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House Cat|1462542979|4028061 said:
I don't understand the big focus on Hillary's lying. They all lie! That is part of being a politician. They give lip service to whatever crowd they are speaking to...the stereotype wasn't created for no reason.

The liar schtick is just the "thing" they are going to pin on her. Maybe we should analyze why. Hmm, because if they attack any other thing about her, they will surely fail? Remember, they have very skilled publicists and analysts working for them. These attacks are carefully planned. The only thing they can come up with...she's a liar, just like all of the rest of them.
Yes, they all lie! ...but If Clinton loses to Trump in Nov. it will not b/c of her lying, it will be about her Emails, Benghazi and try to push 4 more yrs of Obama's political ideology on Americans.
 

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An interesting observation I saw recently; trump barely leads over Hillary as preferred president, Hillary is barely preferred over Bernie Sanders as the Democrats candidate - yet when it comes to between Bernie Sanders and Trump as preferred president, Sanders kills Trump by a long shot.

Now I don’t know the truth of this as it's not something I am following that closely, but it would seem logical for Hillary to pull out of her campaign right now as Cruz did if they want a democrat for POTUS - yes?
 

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AnnaH|1458946623|4011103 said:
As I predicted, it's acceptable to share negative opinions about Trump but not Hillery. Ha!
While Donald and Hillery share many political views, I was speaking more to personal attributes. Do you really think Hillery's all that?

Hillary is spelled with an A.
 

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IndyLady|1462575526|4028297 said:
AnnaH|1458946623|4011103 said:
As I predicted, it's acceptable to share negative opinions about Trump but not Hillery. Ha!
While Donald and Hillery share many political views, I was speaking more to personal attributes. Do you really think Hillery's all that?

Hillary is spelled with an A.


Hi, IndyLady. I love to see your name appear in a thread. I was hoping for a juicy post. ;))

Deb :wavey:
 

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jordyonbass|1462566748|4028236 said:
An interesting observation I saw recently; trump barely leads over Hillary as preferred president, Hillary is barely preferred over Bernie Sanders as the Democrats candidate - yet when it comes to between Bernie Sanders and Trump as preferred president, Sanders kills Trump by a long shot.

Now I don’t know the truth of this as it's not something I am following that closely, but it would seem logical for Hillary to pull out of her campaign right now as Cruz did if they want a democrat for POTUS - yes?

That person’s analysis is seriously flawed.

Clinton bowing out? No. I don't think so.

Here are the counts for the popular vote in the primaries so far.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/democratic_vote_count.html

Hillary has over 3 million more votes than Sanders. That is not an inconsequential number of votes. She’s not as unpopular compared to Sanders, as your guy’s analysis (wishful thinking?) would lead someone who isn’t checking up on things, to believe. (NOT a criticism of you, why SHOULD you follow our primaries? I wish I didn’t, sometimes)

Bottom line, the Democratic party wants Clinton as the nominee. And all indicators have her crushing Trump in the general. All indicators also point to the Republicans losing the senate, and the current Republican majority of 30 more in the house, being cut in half, to 15.

And this is an indication that Sanders is starting to gently prime his followers for the very real probibility that he will not be the Democratic nominee. While not conceding anything, he is saying what he will do if he does not get the nomination.
http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-live-updates-mid-at-sanders-says-he-will-fight-to-sway-party-platform-1461727401-htmlstory.html
 

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Calliecake|1462503182|4027924 said:
missy|1462360237|4027045 said:
MishB|1462358003|4027042 said:
Apply now and beat the rush.

http://mashable.com/2016/03/03/move-to-canada-trump/#0HGtu.eD2aqK

Plus we'd love to have y'all here Down Undah!


Seriously considering it! New Zealand or British Columbia here we come!
Though I am hoping it isn't necessary because I don't want to leave my family.
Trump cannot get elected right? :errrr:


If Trump gets elected we need to find homes near each other Missy!

Haha Peggy, I'm in!

And I might be wanting to move out of the country even if Hillary Clinton gets elected. I dislike both of them quite a bit and aside from that I worry what will happen when either of them becomes President. :knockout:

Jordy, move over. We might be taking you up on that offer from many months ago. :lol: :cheeky:
 

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ksinger|1462620598|4028518 said:
jordyonbass|1462566748|4028236 said:
An interesting observation I saw recently; trump barely leads over Hillary as preferred president, Hillary is barely preferred over Bernie Sanders as the Democrats candidate - yet when it comes to between Bernie Sanders and Trump as preferred president, Sanders kills Trump by a long shot.

Now I don’t know the truth of this as it's not something I am following that closely, but it would seem logical for Hillary to pull out of her campaign right now as Cruz did if they want a democrat for POTUS - yes?

That person’s analysis is seriously flawed.

Clinton bowing out? No. I don't think so.

Here are the counts for the popular vote in the primaries so far.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/democratic_vote_count.html

Hillary has over 3 million more votes than Sanders. That is not an inconsequential number of votes. She’s not as unpopular compared to Sanders, as your guy’s analysis (wishful thinking?) would lead someone who isn’t checking up on things, to believe. (NOT a criticism of you, why SHOULD you follow our primaries? I wish I didn’t, sometimes)

Bottom line, the Democratic party wants Clinton as the nominee. And all indicators have her crushing Trump in the general. All indicators also point to the Republicans losing the senate, and the current Republican majority of 30 more in the house, being cut in half, to 15.

And this is an indication that Sanders is starting to gently prime his followers for the very real probibility that he will not be the Democratic nominee. While not conceding anything, he is saying what he will do if he does not get the nomination.
http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-live-updates-mid-at-sanders-says-he-will-fight-to-sway-party-platform-1461727401-htmlstory.html

Thanks for that ksinger, it was just an observation I'd heard from somewhere regarding the popularity of candidates. As you pointed out, it's not my country's election campaign so it's not something that I am following that closely.

And Missy, we're happy to take on political refugees from the US :lol:
 

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Hi,

I wonder if Mexico will let the American refugee in their country. Oh, I forgot, they have income requirements if you want to live there, so Mexico wouldn't let us in. Oh, Canada does too. The political refugee from the US will have a hard time being accepted.
And before you look these comments up, I do know Canada has several methods of legally entering their country. But no worries about Mexico, we can sneak over the border.

Annette :angel:
 
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